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Implementing DADT Repeal

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Well, now that DADT repeal has passed, what needs to be done to implement the repeal? What changes need to happen to make the change as smooth and trouble free as possible? How should the inevitable problems that do occur be handled? What policies need to be redone?

Let's try and keep it to reasonable stuff, not things that will never happen.
 
Honestly, I feel like you go to the commanders and say, "Listen some of you may not personally agree with this, but it is going to happen. How do you suggest as military commanders, not civilians, we go about making these changes as quickly, effortlessly, and painless as possible."
 
soccerboy22 said:
Honestly, I feel like you go to the commanders and say, "Listen some of you may not personally agree with this, but it is going to happen. How do you suggest as military commanders, not civilians, we go about making these changes as quickly, effortlessly, and painless as possible."
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I fully expect that to an extent, the process over the next few months(and the last few) is going to involve this. What I am wondering is, to bring up something Msgt was firm on, spousal benefits. How about PDA regulations, which are largely nonexistent formally. How do you do the needed crackdown on harassment of gays without driving those who may not like gays, but are good soldiers out?

The easy part is done, the rest to do is much harder.
 
Redress said:
Well, now that DADT repeal has passed, what needs to be done to implement the repeal? What changes need to happen to make the change as smooth and trouble free as possible? How should the inevitable problems that do occur be handled? What policies need to be redone?

Let's try and keep it to reasonable stuff, not things that will never happen.
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Pink shower curtains?
 
The policy is still "Don't ask", right?

Just add "sexual orientation" to all the discrimination policies and obviously all PDA policies would be extended.
 
Nothing as far as I know. It is already covered under the UCMJ. Just apply it evenly across the board. Sexual harassment etc is already on the books. Soldiers are supposed to act like professionals, and so they should.
 
Blackdog said:
Nothing as far as I know. It is already covered under the UCMJ. Just apply it evenly across the board. Sexual harassment etc is already on the books. Soldiers are supposed to act like professionals, and so they should.
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Even supporters say this will take at least a year to impliment.
 
American said:
Even supporters say this will take at least a year to impliment.
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Implement what? Gay people are already serving in the military with no problems. What are they going to implement? More sensitivity training? Hehehehe!
 
Blackdog said:
Implement what? Gay people are already serving in the military with no problems. What are they going to implement? More sensitivity training? Hehehehe!
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I don't know, it's just what I read.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
The policy is still "Don't ask", right?

Just add "sexual orientation" to all the discrimination policies and obviously all PDA policies would be extended.
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It's not as simple as that unfortunately. For example, does article 125 banning sodomy have to go? I think it should since it has long ago outlived it's usefulness. PDA policy is mostly informal, not written policy. Since some gays are going to be the flamboyant type, how to handle them?
 
Redress said:
It's not as simple as that unfortunately. For example, does article 125 banning sodomy have to go? I think it should since it has long ago outlived it's usefulness. PDA policy is mostly informal, not written policy. Since some gays are going to be the flamboyant type, how to handle them?
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They can be as flamboyant as they want to be as long as they wear the uniform correctly and follow the UCMJ. If they don't, they will be held to the same level of discipline as everyone else.
 
Blackdog said:
They can be as flamboyant as they want to be as long as they wear the uniform correctly and follow the UCMJ. If they don't, they will be held to the same level of discipline as everyone else.
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I don't think it is as simple as that. The military does have a certain culture to it, and I think some are going to go in with the idea of disrupting or changing that culture rather than being part of it. That is the wrong reason to join the military.
 
Redress said:
I don't think it is as simple as that. The military does have a certain culture to it, and I think some are going to go in with the idea of disrupting or changing that culture rather than being part of it. That is the wrong reason to join the military.
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As if heterosexual people have not gone in with the same bad idea. It is that simple.
 
Treat them just like heterosexual people are treated now. I really don't see why any special new rules should be implemented.

Also, getting rid of the sodomy rules, it's not like their enforced anyway, but it's time to get those out of date rules off the books.
 
Redress said:
I fully expect that to an extent, the process over the next few months(and the last few) is going to involve this. What I am wondering is, to bring up something Msgt was firm on, spousal benefits. How about PDA regulations, which are largely nonexistent formally. How do you do the needed crackdown on harassment of gays without driving those who may not like gays, but are good soldiers out?

The easy part is done, the rest to do is much harder.
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spousal benefits? that's easy......unless they are legally MARRIED, no spousal benefits should exist. as far as pda, i think that would resolve itself pretty quickly. excessive pda is pretty gross no matter what your orientation is.
 
I don't really think there is anything to implement with DADT. The only thing they need to do is repeal preventing homosexuals from openly serving. I have no problems with they have behavioral laws set in place against sexual advances or other advances because these things are inappropriate anyway.
 
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