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In the matter of shut downs, look what we see.

Fishking said:
Dead is dead, no matter which way you slice it. More die from obesity that is an ongoing and systemic problem and we aren't shutting the entire country down over it.
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That is because shutting down the country isn't going to stop people from overeating. That is a problem within the individual, not something that can be prevented by closing anything but that individuals mouth from time to time.

On the other hand, this virus has shown that treated properly, it can be slowed down when people treat it like the COMMUNICABLE EPIDEMIC that it is.

When obesity becomes communicable, get back to me.
 
Fishking said:
Why do you want people to die? You're heartless.
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Says the guy who is apparently opposed to taking proper precautions to try to limit the deaths you are crying about.

We saw what happened over the summer in TX and FL when they just decided to open back up....shit got out of control.....and that was when the temperatures were HELPING keep the virus under control. If you think just acting like it doesn't exist is gonna go well this winter, you are simply not paying attention to the facts of the situation.
 
Logical1 said:
Because of the china virus there are city shut downs all over the country. But look at what we see. The most abusive shut downs have been dictated by big city democrat mayors. I watch the news very close, even watch a half hour of the MSM, and have yet to hear of a republican mayor dictating shut downs as abusive as big city democrat mayors.

The abusive shut downs by democrats follow some insane wanting to have total control over the lives of ordinary citizens. It must be some kind of mental disease that infects liberals.
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Two things: Georgia. Must keep the fear of voting in person fresh in the minds of the GA voters. Second, Dem elected officials want to curry favor with the future administration and help erode rights and liberties. You know, prime the pump for Biden and the progressives.
 
Fishking said:
We have 300K die every year from obesity. Should we shut down food?
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Overeating doesn't spread though the air by nitwits or have the potential to kill someone innocent in a matter of weeks. We need to shut down nitwits.
 
Logical1 said:
How many businesses have gone broke because the old crone Pelosi didnt want to pass a clean stimulus bill while Trump was president.
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Didn't answer my question did you? Because you know there's no good answer. Checked!
 
Logical1 said:
Because of the china virus there are city shut downs all over the country. But look at what we see. The most abusive shut downs have been dictated by big city democrat mayors. I watch the news very close, even watch a half hour of the MSM, and have yet to hear of a republican mayor dictating shut downs as abusive as big city democrat mayors.

The abusive shut downs by democrats follow some insane wanting to have total control over the lives of ordinary citizens. It must be some kind of mental disease that infects liberals.
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Or maybe it’s because the democratic mayors aren’t morons but the Republican ones are.
 
element94 said:
Overeating doesn't spread though the air by nitwits or have the potential to kill someone innocent in a matter of weeks. We need to shut down nitwits.
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Dead is dead. Why don't you care about the hundreds of thousands that die every year? Are you heartless?
 
Fishking said:
I do...let's shut everything down and have forced intermittent famine. It's for the good of the people!
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In place of mass death because of morons who don't have any self control? I'm all for it.
 
element94 said:
In place of mass death because of morons who don't have any self control? I'm all for it.
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Also remove the choice of people to smoke or do drugs. Anyone doing them should be held accountable with strong government action.
 
How about we get back to the main point of this thread, dictatorial abusive democrat mayors.
 
Fishking said:
Why do you want so many people dead? That's terrible.
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I rather no died before reaching a nice old age but if someone wants to eat himself to death it isn’t my place to stop him.

On the other hand your actions could get me killed. That’s a completely different thing.
 
Fishking said:
Also remove the choice of people to smoke or do drugs. Anyone doing them should be held accountable with strong government action.
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It’s so annoying when people dip into the absurd to “win” an argument. Im sure you know the difference between freedom to make poor life decisions and lock downs to stop the exponential spread of a virus...or I hope you d.
 
Gaius46 said:
I rather no died before reaching a nice old age but if someone wants to eat himself to death it isn’t my place to stop him.

On the other hand your actions could get me killed. That’s a completely different thing.
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You can lock yourself in your basement forever, just to be sure you're safe.
 
Logical1 said:
Because of the china virus there are city shut downs all over the country. But look at what we see. The most abusive shut downs have been dictated by big city democrat mayors. I watch the news very close, even watch a half hour of the MSM, and have yet to hear of a republican mayor dictating shut downs as abusive as big city democrat mayors.

The abusive shut downs by democrats follow some insane wanting to have total control over the lives of ordinary citizens. It must be some kind of mental disease that infects liberals.
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Mayors can't do much without the governors approval.

Because of the Trump Virus a lot of states have shut down businesses, mandated masks and curfews....including republican states like Kentucky and Ohio.

www.nytimes.com

See Reopening Plans and Mask Mandates for All 50 States (Published 2021)

Much of the country has fully reopened after a year defined by patchwork coronavirus restrictions.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com


Last spring, 19 republican governors shut down their states....because of the Trump Virus.....

ballotpedia.org

States that issued lockdown and stay-at-home orders in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, 2020

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics
ballotpedia.org ballotpedia.org
 
Fishking said:
You can lock yourself in your basement forever, just to be sure you're safe.
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I might be able to but can a doctor? A cop? A delivery man? A grocery store worker.

That’s as silly as it is completely unworkable.
 
iliveonramen said:
It’s so annoying when people dip into the absurd to “win” an argument. Im sure you know the difference between freedom to make poor life decisions and lock downs to stop the exponential spread of a virus...or I hope you d.
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Yes...I understand the absurdity of destroying an entire economy for questionable gains. We're seeing large increases in suicides, mental health issues, malnutrition, domestic violence, ect. All for stopping a virus that has less than 1% mortality rate and that is very low among younger and healthier people. Locking everyone and everything down instead of taking a nuanced approach is nonsensical.
 
Fishking said:
Yes...I understand the absurdity of destroying an entire economy for questionable gains. We're seeing large increases in suicides, mental health issues, malnutrition, domestic violence, ect. All for stopping a virus that has less than 1% mortality rate and that is very low among younger and healthier people. Locking everyone and everything down instead of taking a nuanced approach is nonsensical.
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The 1% fatality rate assumes there are the needed resources both ICU beds and staff to handle severe cases. So, what is the fatality rate when hospitals have to say “no mas”? What happens to a heart attack victim when there are no beds or staff to handle him? That is the fear...and that’s what lockdowns are trying to prevent.
 
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