I would say mostly nature (75%?) as you noted with the (discarded?) comparison with any human and any frog. That is not to say that nurture can not slightly enhance (up to 5% more) or seriously degrade (down to 25% less?) that latent potential of a given human's brain to achieve its potential.
We have too much (political or moral?) bias to be honest about this subject. While we (universally?) accept that genetics play a huge role in other human traits we want to believe that all human brains are created equal. We also (universally?) accept that potential brain development requires training (education) before puberty to be most effective. No matter how carefully we try to treat all students equally the result will be a bell curve in the performance of individual students even when they are taken from the most carefully controlled nurture environment possible.
Who wants to believe that all human brains are created equal? I sure don't. I would define intelligence as the ability to learn. Which is different from what you learn. That's knowledge. Knowledge can be learned, intelligence I don't believe can. Like running a 10 second hundred. Some can do it, some can't.
Thats a bit different since no one can run a 10 second hundred without training and it even if you are born with the possible ability to do so it takes a decade plus of training to do so.
Is Intelligence Mostly Innate or Nurtured?
Now, it is near common knowledge that there is some level of intricate interplay between innate abilities and nurturing. However, which one plays a larger role? Please post your thoughts on the side that you feel is more responsible for various levels of intelligence in the Human population. If you are of the persuasion that it is 50-50, than please come down on either side or both sides of the debate when posting. Also, do you object to the framing of this question?--and rather feel that there is more to be discussed than explored here? Please indicate as such if you deem this to be the case while stating your reasoning.
Note: We are strictly discussing Human intelligence, as the innate differences between a Human and a frog are rather obvious/trivial to reasonably conclude/suppose.
Is Intelligence Mostly Innate or Nurtured?
Now, it is near common knowledge that there is some level of intricate interplay between innate abilities and nurturing. However, which one plays a larger role? Please post your thoughts on the side that you feel is more responsible for various levels of intelligence in the Human population. If you are of the persuasion that it is 50-50, than please come down on either side or both sides of the debate when posting. Also, do you object to the framing of this question?--and rather feel that there is more to be discussed than explored here? Please indicate as such if you deem this to be the case while stating your reasoning.
Note: We are strictly discussing Human intelligence, as the innate differences between a Human and a frog are rather obvious/trivial to reasonably conclude/suppose.
Is Intelligence Mostly Innate or Nurtured?
Now, it is near common knowledge that there is some level of intricate interplay between innate abilities and nurturing. However, which one plays a larger role? Please post your thoughts on the side that you feel is more responsible for various levels of intelligence in the Human population. If you are of the persuasion that it is 50-50, than please come down on either side or both sides of the debate when posting. Also, do you object to the framing of this question?--and rather feel that there is more to be discussed than explored here? Please indicate as such if you deem this to be the case while stating your reasoning.
Note: We are strictly discussing Human intelligence, as the innate differences between a Human and a frog are rather obvious/trivial to reasonably conclude/suppose.
That's my point. Isn't that the same with all human traits? Why is intelligence different?
No matter how hard you try and I train, you will never teach me to run a 10 second hundred. I can however solve math problems in my head.
To recap, I think intelligence is innate. Knowledge is learned.
Is Intelligence Mostly Innate or Nurtured?
Now, it is near common knowledge that there is some level of intricate interplay between innate abilities and nurturing. However, which one plays a larger role? Please post your thoughts on the side that you feel is more responsible for various levels of intelligence in the Human population. If you are of the persuasion that it is 50-50, than please come down on either side or both sides of the debate when posting. Also, do you object to the framing of this question?--and rather feel that there is more to be discussed than explored here? Please indicate as such if you deem this to be the case while stating your reasoning.
Note: We are strictly discussing Human intelligence, as the innate differences between a Human and a frog are rather obvious/trivial to reasonably conclude/suppose.
Because intelligence is the only uniquely human trait.
Some dogs are a lot smarter than others.
Who wants to believe that all human brains are created equal? I sure don't. I would define intelligence as the ability to learn. Which is different from what you learn. That's knowledge. Knowledge can be learned, intelligence I don't believe can. Like running a 10 second hundred. Some can do it, some can't.
but no dog is smart
Mine was.
Of course, dogs lack the sort of abstract reasoning that humans have, but still, some are smarter than others. My brother in law's dogs, for example, are stupid. Every time they see me, they don't recognize me and go off on a barking fit. My sister's dogs, on the other hand, know who I am and act accordingly. My dog could recognize a visitor by smell, even before she saw them, and would display different body language according to who was on the other side of the door.
Yes dogs obliviously have varying degrees of intelligence but even the most intelligent dog is not intelligent by human standards. My point was that intelligence and knowledge despite one being innate and one being learned are still closely linked. Where as other skills the gap between innate and learned is much greater.
A combination of both...a human raised by animals will act like an animal...
Because intelligence is the only uniquely human trait.
A combination of both...a human raised by animals will act like an animal...
Day one --- You walk out to the dog house with a ball bat.....and hit the dog that is chained up.
Day two ---- Same thing.
Day three ---- The dog is going to start growling.
Day four --- The Dog is going to growl and show its teeth.
Day five ---- The Dog is going to strike back.
Environment is intelligence............ and intelligence is environment. As taught in college psychology classes = your environment is learned. And from that you adapt.
Adaption.....is survival. Your actions and reactions are based on your environment ----> Its a psychological fact folks.
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