If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

[Gardener]

I call bullshit. Show the study and I will rip it to shreds.

Sounds like one of those studies where they set out to get a result.

The quoted only plays a roll.

They accuse others of being in some sort of cult even as they swear up and down that women have cocks.

They are not the British bunch.

 

[noonereal]

Yes.
You are much better equipped to make that assessment than trained professionals.

As our dear friend @Mycroft says:
You are dismissed.

My knowledge in the general field of human behavior and neuroscience would likely surprise you.

 

[noonereal]

they swear up and down that women have cocks.

Well, the exotic ones do.

 

[Gardener]

If you're open to discriminating against one group, you're generally open to discriminating against others. Look for patterns when you deal with people. People are left or right not because of groupthink, but because those who share common values tend to think alike -- or at least have their opinions based on certain foundational values. Ask Gardener about his views on Gaza.

You wish to allow men who identify as women to beat up on women but not men who identify as men.

The discrimination of yours.




Your love of the actions taken by Hamas on Oct 6 have nothing to do with this thread.

 

[BabaVoss]

I understand and very much appreciate that some people like women.
Personally, I am very attracted to women.
I'm glad that some people are attracted to men, too.
Love is all you need.

 

[Gardener]

Well, the exotic ones do.

That provides them a different type of viewing material for when they are not viewing them beating up women.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

My knowledge in the general field of human behavior and neuroscience would likely surprise you.

I understand.
Your vast knowledge on human behavior and neuroscience has led you to conclude being repulsed by homosexuality is inbred.

It's my contention that repulsion to homosexuality, also known as homophobia, is generally not considered a natural or inherent human trait. It is more likely a learned behavior or attitude influenced by social and cultural factors.

With your vast knowledge in the field, I'm surprised you are unaware of these facts.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

He proved it by responding as "we".

You still dodging the question has been duly noted.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

This is how some people debate an issue:

There ARE, however, vast legions of leftists too stupid to understand principles, and who operate strictly according to groupthink.

Which principles don't we understand?

We, as in we vast legions. Now here comes the true irony...............

Ask me again when you achieve adult sentence and are capable of speaking as an individual.

Yeesh, throwing out a personal insult for using the plural "we".

He proved it by responding as "we".

Well yeah, you were talking about a vast legion and Dans responded with "we."

First of all, throwing out personal insults and suggesting someone needs to achieve adult sentence (a sentence which, if you read it carefully, makes no sense in itself) while using poor sentence structure and not understanding how someone was replying in the plural since your attack was in the plural, is truly ironic - and idiotic.

 

[Taylor]

I didn't say it was inborn.
But, in case you'd like to learn the reality of the situation,
Other studies have shown heterosexual anxiety towards homosexuals is not inborn. While there may be a biological component to sexual orientation, research suggests that negative attitudes and behaviors towards gay individuals are primarily shaped by social and cultural factors, including prejudice, ignorance, fear, and the influence of religious and political beliefs.

Other studies have shown that the strong aversion has nothing to do with prejudice, ignorance, fear, and the influence of religious and political beliefs. Maybe they're just wired that way.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Other studies have shown that the strong aversion has nothing to do with prejudice, ignorance, fear, and the influence of religious and political beliefs. Maybe they're just wired that way.

I would love to see you post such studies. Seriously. The aversions you are talking to are towards sexual or physical acts. But NOT towards individuals we associate with those sexual or physical acts.
It's like when there were, and still are in some places, an aversion to seeing a black man kissing a white woman. Those that have the aversion don't see the individual, they see ONLY the kissing.
If you have an aversion, it is an aversion to the homosexual demonstration of love, or sex. And you interpret that as an aversion of the person. Yet, if you didn't know the person was homosexual, would you still feel an aversion towards them?

 

[TheGoverness]

I've asked this question of most of the bigoted transphobic/Homophobic folks here, but i never get a viable response.
Normally, they just refuse to answer.
Or, they'll answer "if you don't know i feel sorry for you", or something along those lines.

I'd like to try and understand what makes some think their sexual proclivities are less or more perverse than other folks.

I recall as a teenager, sitting around with my friends shooting the shit. We'd discuss all sorts of topics. One day, homosexuality came up. We all agreed that watching two beautiful females kissing would be pleasing. But, when visualizing two men kissing on the mouth, their grisly beards scratching against one another, the reactions became mixed.
Now, none of us were bigots as teenagers, but I wondered, what caused some kids to swing towards bigotry in adulthood, and others to lean towards acceptance and inclusion?

It's funny because as someone who only likes women, men kissing men doesn't repulse me at all. Like, one of my best dude friends has a boyfriend, and when they give each other pecks I think it's sweet.

 

[Gardener]

This is how some people debate an issue:




We, as in we vast legions. Now here comes the true irony...............


Yeesh, throwing out a personal insult for using the plural "we".


Well yeah, you were talking about a vast legion and Dans responded with "we."

First of all, throwing out personal insults and suggesting someone needs to achieve adult sentence (a sentence which, if you read it carefully, makes no sense in itself) while using poor sentence structure and not understanding how someone was replying in the plural since your attack was in the plural, is truly ironic - and idiotic.

Thank you for pointing out the dropped letter in sentience.

Those on the current trans bandwagon who do not understand that they DID NOT believe that women have cocks 15 years ago lack sentience by very definitionm

 

[Aries]

I've asked this question of most of the bigoted transphobic/Homophobic folks here, but i never get a viable response.
Normally, they just refuse to answer.
Or, they'll answer "if you don't know i feel sorry for you", or something along those lines.

I'd like to try and understand what makes some think their sexual proclivities are less or more perverse than other folks.

I recall as a teenager, sitting around with my friends shooting the shit. We'd discuss all sorts of topics. One day, homosexuality came up. We all agreed that watching two beautiful females kissing would be pleasing. But, when visualizing two men kissing on the mouth, their grisly beards scratching against one another, the reactions became mixed.
Now, none of us were bigots as teenagers, but I wondered, what caused some kids to swing towards bigotry in adulthood, and others to lean towards acceptance and inclusion?

I chock it up to men who get boners when they poop. It's a thing, look it up.

 

[Hamish Howl]

For starters, I do not conflate the two.

There is nothing perverted about either.


There ARE, however, vast legions of leftists too stupid to understand principles, and who operate strictly according to groupthink.

Oh, the principles of punching down on people that don't affect your life in any way.

I see.

 

[Taylor]

I would love to see you post such studies. Seriously. The aversions you are talking to are towards sexual or physical acts. But NOT towards individuals we associate with those sexual or physical acts.

I never said otherwise. I was responding to posts that mentioned reactions to "public displays of affection between two men." Pretty specific.

 

[Gardener]

Oh, the principles of punching down on people that don't affect your life in any way.

I see.

No, I DON'T punch down on women like you misogynists who want to see them hurt.

 

[Hamish Howl]

No, I DON'T punch down on women like you misogynists who want to see them hurt.

Gay people do that? Trans people do that?

 

[Gardener]

Gay people do that? Trans people do that?

You certainly are an illogical fellow, aren't you?

When did you first find yourself hating women and despising liberalism?

 

[Hamish Howl]

You certainly are an illogical fellow, aren't you?

When did you first find yourself hating women and despising liberalism?

I notice you didn't answer the question.

I didn't expect you to.

 

[Gardener]

I chock it up to men who get boners when they poop. It's a thing, look it up.

If you think they get boners, then, you should see them when chicks with dicks are beating on women.

 

[Gardener]

I notice you didn't answer the question.

I didn't expect you to.

Your very stupid question did not stem from anything I said.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I could see this being a poll with a few options, mainly to enhance the ready moments.

 

[armycowboy]

If you think they get boners, then, you should see them when chicks with dicks are beating on women.

You seem obsessed. It's a rather strange thing to be obsessed about since there are so few trans women in sports, but you do you.

 

[venice_ca]

If you watch a ballet, figure skating, ballroom dancing the eyes of the audience is always on the women. Both men and women watch the women as the main focus of concentration.

As if ballet dancers Nureyev, Baryshnikov, Acosta, Cornejo, Corella, etc never existed.