If Iran Attacks Targets in USA, Should Republicans Impeach & Remove Trump?

[Simon W. Moon]

Explaining why peachment isn't always the best idea. It's the go-to to Democrats because they're kind of out of ideas

ROFLMAO


So, now you WERE talking about impeachment?

 

[Uncensored2008]

He should be impeached and removed for a million reasons, this one included.

Then appoint Obama King,

How dare he deny our rightful ruler a 4th term.

Standard Disclaimer: None dare call democrats rational.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am not categorically against taking out Iran's nuke lab bunkers but considering it's Twumpy, my confidence is near zero. We have the finest military one could hope for, led by the people who brought us "Four Seasons Landscaping", Signal chat OpSec failures, DoGE blind chopping axes, FAA gutting, the list of FUBAR is too long to cite in whole.

And last but not least, even if the mission is 100% perfect, I am convinced Twumpy will leave the USA wide open and defenseless against Iranian reprisals.
I am even convinced he would INTENTIONALLY leave blue states vulnerable and might even secretly HELP make sure they are targeted.

We could take out Iran's nuke capability and then watch L.A. residents awakened by sleeper cell bombings, bio warfare or worse.
And of course he will deny all responsibility, and he might even say blue states DESERVE it because he IS just that evil.

The Comrades on this board - who are effectively America's Hamas - deny that Israel exists. Hence, actions by the sovereign nation of Israel they claim were done by Emmanuel Goldstein - the object of their insane hatred.

Democrat Hamas (damas? Dumas fits) can't be taught that it was in fact the brilliant Mossad that destroyed the nuclear program of their close ally Iran.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why not? It's what you do best. How many times have you failed so far?Is it three? Four?

Hey, leftists gunna be traitors and advocate violence against the United States Government.

It's just the nature of Democrat Hamas - AKA Dumas.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm saying it is awfully easy for a sleeper cell to do something incredibly dangerous, and stupid, right here, right now.
We mustn't fool ourselves into thinking we can't be touched, we can.
And we must accept the reality that our own president may also decide to become somehow complicit in secret schemes to further punish
people in states he thinks are insufficiently loyal to him.

There is NO bottom when it comes to Donald Trump, he will stop at nothing. His faithful will stop at nothing.
His followers right here are so locked in on his TrumpSignal that it isn't even necessary for anyone else to watch or listen to their RW news channels because ten minutes later a dozen of them are right here, parroting it ad nauseum.
They don't have a single original thought in their collectively shared three brain cells.
They only know how to CTRL+C> CTRL+V.

We might end up under attack by two forces.
Trump will most certainly try to pin blame on "radical leftists", he'd be happy to have Iranian sleeper cells do his dirty work for him.
Again, there is no bottom.

Yet it is you advocating murder of the POTUS.

It doesn't seem like it's Emmanuel Goldstein with "NO bottom," but more of the hate filled ranks of the Democrat Hamas brigade.

 

[CLAX1911]

ROFLMAO


So, now you WERE talking about impeachment?

We were always talking about it I said I didn't mention it learn to read please.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

We were always talking about it I said I didn't mention it learn to read please.

so, you were needlessly spitting hairs

that's smart tactic when you cannot use facts or logic

 

[Uncensored2008]

Who is "they" ?

The hive.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/08/opinion/obeidallah-liberals-obama

Oh I know, that's (D) different...

 

[lynnwinslow]

The hive.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/08/opinion/obeidallah-liberals-obama

Oh I know, that's (D) different...

Umm, its 2025 not 2012.

 

[Uncensored2008]

IRAN????

Pretty much the entire Islamic world wants us attacked EVEN MORE now.

Trump and Bibi are creating terrorists that will still be attacking our 2yo children in 60 years.

Oh my Allah - Israel had a DUTY TO DIE - and defied America's Hamas; the democrats.

How dare they! And now the closest ally the democrats have is in flames.

 

[CLAX1911]

so, you were needlessly spitting hairs

No. The new jerk reaction of Republicans may not just be impeach everyone that disagrees with me.

that's smart tactic when you cannot use facts or logic

Have you ever heard the phrase bad faith?

 

[Diving Mullah]

Hence my suggestion, we have to nip this in the bud before the oft repeated pattern has a chance to grow legs and throw us into another twenty year pointless dead end.
And I don't mean to say I think it's pointless to neuter Iran's ambitions for a nuke bomb, that's a valid concern.
I'm talking about the fact that despite the valid concern, Trump is bound to screw it up completely and bankrupt any and all moral justification because in the end we know he dreams of a Trump Taj Mahal Tehran or some other boondoggle and he's bound to drag us completely away from valid concerns and into his reality tee vee jerkoff fantasy instead.

Because he is who and what he is, a guy who can bankrupt four casinos and stiff everyone who helped build them in the process.

The term "neuter" isn’t appropriate here. What you're really suggesting is bombing a nation into such a broken state that it loses its ability to self-govern. But the more you try to subdue a country by force, the more it sees the need for nuclear weapons to defend itself from exactly that kind of aggression.


Let’s review a bit of history.


In the 1950s, Iran experienced a democratic revolution. But in 1953, the U.S. and U.K., through Operation Ajax, overthrew Iran’s elected government and reinstated the Shah. That betrayal ultimately led to the 1979 revolution. Once again, when the U.S. perceived Iran as a threat, it supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War—arming Saddam Hussein and even supplying chemical weapons, which were used against Iranian soldiers.


At the same time, Iran was being targeted by missiles launched from U.S.-backed proxies in Yemen and Kuwait. These countries were essentially acting as launchpads for attacks, protected under the umbrella of American defense.


From Iran’s point of view, it is surrounded by hostile forces—much like Israel once was. And just as Israel pursued nuclear weapons as a deterrent, Iran sees the same path as a necessity for survival. The idea that Iran is building nuclear weapons because it’s evil misses the point—it's about deterrence in a hostile environment shaped by decades of intervention and betrayal.


If you truly want to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, the only effective path is through diplomacy and negotiation. The more you try to bully Iran, the more they’ll seek anti-bullying tools. That means nukes.


And let’s not forget—Netanyahu has been claiming since at least 2016, 2017, and 2018 that Iran was “weeks away” from getting a bomb. So why the sudden urgency now?


This isn’t about national security. It’s politics. It’s legacy-building. Maybe it’s Netanyahu’s swan song—an attempt to leave behind a legacy of “strength” before he fades from power, or worse, from life. But make no mistake: this is a political maneuver, not a military necessity. And certainly not a solution.


Because if you push a nation into a corner, don’t be surprised when they start arming themselves to the teeth.

Diving Mullah

 

[Diving Mullah]

Addendum:


Let’s not forget—during the Bush II era, U.S. intelligence released a white paper claiming that Iran had developed extremely advanced anti–bunker buster defenses. So advanced, in fact, that conventional weapons would be ineffective against their nuclear facilities. Iran had over two decades to perfect this defensive infrastructure. The only guaranteed method to destroy those sites? Nuclear weapons.


Yes, nuclear weapons were seriously considered by the Bush administration. But ultimately, the idea was shelved—because even the warmongering hawks in the room realized the radioactive fallout would drift straight into Pakistan and China. Two nuclear-armed countries we really didn’t want to screw with.


So the neocon thirst for mushroom clouds was, mercifully, crushed by cooler heads.


But now we come to this administration—one that has openly declared its intent to dismantle democratically elected state governments ("Blue" states) over a few burned-out cars and protest graffiti. You really think they’d hesitate to push the red button? I wouldn’t put it past them.


And remember: we already had a nuclear deal with Iran. It was forged under Obama—an imperfect but functional agreement. Then Trump tore it up like a toddler with a tantrum, signaling to Iran and the world that U.S. diplomacy is nothing but a gamble. Agreements made today can be erased tomorrow on a political whim.


The message to Iran was loud and clear: you can’t trust the U.S. to keep its word. And when trust evaporates, so do the chances of peace.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

No.

yeah, you were playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment

Have you ever heard the phrase bad faith?

weren't they some 80s band?

or do you mean stuff like playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment?

 

[CLAX1911]

yeah, you were playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment

I wasn't trying to act like I wasn't talking about impeachment I was I said I didn't mention it. You went on a rent how Republicans don't sync to Democrat levels as though that's some criticism of Republicans.

weren't they some 80s band?

When you're arguing in bad faith and means you're dishonest.

or do you mean stuff like playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment?

No I mean stuff like accusing someone of playing games when you should probably just act a little more mature.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The term "neuter" isn’t appropriate here. What you're really suggesting is bombing a nation into such a broken state that it loses its ability to self-govern. But the more you try to subdue a country by force, the more it sees the need for nuclear weapons to defend itself from exactly that kind of aggression.


Let’s review a bit of history.


In the 1950s, Iran experienced a democratic revolution. But in 1953, the U.S. and U.K., through Operation Ajax, overthrew Iran’s elected government and reinstated the Shah. That betrayal ultimately led to the 1979 revolution. Once again, when the U.S. perceived Iran as a threat, it supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War—arming Saddam Hussein and even supplying chemical weapons, which were used against Iranian soldiers.


At the same time, Iran was being targeted by missiles launched from U.S.-backed proxies in Yemen and Kuwait. These countries were essentially acting as launchpads for attacks, protected under the umbrella of American defense.


From Iran’s point of view, it is surrounded by hostile forces—much like Israel once was. And just as Israel pursued nuclear weapons as a deterrent, Iran sees the same path as a necessity for survival. The idea that Iran is building nuclear weapons because it’s evil misses the point—it's about deterrence in a hostile environment shaped by decades of intervention and betrayal.


If you truly want to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, the only effective path is through diplomacy and negotiation. The more you try to bully Iran, the more they’ll seek anti-bullying tools. That means nukes.


And let’s not forget—Netanyahu has been claiming since at least 2016, 2017, and 2018 that Iran was “weeks away” from getting a bomb. So why the sudden urgency now?


This isn’t about national security. It’s politics. It’s legacy-building. Maybe it’s Netanyahu’s swan song—an attempt to leave behind a legacy of “strength” before he fades from power, or worse, from life. But make no mistake: this is a political maneuver, not a military necessity. And certainly not a solution.


Because if you push a nation into a corner, don’t be surprised when they start arming themselves to the teeth.

Diving Mullah

I don't dispute a single pearl that you brought up from your dive, Mr. Mullah.
I would MUCH rather we pursue the previous path of diplomacy and negotiation, but I was saying I am not going to wring my hands in grief if a country knocks out Iran's nuclear refining capability in the absence of such negotiations.
I am guilty of not presenting my view properly or in the proper context, I guess.
I don't dispute a single pearl that you brought up, which is probably why you ARE the Diving Mullah.



PS: On at least a half dozen other occasions I've reminded other members about our involvement in the 1953 coup against Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's democratically elected leader.
In fact I brought it up last week and mentioned a Mr. Helseth who was one of the participants IN the aftermath of that coup and how his little boy was a classmate of mine in second and third grade.
Naturally I knew NOTHING about it other than his kid told everyone he and his family had to move back to "eye-ran" again and so we never saw our little classmate again.

https://adst.org/OH%20TOCs/Helseth,%20William%20A.toc.pdf

 

[Diving Mullah]

what is your grief level trigger point...killing 1000, 10,000, 100,00 to take out the imaginary and nuclear weapon facilities?

Afghanistan, with a population of 22 million, imploded and hence came 9/11
What are the consequences of Iran imploding with a population of 90 million in a country the size of Texas and California combined?

Obama and Europe had agreed to give Thorium Reactors to Iran, but Trump rejected those plans, so Iran had to go back to the conventional method.

Diving Mullah

 

[Jay59]

If Iran Attacks Targets in USA, Should Republicans Impeach & Remove Trump?

What a bizarre question.

Doing so would be unconstitutional since it is not an act by the President.

I get that you are all anti-Trump, all the time, but this is over the top even in that fringe group.

Fixed this.
The term MAGA is the equivalent of Lee Atwater sanitizing the use of "NI**ER".

 

[CLAX1911]

What a bizarre question.

Doing so would be unconstitutional since it is not an act by the President.

I get that you are all anti-Trump, all the time, but this is over the top even in that fringe group.

I think since the 2016 election they've really nullified the power of an impeachment.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I wasn't trying to act like I wasn't talking about impeachment I was I said I didn't mention it.

sure. sure.

Here're your posts (again) which show otherwise.

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Obviously you haven't yet learned that it's an impeachable offense when a republican breathes in the wrong direction! But it's definitely NOT an impeachable offense for Democrats to intentionally plan and coordinate the trafficking of 10+ million single male illegal immigrant economic migrants into the country for the express purpose of using them to gain more power by counting them in the census to increase the number of democrat congresspeople.
Then later granting them amnesty, so as to further undermine democracy by bribing them with tax dollars to vote for Democrats in presidential and senatorial elections!

take it up with the GOP
THE GOP CONGRESS DECIDED IT WAS NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE
why you trying to blame DP posters for the GOP congress's bullshit?

They're just arresting Biden's attempted suicide of the nation. Some pathetic little up starts and riot land don't really matter.

it's not actually something which is debatable​

• The GOP FAILED to impeach Biden for the actions @ModerationNow! said were impeachable offenses.​

• The GOP is responsible for the GOP's actions.​

• Therefore, the GOP decided that the actions @ModerationNow! said were impeachable offenses were not worthy of impeachment.​

does the GOP's failure to walk the walk, have any emotional impact on you?

I didn't mention anything about impeachment so let's try and read what we're responding to in response to what we read in the future.

You butted into my conversation w/ @ModerationNow! about impeachment w/ your comments.
why did you respond to a post in a conversation about impeachment when your comments were not about impeachment?
sounds like you may need to read the post you are responding to
Let me help you by laying out the posts in the conversation you decided to participate in.
Maybe you forgot to read it first?

Explaining why peachment isn't always the best idea. It's the go-to to Democrats because they're kind of out of ideas

ROFLMAO
So, now you WERE talking about impeachment?

We were always talking about it I said I didn't mention it learn to read please.

so, you were needlessly spitting hairs
that's smart tactic when you cannot use facts or logic

No. The new jerk reaction of Republicans may not just be impeach everyone that disagrees with me.
Have you ever heard the phrase bad faith?

yeah, you were playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment
weren't they some 80s band?
or do you mean stuff like playing games w/ words trying act like you were not talking about impeachment when we were talking about impeachment?

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You went on a rent how Republicans don't sync to Democrat levels as though that's some criticism of Republicans.

That wasn't me.

"so let's try and read what we're responding to"​

No I mean stuff like accusing someone of playing games when you should probably just act a little more mature.

LOL

when you realize you have run out of argument, you start to tell people how to behave

 

[CLAX1911]

sure. sure.

Here're your posts (again) which show otherwise.

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That wasn't me.

"so let's try and read what we're responding to"​

LOL

when you realize you have run out of argument, you start to tell people how to behave

You said Republicans didn't impeach Biden. I agreed what do you want me to argue about?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

You said Republicans didn't impeach Biden. I agreed what do you want me to argue about?

ROFLMAO

at what you try to pass off as a summary of the conversation

your carefree attitude about accuracy is noted

 

[CLAX1911]

ROFLMAO

at what you try to pass off as a summary of the conversation

There wasn't a conversation. There was you saying Republicans didn't impeach Biden and me agreeing with you and then you hooping and hollering and carrying on for post after post after post. And I'm mostly just antagonizing you to watch you that's kind of funny

your carefree attitude about accuracy is noted

So when you said the Republicans did not impeach Biden and I agreed with you you were lying? Wow you sure showed me you were dishonest and somehow me agreeing with you makes me dishonest.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

There wasn't a conversation. There was you saying Republicans didn't impeach Biden and me agreeing with you and then you hooping and hollering and carrying on for post after post after post. And I'm mostly just antagonizing you to watch you that's kind of funny
So when you said the Republicans did not impeach Biden and I agreed with you you were lying? Wow you sure showed me you were dishonest and somehow me agreeing with you makes me dishonest.

the record of your posts undercuts the falsehoods you're trying to spread​

Post in thread 'If Iran Attacks Targets in USA, Should Republicans Impeach & Remove Trump?'

Jun 18, 2025

I wasn't trying to act like I wasn't talking about impeachment I was I said I didn't mention it.

sure. sure.

Here're your posts (again) which show otherwise.

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Obviously you haven't yet learned that it's an impeachable offense when a republican breathes in the wrong direction! But it's definitely NOT an impeachable offense for Democrats to intentionally plan and coordinate the trafficking of 10+ million single male illegal immigrant economic migrants into the country for the express purpose of using them to gain more power by counting them in the census to...

• Simon W. Moon

 

[CLAX1911]

the record of your posts undercuts the falsehoods you're trying to spread​

Well that's good because I'm not trying to spread any.

Post in thread 'If Iran Attacks Targets in USA, Should Republicans Impeach & Remove Trump?'

Jun 18, 2025

I wasn't trying to act like I wasn't talking about impeachment I was I said I didn't mention it.

sure. sure.

Here're your posts (again) which show otherwise.

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Obviously you haven't yet learned that it's an impeachable offense when a republican breathes in the wrong direction! But it's definitely NOT an impeachable offense for Democrats to intentionally plan and coordinate the trafficking of 10+ million single male illegal immigrant economic migrants into the country for the express purpose of using them to gain more power by counting them in the census to...

• Simon W. Moon