Incentives to get vaccinated.

[SNOWFLAKE]

THEY don't like being shamed or ridiculed for not getting vaccinated.

YET - THEY would gladly do so when incentives are provided. Over the last year there have been stories about private businesses offering everything from free beer to free dinners for those who get vaccinated and are able to show a vaccination card.

I remember one state held a lottery with a cash reward for the winner of the lottery but only vaccinated people could join the lottery.

SO WHY NOT?

In fact make it big, every person who isn't already vaccinated gets a $1000 cheque once verified they have been fully vaccinated?

OR the counter argument: would a reward make people get vaccinated only for the reward and not otherwise?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Nope, giving those who got vaccinated late a reward is as stupid as rewarding those that did not repay their student loan debt on schedule. If the government has excess funds then use them to improve infrastructure.

 

[X Factor]

I feel it just too dangerous for me to leave the house and I’m waiting for my absentee vaccine by mail.

 

[Helix]

I'm for requiring vaccination to work on site, travel, and to attend events.

 

[DataPoint]

A Baptist pastor told me that leaving the faith will not cure Covid.

My QAnon family member asked, "What is he hiding?"

 

[Loulit01]

A Baptist pastor told me that leaving the faith will not cure Covid.

My QAnon family member asked, "What is he hiding?"

Dunno. But I'd be hiding QAnon family members.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I don't think incentives will do it. Ohio had a program called Vax-a-million which could net you a cool million and it barely moved the numbers.

Personally, I think insurance companies should just stop covering COVID unless the person is vaccinated. We had a debate about ten years ago about pre-existing conditions, but I think there is a huge difference between something someone cannot help and something someone can easily fix.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I feel it just too dangerous for me to leave the house and I’m waiting for my absentee vaccine by mail.

If you aren't vaccinated, you need to quit letting your personal politics dictate your medical decisions and get yourself vaccinated. I may not agree with you politically on much, but it's a shame for anyone to get seriously ill or worse when it is entirely preventable with a free, safe, and very effective vaccine.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I think people that aren't vaccinated will have plenty of incentives as insurers start pricing in the additional risk they are too them since they are unvaccinated and employers require you do be vaccinated to work for them (many employers are self insured and thus have strong financial incentive that their employees are vaccinated). Basically, the free market is already starting to penalize their ignorant healthcare choices and will continue to do so.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I don't think incentives will do it. Ohio had a program called Vax-a-million which could net you a cool million and it barely moved the numbers.

Personally, I think insurance companies should just stop covering COVID unless the person is vaccinated. We had a debate about ten years ago about pre-existing conditions, but I think there is a huge difference between something someone cannot help and something someone can easily fix.

Should unapologetic homosexuals get denied coverage for AIDS?

I would be down with this if sodomites were turned away for AIDS

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I think people that aren't vaccinated will have plenty of incentives as insurers start pricing in the additional risk they are too them since they are unvaccinated and employers require you do be vaccinated to work for them (many employers are self insured and thus have strong financial incentive that their employees are vaccinated). Basically, the free market is already starting to penalize their ignorant healthcare choices and will continue to do so.

If 25 percent totally refuse and there’s a labor shortage then it will cost more money to mandate vaccines then the marginal cost of Covid which is largely harmless sniffles

 

[Loulit01]

Should unapologetic homosexuals get denied coverage for AIDS?

I would be down with this if sodomites were turned away for AIDS

So, what's the weather like in 1981? Nice day, is it?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

So, what's the weather like in 1981? Nice day, is it?

Unprotected sodomy is the number 1 vector of aids. Sorry this is so offensive to you.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Should unapologetic homosexuals get denied coverage for AIDS?

I would be down with this if sodomites were turned away for AIDS

They would be eligible for AIDs coverage...

 

[Loulit01]

Unprotected sodomy is the number 1 vector of aids. Sorry this is so offensive to you.

Source?

 

[X Factor]

If you aren't vaccinated, you need to quit letting your personal politics dictate your medical decisions and get yourself vaccinated. I may not agree with you politically on much, but it's a shame for anyone to get seriously ill or worse when it is entirely preventable with a free, safe, and very effective vaccine.

I appreciate the concern. I mean that sincerely.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

If 25 percent totally refuse and there’s a labor shortage then it will cost more money to mandate vaccines then the marginal cost of Covid which is largely harmless sniffles

I like to have smart people with good critical thinking skills working with me. If a candidate told me they were unvaccinated, that would result in a no vote from me in regards to hiring them because it would tell me that their objectivity and critical thinking skills were poor.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Bribery would be no more effective than the current methodology of demonization, shaming, and humiliation

 

[Logophile]

Ah the irony. Give it about 6 months. The vaccinated are the idiots giving it to each other and their own kids and having the effin gall to try to make the entire country zombie land by blaming it on people that at least KNOW they need to stay isolated because they're not feeling great. The vaccinated here - running around with no masks and a vaccine that has essentially no appreciative longevity - are the real culprits. And worse are not the intellectual superiors they claim to be. Far from it. Thanks!!

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Bribery would be no more effective than the current methodology of demonization, shaming, and humiliation

Well, if THAT is true, then we might as well step it up when it comes demonization, shaming, and humiliation.

 

[seymourflops]

THEY don't like being shamed or ridiculed for not getting vaccinated.

YET - THEY would gladly do so when incentives are provided. Over the last year there have been stories about private businesses offering everything from free beer to free dinners for those who get vaccinated and are able to show a vaccination card.

I remember one state held a lottery with a cash reward for the winner of the lottery but only vaccinated people could join the lottery.

SO WHY NOT?

In fact make it big, every person who isn't already vaccinated gets a $1000 cheque once verified they have been fully vaccinated?

OR the counter argument: would a reward make people get vaccinated only for the reward and not otherwise?

To answer the last: So what if it did?

Does an employer stop sending out checks because they make people work only to get paid?

I don't think it would need to be that big. I'm guessing that there are plenty of people on the fence. When I was thinking about getting vaxxed, it was because - at the time - we were told that if we were fully vaccinated, we could go maskless in many places. Indeed, many places had signs saying that fully vaccinated people need not wear masks. I was on the fence and the deciding factor was that I needed to go to the doctor anyway and so did Mrs. Flops. We had been talking about it and I said, "Eh, as long as we're there anyway, why not?" She agreed. Point is that just a slight nudge may do it for many people.

Each state could do a cost/benefit analysis to find out approximately how much each unvaccinated person costs in terms of lost tax revenue, etc. Then offer some fraction of that to each individual willing to take the vaccine.

It's a sure money saver.

 

[Phys251]

THEY don't like being shamed or ridiculed for not getting vaccinated.

YET - THEY would gladly do so when incentives are provided. Over the last year there have been stories about private businesses offering everything from free beer to free dinners for those who get vaccinated and are able to show a vaccination card.

I remember one state held a lottery with a cash reward for the winner of the lottery but only vaccinated people could join the lottery.

SO WHY NOT?

In fact make it big, every person who isn't already vaccinated gets a $1000 cheque once verified they have been fully vaccinated?

OR the counter argument: would a reward make people get vaccinated only for the reward and not otherwise?

Positive incentives (if you get the vaccine, we'll give you something good) seem gimmicky. Like giving your kid a cookie just because they did their homework.

Negative incentives (if you don't get the vaccine, you can't go to concerts/restaurants/etc.) are more sensible.

 

[screenwriter]

I don't think incentives will do it. Ohio had a program called Vax-a-million which could net you a cool million and it barely moved the numbers.

Personally, I think insurance companies should just stop covering COVID unless the person is vaccinated. We had a debate about ten years ago about pre-existing conditions, but I think there is a huge difference between something someone cannot help and something someone can easily fix.

Fine deny coverage - then you'd have to also allow insurance companies to deny or reduce percentage of coverage for obesity - for STDs (casual sex) - for drugs - smoking - drinking- reckless driving - etc etc etc. Any of the behavior driven ailments that currently clog up America's healthcare system. Deal?

 

[seymourflops]

Positive incentives (if you get the vaccine, we'll give you something good) seem gimmicky. Like giving your kid a cookie just because they did their homework.

Negative incentives (if you don't get the vaccine, you can't go to concerts/restaurants/etc.) are more sensible.

Is this your approach to solving the crime problem also?

 

[ttwtt78640]

I don't think incentives will do it. Ohio had a program called Vax-a-million which could net you a cool million and it barely moved the numbers.

Personally, I think insurance companies should just stop covering COVID unless the person is vaccinated. We had a debate about ten years ago about pre-existing conditions, but I think there is a huge difference between something someone cannot help and something someone can easily fix.

Yep, yet PPACA decided to allow age to be kept as a pre-existing condition (aka actuarial risk factor) to boost premium rates up to 300%.