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Is creating a party for the middle 80% a good idea, as Elon suggested?

Is creating a party for the middle 80% a good idea, as Elon suggested?

  • Yes. Great idea, but this never works her in the US. We like a democratic and a republican party.

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Question as is. Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

What do you think about this? On the surface it sounds like a no-brainer for a nation that is politically divided as much as it is. But things are probably a little more complicated than that.

Joey
 
I’m been suggesting what I would want to call, “The Common Sense Party”, since Bush opened the second front in Iraq on lies and put it, and Afghanistan, on the credit card.
 
Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

That only leaves 10% at each end, and somebody just 10% from either end is pretty radical.
 
Question as is. Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

What do you think about this? On the surface it sounds like a no-brainer for a nation that is politically divided as much as it is. But things are probably a little more complicated than that.

Joey

I've been calling for a "Centrist" party for over a decade.

But as to Musk's 80%? As long as he can take 5% from the GOP, that's good enough! (y)
 
I am curious as to where musk who is as bad as trump at pulling bullshit numbers out of his arse got middle 80% from.

Fifty-four percent of Americans identify as part of the middle class, including 39% who say they are “middle class” and 15% “upper-middle class.” Another 31% consider themselves “working class” and 12% “lower class.” Just 2% of U.S. adults characterize themselves as “upper class.”
 
What the **** is "the middle"? What principles does this so-called "middle" stand for?

If it means just establishment, neoliberal Democrats and pre-Trump Bush and Romney type Republicans, those people are LITERALLY THE REASON WE HAVE FASCISM IN THE FIRST PLACE
 
Question as is. Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

What do you think about this? On the surface it sounds like a no-brainer for a nation that is politically divided as much as it is. But things are probably a little more complicated than that.

Joey
The Elon Musk Party?
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

And yeah, since Elon is the one suggesting it that IS what it would be, the Elon Musk Party.
No ****ing way in Hell.
 
What accommodates the middle 80%?
Are not most US citizens moderate decent people or seek honest government? So it seems to me - but I'm a long way away.
 
I've been calling for a "Centrist" party for over a decade.

But as to Musk's 80%? As long as he can take 5% from the GOP, that's good enough! (y)

Sorry but I'd like to know what you and other hopefuls think an Elon Musk third party would do for America.
 
Question as is. Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

What do you think about this? On the surface it sounds like a no-brainer for a nation that is politically divided as much as it is. But things are probably a little more complicated than that.

Joey
The 2024 ballot provided me with 6 choices, basically giving me the choice of the Democrat candidate, the Republican candidate, or showing I cannot support the candidate who wins.
Democrat Kamala Harris.
Republican Donald Trump.
Libertarian Chase Oliver.
independent candidate Cornel West.
socialist Claudia de le Cruz.
Green Party’s Jill Stein.
 
Are not most US citizens moderate decent people or seek honest government? So it seems to me - but I'm a long way away.

Who here actually believes Elon is posting about this for totally honest and sincere reasons?
He is proposing THE ELON MUSK PARTY, please bear that in mind, PLEASE.

It amazes me that Americans can watch this guy torch the entire government and then when he smiles and says "third party anyone" they immediately assume he's being altruistic.
Are you ****ing kidding me? 😆
 
The Elon Musk Party?
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

And yeah, since Elon is the one suggesting it that IS what it would be, the Elon Musk Party.
No ****ing way in Hell.
I do not believe you would stick needles in your eyes. I always find asterisks unconvincing.
 
Strangler! Long time!

Musk would siphon-off some GOP votes from Trump/MAGA.

Musk would commit as much as tens of billions to make sure HIS choice wins, don't fool yourself with altruistic assumptions about Elon Musk, or ANYONE who is the richest man on Earth saddled with severe psychological issues. You have got to be kidding me.
 
The Elon Musk Party?
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

And yeah, since Elon is the one suggesting it that IS what it would be, the Elon Musk Party.
No ****ing way in Hell.

Hi,

I should have seen that coming and included this in the answers. My failure. But what if Elon has nothing to do with this, but someone else picks up on the idea and does exactly this?


Joey
 
Hi,

I should have seen that coming and included this in the answers. My failure. But what if Elon has nothing to do with this, but someone else picks up on the idea and does exactly this?


Joey

That's the point.
SOMEONE ELSE, someone who isn't trying to dismantle the entire government, someone who isn't the richest man on Earth with a goosestepping problem.
 
Ah cool.

Elon Musk, the AfD supporting, love giving in a nazi way, white genocide is upon us, guy, is now the leader of the both sides, middle of the road people.

We are entering the far right delusional stage. @Chomsky 's out here shaving imaginary percentage points and that's me being polite.

😅
 
Strangler! Long time!

Musk would siphon-off some GOP votes from Trump/MAGA.
My enemy's enemy is my friend. So I hope Musk has some success.
 
Question as is. Elon Musk has suggested to create a new party that accommodates the middle 80% of the population.

What do you think about this? On the surface it sounds like a no-brainer for a nation that is politically divided as much as it is. But things are probably a little more complicated than that.

Joey
My problem with this is that Elon Musk is in no way part of "the middle." He has not only supported extremism in the US, but also European extremists and parties with roots in Nazism. The further to the right they are, the more likely they are to receive funding from Musk. I think this is just jealousy on Musk’s part. He wants to be Trump so in his world, "the middle 80%" means a party with himself as the leader and 80% of the voters behind him.
 
I would say that the 80% (a figure pulled out of his arse ) would still mostly consist of the same people who, knowingly or not, ultimately demand high spending and low taxes.Or at least want one and don’t care enough about the other.
 
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