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Interview with Black Intern on Zimmerman's Team

ThePlayDrive said:
Racism is defined as the belief that one race is inferior to another, particularly when that inferiority is seen as innate. Please explain how blacks tweeting that she doesn't belong there are claiming that one race is inferior to another.
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Many blacks, such as the ones in Maggie's example, are more likely to judge people based on the color of their skin. They are more likely to bring race up as an issue and to frame issues in racial terms.

Now whether you want to call that "racism" is a matter of semantics. It is what it is - inappropriate, divisive profiling.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
No, racism is a word that has a meaning. Racism isn't just anything involving race that you don't like. There are other words and phrases like prejudice, racial insensitivity and racial ignorance among others to cover those things. In sum, what you said did not indicate racism. Instead of being so intellectually lazy and using racism as a "catchall" term for anything you don't like that involves race, do a little critical thinking and try to find the appropriate word or phrase that describes what you see.
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And you are using the sociology description of racism....... which isn't how the term "racist" is used in today's society.

Its pathetic that anytime black racism is pointed out someone has to try to refer to the obscure sociology definition of racism that is NEVER applied to a white person who is a racist.....
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Are we still describing black people on Twitter or have we moved on to you now?
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Really? Trying to make it personal I see...... This post was just absolutely not necessary.

Sounds like someone is butt hurt.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Well, the issue in this thread is that many black people view the Zimmerman case as a symbol of society's acceptance of racial profiling and the deadly consequences such profiling can have for their sons, brothers, nephews and so on. Therefore, when some black people see a black woman working for the man who they believe unjustly murdered a black boy based on racial profiling, they see a woman who is actively working to defend someone who would kill those sons, brothers and nephews if he encountered them on another rain night after being acquitted. Therefore, they criticize her for participating in what they perceive as a defense of ideas that hurt and even kill black people.

That, to me, is not a case of people being bigoted or prejudiced or racialist or racist. I would say that the people making the comments are race conscious. I don't, however, consider race consciousness a bad thing even though I also don't consider their condemnation of the intern a good thing.
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Can't say boy...

That is clearly racist...
 
How many more you want?

Tell me again about the "DEFINITION" of racist??????

Take the feigned bovine fecal material about the definition of "racist" out of here please.

Take it up with the liberals in this nation.
 
Thinking about the dictionary definition of racism, which is the belief that one race is inhernetly superior or inferior, outside of some backwoods KKK idiots and the most militant black nationalist types, would anyone today match that definition? Even the most bigoted people would probably balk at a notion of racial inferiority or superiority. I just have trouble picturing any person saying that sort of thing, outside of the most radical wing nut extremists who marginalize themselves the minute they open their mouths.
 
Psychoclown said:
Thinking about the dictionary definition of racism, which is the belief that one race is inhernetly superior or inferior, outside of some backwoods KKK idiots and the most militant black nationalist types, would anyone today match that definition? Even the most bigoted people would probably balk at a notion of racial inferiority or superiority. I just have trouble picturing any person saying that sort of thing, outside of the most radical wing nut extremists who marginalize themselves the minute they open their mouths.
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The mere act of being white and bigoted instantly means you believe yourself to be superior.... if not only because whites two hundred years before your lifetime enacted laws that implied as much.

According to the "Sociologists"
 
Psychoclown said:
Thinking about the dictionary definition of racism, which is the belief that one race is inhernetly superior or inferior, outside of some backwoods KKK idiots and the most militant black nationalist types, would anyone today match that definition? Even the most bigoted people would probably balk at a notion of racial inferiority or superiority. I just have trouble picturing any person saying that sort of thing, outside of the most radical wing nut extremists who marginalize themselves the minute they open their mouths.
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Yeah, that would've been the definition back in the 60s in some parts of the country. Not so much now.
 
MaggieD said:
Here's what I know. If the defendant was black, there'd be no tweets asking why a white intern was working on the case. The media and black so-called spokespeople have done a bang-up job of making this into a racial issue. And it clearly shows me who the racists are.
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Are you saying the "media and black so-called" spokespeople are MAKING this a racial issue? That it would no be a racial issue without the hype?
 
opendebate said:
Are you saying the "media and black so-called" spokespeople are MAKING this a racial issue? That it would no be a racial issue without the hype?
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Ding ding!
 
opendebate said:
Are you saying the "media and black so-called" spokespeople are MAKING this a racial issue? That it would no be a racial issue without the hype?
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I can't answer for MaggieD, but yes, I am saying that.....
 
Psychoclown said:
Thinking about the dictionary definition of racism, which is the belief that one race is inhernetly superior or inferior, outside of some backwoods KKK idiots and the most militant black nationalist types, would anyone today match that definition? Even the most bigoted people would probably balk at a notion of racial inferiority or superiority. I just have trouble picturing any person saying that sort of thing, outside of the most radical wing nut extremists who marginalize themselves the minute they open their mouths.
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Do you consider any of the above folks I reference "radical wing nut extremists"??? Morgan Freeman?? Jimmy Carter?? Bill Cosby?? A woman posting a picture of a shoe shine??
 
Oceandan said:
Do you consider any of the above folks I reference "radical wing nut extremists"??? Morgan Freeman?? Jimmy Carter?? Bill Cosby?? A woman posting a picture of a shoe shine??
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Always had my doubts about that Jimmy Carter fella. Talked funny and grew peanuts.
 
Oceandan said:
Do you consider any of the above folks I reference "radical wing nut extremists"??? Morgan Freeman?? Jimmy Carter?? Bill Cosby?? A woman posting a picture of a shoe shine??
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I didn't read the articles you linked, so I can't comment on them and frankly I'm not terribly interested in reading them because I just don't care what Freeman, Carter, or Cosby have to say. Freeman and Cosby are entertainers and therefor I value their political opinion about as much as I do any other random person's. Carter is someone who, while I admire the chairty work he has done with Habbitat for Humanity, I don't care for him politically and haven't found much of what he has said over the years in terms of politcs to be particularly interesting, insightful, or valuable.

I'm not sure how anything they said relates to the post I made that you quoted about the traditional dictionary definition of racism.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
They aren't being used by "all sides." Your "new" definitions are being used primarily by white, racially ignorant people who lean conservative. Other "new" definitions are being used primarily by multiracial, racially aware people who lean liberal. Both sets of separate "new" definitions are misuses of the term of racism. Both sets are just definitions that people have made up so that they can call people racists who aren't racists. That's the problem. You are all misusing the word in self-serving manners.
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Yeah, they are. They may not use the same exact words but when you boil it all down that is exactly what they are saying or perhaps to be more precise, saying AND acting.

ThePlayDrive said:
Have you been diagnosed with some sort of memory issue revolving around physical traits because, if not, what you're claiming is ridiculous.
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Why is it ridiculous? Is it really that hard to believe that someone can actually look beyond the physical to the point where they don't care enough to remember skin color?

Let me tell you about a little thing that happened to me in high school.

There was this girl that I liked, asked her to go out with me to the prom. I was in 9th grade at the time. I thought she was cute. She however thought I was stupid and not worth her time. Admittedly that was due in part to my attitude at the time...which we won't get into at this time. Not long afterwards we had an assignment by our history teacher which split the class up into groups of 3. It was to be a debate about the Civil War. One person was to argue for the Civil War, another against it and the third person was suppose to weigh the two arguements and decide which arguement was more valid. Both that girl and me were put in the same group. I was to argue for the Civil War and she was to argue against it. On the day that we were to make our arguements I got to go first. By the time I was done she was so speechless that she could not put forth her arguement...at all. The "judge" declared my arguement the best obviously.

Do you want to know what we both got out of that exchange? Both of us learned the same thing that day.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

I have since lived by that eddict. So much so that not noticing a persons skin color enough to remember is virtually inherent. I truely do not care about a persons skin color. Only thier actions and words spoken.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I have since lived by that eddict. So much so that not noticing a persons skin color enough to remember is virtually inherent. I truely do not care about a persons skin color. Only thier actions and words spoken.
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You will NEVER convince some people that this is true.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Sadly you are correct. But it doesn't hurt to try, right?
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According to some people, whites can say, "But but BUT I have a lot of black friends!" They're condescending!! They're lying. They can say they don't judge people by their color. They're lying. They can say color doesn't make any difference to them. They're lying.

Lying. Lying. Lying.

If you're racist, and you know it clap your hands. "Why the hell aren't YOU clapping?? You're white."
 
I just heard Judge Ferrer say something I hadn't really thought out yet. Last year the country was saying "Zimmerman is a racist! Zimmerman was just after black kids! Zimmerman called Trayvon a racist term!" Fast forward a year or so and we find out that there was a racist comment said that night............ but it wasn't from Zimmerman's mouth.

Stop letting the media and politicians manipulate you, people.
 
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