Is Elizabeth Warren worse than Hillary Clinton?

[Aberration]

Looks more like it was done on the backs of the middle class, who ended up getting ripped off by that 1%.

How were they ripped off? Did they make the investments, did they take the risk? Just because someone else makes more doesnt mean you are entitled to more.


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[Aberration]

So your answer is "be exceptional". That's great for those who are exceptional but for average people who would like a life not rooted in misery it's of no use.

So the average person is not miserable, whats the complaint?


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[calamity]

How were they ripped off? Did they make the investments, did they take the risk? Just because someone else makes more doesnt mean you are entitled to more.


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When the wealth becomes more and more concentrated up at the top, the bottom is getting screwed. Common sense.

 

[calamity]

When a parent of a rich person dies, their number one concern is finding an estate sales agent. When it's one of a poor person, they are scrambling to borrow money for the funeral.

 

[Captain America]

When I see Elizabeth Warren on TV, I see a woman that is simply unhinged. She is always yelling or complaining about something, I really think she is going mad.

IMO Elizabeth Warren is like one of those smug college professors that lives in the world of theory and doesn't understand how real Americans live. I really don't understand how her proposals would be good for America. Doubling the corporate tax rate when the U.S. already has one of the highest CTR's in the world? She wants the IRS to prepare taxes for us, implement a Robin Hood tax for every financial transaction?

Clearly Elizabeth Warren wants to be President but I could see her being even more divisive than Hillary. How on earth would Elizabeth Warren bring bipartisan agreements with such hatred?

Warren is the worst type of liberal. I really hope Democrats start to distance themselves from such a volatile and aggressive person.

And the democrats hope the Republicans will distance themselves from the ass-clown, snake oil salesman of the worst kind, shyster, Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna whistle and go fishing in the river.

 

[TurtleDude]

The Left wants to save people from themselves by handing out free birth control and offerring free abortions, education, shelter, healthcare and food. The Right wants to leave them to fend for themselves. The former leads to enabling poor decisions. The latter leads to more poor because only the rich will then be able to afford the tools which lift people out of poverty.

Both sides are fools. Hence, why I am a centrist. "I ain't no fool."

the biggest sin the right commits is opposing birth control and sex education. I don't think stupid or poor people should be "punished" by pregnancy which is what you are sort of implying (saving themselves from themselves).

 

[TurtleDude]

When the wealth becomes more and more concentrated up at the top, the bottom is getting screwed. Common sense.

that assumes the zero sum gain nonsense that wealth is limited and if one group saves and invests, it steals some of the finite wealth from those who are not industrious or thrifty.

other than redistributive tax schemes which tend to make the redistributionist politicians richer, what is your solution? make investment unable to earn money?

Liberal solutions: there is too much money in the hands of 3-10 million "rich" people so we need to put more money in the hands of a few thousand bureaucrats and politicians.

good thinking there. the place that has way too much money is the government, not the people who actually made the money

 

[calamity]

that assumes the zero sum gain nonsense that wealth is limited and if one group saves and invests, it steals some of the finite wealth from those who are not industrious or thrifty.

other than redistributive tax schemes which tend to make the redistributionist politicians richer, what is your solution? make investment unable to earn money?

Liberal solutions: there is too much money in the hands of 3-10 million "rich" people so we need to put more money in the hands of a few thousand bureaucrats and politicians.

good thinking there. the place that has way too much money is the government, not the people who actually made the money

Well, explain this then.

Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. Thanks, Ronnie.

I know you think this is great. But, I doubt it will be good for the USA unless it changes. Not that you and I should care, given that we are more than half way through our journey on this big blue ball. :lol:

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Who is driving down wages?

Um, employers/owners/anti-union forces, aka "1%" primarily, secondarily, inflation... though that isn't a "who", specifically.

Do you have any real proof or just opinions?

Um, data from the Federal Reserve via BLS/Census isn't "opinion"

Hint: links from Mother Jones and the like don't count as proof.

Again, if you don't recognize a FRED graph, I suggest you shouldn't opine on macro matters.

 

[earthworm]

no vote
no decent choice
They are both good, far from perfect .. The ''perfect" ones are the conservatives .. just ask them ..

 

[TurtleDude]

Well, explain this then.

Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. Thanks, Ronnie.

I know you think this is great. But, I doubt it will be good for the USA unless it changes. Not that you and I should care, given that we are more than half way through our journey on this big blue ball. :lol:

tell us what happens if the rich don't get any richer. do you have even the slightest clue what that means?

 

[calamity]

tell us what happens if the rich don't get any richer. do you have even the slightest clue what that means?

You mean other than the gap between rich and poor getting ever larger? :roll:


They can still get richer, just not as easily and by keeping less of the proceeds.

 

[TurtleDude]

You mean other than the gap between rich and poor getting ever larger? :roll:


They can still get richer, just not as easily and by keeping less of the proceeds.

so you think the way to help people who don't have the skills, the talent, the intelligence or the drive to become successful is to hinder those who do? that's really stupid

 

[calamity]

so you think the way to help people who don't have the skills, the talent, the intelligence or the drive to become successful is to hinder those who do? that's really stupid

I'd rather strip about 90% of someone's inheritance to make sure everyone has to get a base hit before they can get to third. That would level the playing field a bit.

 

[TurtleDude]

I'd rather strip about 90% of someone's inheritance to make sure everyone has to get a base hit before they can get to third. That would level the playing field a bit.

I have no use for parasites. That sort of communism would be the end of this nation as we know it.

 

[calamity]

I have no use for parasites. That sort of communism would be the end of this nation as we know it.

IMO, the parasites are born on third base. The people we need are the ones who know how to work from the batter's box.

 

[Henrin]

IMO, the parasites are born on third base. The people we need are the ones who know how to work from the batter's box.

Yes, because having wealthy parents that want what is best for you is being a parasite. :roll: News flash: Plenty of rich people that inherit money do great things with their life and are hardly parasites. Isn't it strange that someone can get help from anyone in their life and not be a parasite, but as soon as a rich man gives his child money, that child is a parasite. What utter nonsense.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I'd rather strip about 90% of someone's inheritance to make sure everyone has to get a base hit before they can get to third. That would level the playing field a bit.

You would set that "someone" bar very high as to only do so to the "evil rich".

 

[lurchadams]

When I see Elizabeth Warren on TV, I see a woman that is simply unhinged. She is always yelling or complaining about something, I really think she is going mad.

IMO Elizabeth Warren is like one of those smug college professors that lives in the world of theory and doesn't understand how real Americans live. I really don't understand how her proposals would be good for America. Doubling the corporate tax rate when the U.S. already has one of the highest CTR's in the world? She wants the IRS to prepare taxes for us, implement a Robin Hood tax for every financial transaction?

Clearly Elizabeth Warren wants to be President but I could see her being even more divisive than Hillary. How on earth would Elizabeth Warren bring bipartisan agreements with such hatred?

Warren is the worst type of liberal. I really hope Democrats start to distance themselves from such a volatile and aggressive person.

Either one is 100 times better than any Repulikant.

 

[Linc]

IMO, the parasites are born on third base. The people we need are the ones who know how to work from the batter's box.

By the time Putin is done using trump, he'll be the world's first trillionaire .

 

[TurtleDude]

Either one is 100 times better than any Repulikant.

yeah as they say-vote Democrat-it beats working!!:mrgreen:

 

[Linc]

I'd rather strip about 90% of someone's inheritance to make sure everyone has to get a base hit before they can get to third. That would level the playing field a bit.

1950s tax rates built America ,

 

[TurtleDude]

IMO, the parasites are born on third base. The people we need are the ones who know how to work from the batter's box.

your envy is as stupid as it is inaccurate. the problem is-the people who talk about often don't do much of anything productive. You excuse sloth and failure and blame the industrious for the failures of the lazy and those who make poor choices. No one is holding you back. The rich people aren't the ones that keep you from making less than you are worth--its the market

 

[lurchadams]

yeah as they say-vote Democrat-it beats working!!:mrgreen:

I haven't heard that - but I have heard, "vote Republikant, it beats believing in facts and thinking for yourself".

 

[TurtleDude]

You would set that "someone" bar very high as to only do so to the "evil rich".

its envy based crap. boohoo his parents weren't industrious and hard working as someone else's sort of nonsense