gordontravels
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gordontravels said:
W. Mark Felt,..............................has been held up by the left wing of the country as a hero for years.
:duel
The idiocy of the right never ceases to amaze me. Comparing a BLOW JOB to a President who committed multiple felonies due to his paranoia is pathetic.Stinger said:Shouldn't Linda Tripp be considered a hero too then?
26 X World Champs said:The idiocy of the right never ceases to amaze me. Comparing a BLOW JOB to a President who committed multiple felonies due to his paranoia is pathetic.
Nixon was a criminal, forced to resign in disgrace. In case you all need to be reminded when Nixon resigned he did so to avoid being impeached and then convicted. Unlike the coup d'etat attempt of the Clinton Administration Nixon lost support from everyone, Democrats AND Republicans. He was also an alcoholic at the end, delusional, and totally guilty.
Lest we forget that his wonderful Veep, Spiro Agnew was forced to resign too due to felonies he committed as governor of Maryland.
What a pair! How dark a time was it in American history when within 2 years the President and Vice President resigned in disgrace?
Clinton's impeachment was a witch hunt, bogus, totally partisan. Don't throw the BS around about Liberals trying to get Nixon! He "got" himself. How paranoid is it that you have to break into the Democratic Headquarters in a year that you will go on to win 49 States?
Nixon was the worst President in modern American history, by light years. Bush is his caddy.....
Come on Champ, get your links out here. Nixon wasn't forced to do anything. He did what was good for the country, unlike Clinton. :spin: all you want, I was old enough to remember and know you are full of :bs I didn't vote for Nixon back then, but his only crime was lying to defend his staff. Imagine that, a politician lies. Guess what -- he wasn't under oath in a court of law like Clinton was. Who was a felon?Nixon was a criminal, forced to resign in disgrace. In case you all need to be reminded when Nixon resigned he did so to avoid being impeached and then convicted. Unlike the coup d'etat attempt of the Clinton Administration Nixon lost support from everyone, Democrats AND Republicans. He was also an alcoholic at the end, delusional, and totally guilty.
RightatNYU said:Nixon was crazy, but he was a crazy man who won 49 states and if not for Watergate, would have been one of the better loved presidents of our time.
Under no circumstances is what Clinton and Nixon did comparable, but it doesn't mean Clinton's actions should be brushed aside. Just like the right cant claim liberals got Nixon, the left can't claim conservatives got Clinton. They didn't plant Monica, they didn't encourage her to do what she did, they didn't trick him. It's not like he thought it was Hillary.
He knew what he was doing, and proceeded to put on a masterful show of innocence for a loooooong time.
Pacridge said:Yes, Tricky **** won a bunch of states. But it turns out he may have done so using illegal activities. The whole reason for Watergate was the break in at the democratic headquarters prior to the election.
I don't know about whether the left brought down Nixon. But the right certainly went after and brought down Clinton. Sure he helped them out by lying but they spent millions trying to find something to hang him with. Everything from old land deals to travel costs. They finally found something in his personal sex life. And you're right they probably didn't plant Monica, but having an affair isn't an illegal act. Hiring guys to break into the opposing parties headquarters is.
Of all the things to come about over the past couple of days since "Deep Throat" revealed himself, by far my favorite was watching G. Gordon Liddy. He Said "this guys no hero he acted immorally." Yeah Liddy you spent time in prison for burglary because this guy spilled the beans. Don't think you got a lot of room to be claiming someone else's actions were immoral.
RightatNYU said:Having the affair wasn't illegal, lying about it under oath was.
Pacridge said:Yes but why did he end up under oath? Because the right investigated his having an affair. Again which wasn't illegal in the first place.
RightatNYU said:It's true. Although I would have to argue that his history of allegations of sexual harassment is something that was in fact worthy of investigation.
The investigation was in relation to the Paula Jones harassment case.But that's not what they were investigating. They were investigating whether he had sexual relations in the oval office with Ms. Lewinsky.
26 X World Champs said:The idiocy of the right never ceases to amaze me. Comparing a BLOW JOB to a President who committed multiple felonies due to his paranoia is pathetic.
Nixon was a criminal,
In case you all need to be reminded when Nixon resigned he did so to avoid being impeached
Unlike the coup d'etat attempt of the Clinton Administration
Nixon lost support from everyone, Democrats AND Republicans.
He was also an alcoholic at the end, delusional, and totally guilty.
Lest we forget that his wonderful Veep, Spiro Agnew
Clinton's impeachment was a witch hunt, bogus
, totally partisan.
Don't throw the BS around about Liberals trying to get Nixon! He "got" himself.
How paranoid is it that you have to break into the Democratic Headquarters in a year that you will go on to win 49 States?
Squawker said:The investigation was in relation to the Paula Jones harassment case.
Pacridge said:They finally found something in his personal sex life. And you're right they probably didn't plant Monica, but having an affair isn't an illegal act.
Hiring guys to break into the opposing parties headquarters is.
Of all the things to come about over the past couple of days since "Deep Throat" revealed himself, by far my favorite was watching G. Gordon Liddy. He Said "this guys no hero he acted immorally."
Yeah Liddy you spent time in prison for burglary because this guy spilled the beans. Don't think you got a lot of room to be claiming someone else's actions were immoral.
Pacridge said:Yes but why did he end up under oath? Because the right investigated his having an affair. Again which wasn't illegal in the first place.
Pacridge said:But that's not what they were investigating. They were investigating whether he had sexual relations in the oval office with Ms. Lewinsky.
Nobody made the claim that she was harassed. She certainly didn't.
Pacridge said:Fair enough then how come they were checking DNA on a dress she never wore? Monica never claimed she was abused. She asked to be left alone over and over.
Pacridge said:But that's not what they were investigating. They were investigating whether he had sexual relations in the oval office with Ms. Lewinsky. Nobody made the claim that she was harassed. She certainly didn't.
RightatNYU said:Sexual congress with a subordinate in the workplace IS sexual harassment. And obviously someone made the allegation, or they wouldn't have known where to start looking.
RightatNYU said:Sexual congress with a subordinate in the workplace IS sexual harassment. And obviously someone made the allegation, or they wouldn't have known where to start looking.
sebastiansdreams said:The other large problem with the Clinton ordeal is that he did it in his place of work. If I were a professor at a University and were having sex in one of my classrooms or in my office, if it were proven that I was doing this, I would be releaved of my position. That is true with nearly any business. BUT, all of that put aside, is our friend "deep throat" a hero or not? I agree with Clinton on this (just saw him in an interview) in that in normal circumstances this sort of leak is a bad thing for many reasons. But, in this case, as it were, it was a noble act that needed to be done.
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