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probably not. only a million people have died in a little over six months.
You know others are going to counter with comments like, "each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world, yet we don't stop driving."
I'm afraid, Benjamin Franklin's often overused quote may be meaningful in this case: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
I feel the country should've practiced "some" protective measures against spreading this disease, not this hodge-podge mess. But have we really purchased a significant amount of security to offset the misery and cost of the long term damage done by the shutdown, social distancing, and other measures?
"You know, putting a national lockdown, stay at home orders, is like house arrest. Other than slavery, which was a different kind of restraint, this is the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in American history," Bill Barr said.
Though this is uncomparable to slavery, in any fashion, it is becoming an incredible intrusion on our liberties. The big question is, was this disease deadly enough to warrant the reactions? Many think not and many do.
38,000 people die in the USA per year from vehicle accidents.
200,000+ have died in 7 months from covid19.
Given that at the time we needed to flatten the curve and buy time for hospitals to get ready, then yet. You can't have freedom if you are dead and you have less freedom if you are permanently harmed.
And there's been an estimated 600,000 deaths from influenza since 2010.
I had secondary pneumonia from covid for over a month and I had it for 3 months in 2009 from the swine flu. A lot of people just aren't taking the covid that seriously because it's mostly deadly to a small percentage of the population.
So it all comes down to numbers. The less, no big deal.38,000 people die in the USA per year from vehicle accidents.
200,000+ have died in 7 months from covid19.
I'm afraid, Benjamin Franklin's often overused quote may be meaningful in this case: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
I feel the country should've practiced "some" protective measures against spreading this disease, not this hodge-podge mess. But have we really purchased a significant amount of security to offset the misery and cost of the long term damage done by the shutdown, social distancing, and other measures?
"You know, putting a national lockdown, stay at home orders, is like house arrest. Other than slavery, which was a different kind of restraint, this is the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in American history," Bill Barr said.
Though this is uncomparable to slavery, in any fashion, it is becoming an incredible intrusion on our liberties. The big question is, was this disease deadly enough to warrant the reactions? Many think not and many do.
You know others are going to counter with comments like, "each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world, yet we don't stop driving."
So we've had 33% of that in a single year, or 5 times the annual rate, and this is supposed to be reassuring?
It means that we might be overreacting to a disease that's not as serious as the media hype concludes. Besides, we're close to a curative vaccine, which should end the spread.
It depends.
One has to do a threat assessment.
IMO we have enough information both from here in the USA, and from elsewhere around the world.
So far we know that those at highest risk are the very old (65 and older with increasing risk above 75) and anyone with 2 or more pre-existing serious co-morbidities.
Those at least risk, anyone under the age of 65 with no pre-existing co-morbidities.
We also know, from growing examples as in Sweden, that herd immunity IS a way to combat the spread of this disease.
By this we also know that CASES don't mean that much, because most CASES resolve themselves with no ill effects, while producing antibodies which (via herd immunity) slow and may eventually stop the spread of this disease.
What is the death toll that requires action then? I donβt understand why we must show pragmatism with something we *know* will kill 100βs of 1000βs but for, say, rioting we must secure the homeland? Why is rioting more destructive to property, health, human life than covid?
I just donβt understand hte math on display anytime this subject comes up. Iβll bring up 911 again: why did it matter? Only a few thousand died. Benghazi: 4 assholes. **** them. Big deal.
Which lives mean something to us that we need to take action, and if 100βs of 1000βs isnβt it, why the **** should any parent ever again send a kid off to war for a ****hole nation that disregards its citizens as you would have us do?
The right would have you believe that COVID and the riots are a bunch of crapola, cooked up by the left-wing media, to make Trump look like he ruined the economy, created the protests, and caused the illness-related deaths. Any truth, who knows?
The reaction to 9/11 was total overkill unless they managed to release a bioweapon that killed millions.
5 times the death rate of the swine flu isn't serious? Okay.
Almost ten million people die from cancer every year. It is the cause of every sixth death. It is one of the largest health problems in the world. If we put the resources towards a cure for cancer that we have for covid, there might be no more cancer. Perspective.
How many millions? 1? 2?
It means that we might be overreacting to a disease that's not as serious as the media hype concludes. Besides, we're close to a curative vaccine which should end the spread.
This is ridonculous, quit your posturing and posing.
So what you're saying is, excess deaths don't matter?
So 911 was a big nothingburger?
If the question panics you, then run. *You* added a quantified qualifier on loss of life. This is your concept.
It also means we might be reacting to a disease in the wrong way.
I'll believe a curative vaccine when I see it and it has proven to be effective and not harmful. My fear is that a vaccine will be rushed into use without proving either.
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