In the United States, the homeless are classified as subhuman

[Superfly]

Sure. A trained Marine puts skinny black guy in choke hold for extended period of time. While others are watching and telling the Marine "you're going to kill him".

And you think he wasn't trying to hurt him. Let's just pray the jury doesn't see it your way.

Trained Marine = trained to kill.

 

[Simpletruther]

And again:

Violence Against People Who Are Homeless: The Hidden Epidemic | Benioff Homelessness and Housing Initiative

Recently, a spate of assaults and murders have highlighted how people without housing are vulnerable to violence. Margot Kushel, MD, Director of BHHI, sheds light on the longstanding crisis of violence against people who are homeless.

homelessness.ucsf.edu

"
Violence against people experiencing homelessness is not new. Ample research shows just how often they are victimized. A 2003 study of homeless adults in San Francisco found that one-third of cis- women, one-quarter of cis-men, and almost 40% of transgender participants experienced physical or sexual assault in the prior year. These numbers are far higher than lifetime estimates for the general population. People with mental health problems are also much more likely to be victims of violence. In addition, a study of homeless women found that 48% had experienced physical violence without a weapon, 18% with a weapon, and 18% had experienced sexual violence within the past six months. In an ongoing study of homeless older adults, we found that almost 12% had experienced physical or sexual assault in the prior six months. Yet violence is not inevitable. The study followed participants for years and found that the violence continued; however, when people became housed, their risk of being attacked dropped by half.

Despite such violence, instead of focusing on safety for our unhoused neighbors, the misperception that people without homes are perpetrators, rather than victims, of violence contributes to both criminalizing homelessness and dehumanizing people without housing. Exaggerated attention on rare violent incidents that individuals experiencing homelessness commit (and emphasizing their housing status) leads to policies supporting criminalization of survival behaviors—like sleeping, sitting, and living in vehicles—while doing nothing to improve safety. Criminalization diverts resources, worsens impoverishment, increases incarceration, and poses barriers to exiting homelessness. It also makes it harder for individuals without homes to report threats or protect themselves. Fear of people who are homeless, rather than compassion on their behalf, contributes to dehumanization—seeing them as less than and not deserving of our protection, care, or equitable policies. These fears, in turn, contribute to violence against people without homes—rates that appear to be rising—and lessen political will toward lasting solutions. Finally, the false perception of people who are homeless as perpetrators contributes to challenges in siting shelters and housing to meet their needs."

You are confused. I never once denied they victims of crimes. And even more so than the general population.

That doesn't mean they do not also commit more crime than the general population. Which they undoubtedly do.

 

[Simpletruther]

We need cheap labor in America and the 13th Amendment doesn't include incarceration so we need to arrest the homeless and put them in work-rehabilitation programs. This will give them homes, healthcare, and employment, and help clean up our cities. win/win

I disagree,but is better than the current liberal solutions.

 

[Superfly]

These mother****ers don’t even want to help veterans off the streets. They sure as hell aren’t going to help anyone else.

**** ‘em.

House Republicans Reject Housing Support for Homeless Veterans

Kaptur Amendment would have provided rental support for almost half of the nation’s 49,900 homeless veterans

kaptur.house.gov

 

[Superfly]

We need cheap labor in America and the 13th Amendment doesn't include incarceration so we need to arrest the homeless and put them in work-rehabilitation programs. This will give them homes, healthcare, and employment, and help clean up our cities. win/win

Arrest them for what? Being poor?

 

[IQ57]

I think the non-homeless are stupid if they let their communities be destroyed by poverty.

I agree. Gavin Newsom and the laws and lies are destroying the community for the non-homeless people. Why do you blame them? Why not blame the one’s not changing or enforcing the laws?

Pure stupidity.

I guess crazy people side with the crazy homeless. Makes sense.

 

[Seth]

Arrest them for what? Being poor?

Vagrancy

 

[Lovebug]

You are correct, but there was no celebration of the offenders by anyone. That is the problem and also what was adressed:

the homeless are classified as subhuman: Daniel Penny is already called a "good samaritan". (and 24 million richer...​

It is so sad.

I recall some of the disgusting posts justifying Mr Neele's death. Please know that more of us condemned what happened and were appalled by what was said, both here and by some grandstanding politicians. Don't judge us by the heartless among us.

 

[Superfly]

Vagrancy

Don’t church it up. You are criminalizing someone for being poor.

 

[IQ57]

These mother****ers don’t even want to help veterans off the streets. They sure as hell aren’t going to help anyone else.

**** ‘em.

House Republicans Reject Housing Support for Homeless Veterans

Kaptur Amendment would have provided rental support for almost half of the nation’s 49,900 homeless veterans

kaptur.house.gov

They can’t even help themselves.

People the victimize others by claiming a victim mentality are the ones to blame.

When you say those words you are pretty much saying them to yourself without realizing it.

 

[IQ57]

Arrest them for what? Being poor?

For breaking laws. I thought even children were smart enough to understand something so basic.

 

[Lovebug]

I agree. Gavin Newsom and the laws and lies are destroying the community for the non-homeless people. Why do you blame them? Why not blame the one’s not changing or enforcing the laws?

Pure stupidity.

I guess crazy people side with the crazy homeless. Makes sense.

Solution?

 

[IQ57]

Don’t church it up. You are criminalizing someone for being poor.

Your deflecting from reality by victimizing those through a victims mentality.

You should be helping. You sure do preach it up. Grab a bucket and a mop and give out some hugs.

 

[IQ57]

Solution?

Enforce the laws.

Get rid of the drugs.

Clean up the neighborhoods.

 

[Lovebug]

Enforce the laws.

What laws specifically?

Get rid of the drugs.

Are they all using?

Clean up the neighborhoods.

And put them where?

 

[PLizzy]

For breaking laws. I thought even children were smart enough to understand something so basic.

Enforce the laws.

Get rid of the drugs.

Clean up the neighborhoods.

Good luck with that shit.

We've thrown ungodly amounts of money at policing and anti-drug enforcement. Guess what? It's been a miserable failure since the 70's. No matter how many cops we add, what weapons we give them, how hard we stack the courts with deranged Republican judges, and no matter how much money we spend, drugs and crime win out. We've been trying it your way for 50 years.

BTW, All those tactics like stop and frisk and other means that cops use to harass drug users and homeless people, typically break other laws in regard to people civil liberties, which I thought Republicans cared about sooooo much.

 

[Superfly]

They can’t even help themselves.

People the victimize others by claiming a victim mentality are the ones to blame.

When you say those words you are pretty much saying them to yourself without realizing it.

No. I’m not a shitbag Republican who repeatedly votes to send soldiers into wars we shouldn’t be in, then consistently refuses to help them once they come home.

That’s on you.

 

[JRTurner]

You are confused. I never once denied they victims of crimes. And even more so than the general population.

That doesn't mean they do not also commit more crime than the general population. Which they undoubtedly do.

Why then, aren't you outraged that they are targeted for these crimes at far greater risk to them then anything they do?

 

[JRTurner]

I disagree,but is better than the current liberal solutions.

Slavery is better than any idea that comes from a liberal? WHAT???

 

[JRTurner]

I agree. Gavin Newsom and the laws and lies are destroying the community for the non-homeless people. Why do you blame them? Why not blame the one’s not changing or enforcing the laws?

Pure stupidity.

I guess crazy people side with the crazy homeless. Makes sense.

I blame NIMBYs. Why not blame the ones responsible for poverty in their community?

 

[JRTurner]

Vagrancy

That's a ticket.

Blood from a stone.

 

[Simpletruther]

Why then, aren't you outraged that they are targeted for these crime

at far greater risk to them then anything they do?

I am outraged at all crime. Never implied otherwise.

 

[JRTurner]

I am outraged at all crime. Never implied otherwise.

Then protect the homeless--don't declare them worse than the people victimizing them.

 

[Simpletruther]

Then protect the homeless--don't declare them worse than the people victimizing them.

I never made that claim sorry.

 

[JRTurner]

I never made that claim sorry.

yes, you did.

Every time you state they commit more crimes than other people.

Now you say they are victims of crime more than other people.

If that's what you believe, then you must champion the protection of those who are most victimized, correct?