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If i had had two gay parents

JustineCredible said:
My son has been raised by two lesbians

(one of whom has impeccable fashion sense)
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Aw, Justine, now we know you're lying ;)

But seriously, sounds as if your son is very lucky.

Children will get a hard time for all kinds of reasons. It's part of growing up. I think in this day and age, when so many children have parents who are divorced, I think other children might envy someone whose parents are in a stable relationship, regardless of their sex or sexuality.
 
JustineCredible said:
Growing up and it's affects are part what your parents do, part what your friends say and part what you make of it all.
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Exactly!!!

My kiddos are growing up with one mother, two fathers (who happened to be openly bi) all under one roof and deeply in love. They don't set it out there, nor do they hide it. Among their circle (not close circle even) it's common knowledge and they've never been teased about it..........asked many questions, some of which they tire at times, but never teased.

When you think about all the different family configurations seen in our society these days, half the kids out there would be bully-bait. Not just the two dads or two moms thing, but how about the no dad, or no mom. How about two or three step parents..........better yet, how about various step families where the adults hate each other? How about parents who live across many miles from each other and travel back/forth or kiddos who do the traveling, summers here, winters there etc. How about grandparents raising children while parents do their own thing, or are absent entirely?

Kids are adaptable and bigger minded than most adults. The only bias we've ever faced has come from the parents of their peers..........never, ever from the children themselves. Sure bullies use what they can find, and hang on like a dog to a bone once they fixate, but kids of gays (or other unusual family configurations) are no more/less targets for bullying from what I've observed over the years than any other kid out there.
 
I have a couple of friends whose daughter doesn't get picked on despite having two mommies, and there are at least two other same sex couples with children at my son's school, and they aren't picked on either.

Seems a bit odd to expect our laws should somehow follow the dictates of the most brutish elements of our society.
 
By the way i havent suggested once same sex couples are incapeable of raising a child im sayin society isnt ready to except it very easily at all.Fact is two people are more capeable of bringing up a child well than one not to say one parent familys are uncapeable.
 
nineplus said:
Exactly!!!


Kids are adaptable and bigger minded than most adults.
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And that's what "normal" parents are afraid of. They don't want their children to grow up with different opinions.

And good for you for living life in a way that suits you.
 
mikhail said:
Im not sayin this as some kind of having a go at gay people in general. Im just saying society is not ready for same sex parents.
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Ah, like society was not ready for "Negroes" to sit in the front of the bus and using the same drinking fountains? With that attitude, the Civil Rights movement would never have happened.

I thought the idea of adoption services was to make sure a child can the most stable life possible.
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And the research, as we have shown many times by now, shows that children from homosexual parents are as well-balanced and adjusted as any other kids. So your concern is just a thinly veiled example of bigotry.
 
Adoption agencies should energetically recruit gays and lesbians, including them in outreach programs and parenting panels, the institute said. <snip>

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GAY_ADOPTION?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

And before the homophobes ask if this research was conducted by NAMBLA, the answer is no. This report is from a major adoption institute.

Sorry, but you naysayers have been proven wrong....again....not that that matters much to them.....they'd argue with a signpost and go the wrong direction everytime.:roll:
 
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steen said:
Ah, like society was not ready for "Negroes" to sit in the front of the bus and using the same drinking fountains? With that attitude, the Civil Rights movement would never have happened.
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I really don't think you can compare someone's race to their sexual orientation. They're too different things. A person can't help his or her race but it's still in debate as to whether people are born gay or rather just certain circumstances make them that way. Ann Heche for example thought she was gay and now she says she's straight. So some people might just get confused for whatever reason. I'm not saying that's morally wrong or anything. I'm just saying that the comparison between race and lifestyle is rather weak.

And the research, as we have shown many times by now, shows that children from homosexual parents are as well-balanced and adjusted as any other kids. So your concern is just a thinly veiled example of bigotry.
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Some research might show that, yes. But we shouldn't just dismiss research that might prove the contrary and simply label them as, "bigots".
 
George_Washington said:
I really don't think you can compare someone's race to their sexual orientation. They're too different things. A person can't help his or her race but it's still in debate as to whether people are born gay or rather just certain circumstances make them that way. Ann Heche for example thought she was gay and now she says she's straight. So some people might just get confused for whatever reason. I'm not saying that's morally wrong or anything. I'm just saying that the comparison between race and lifestyle is rather weak.
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Well of they were the exactly the same than it wouldn't be a metaphor!

Dude, it's true, some believe that whether or not you're gay is a choice (which seems illogical, because I don't recall ever choosing to like girls), or a result of somethings that happened while you were growing up (which seems like it could make sense), or just how you are (which also seems like it makes sense). But you should notice that the only aspect that required actual choice seems to be entirely unlikely.
But that's all beside the point, because whether or not someone is gay falls into the category of "Doesn't concern you how they got that way", or "It doesn't matter", if you will, which is an aspect it shares with race.

I have known a lot of kids who've been raised by gay parents, and I'm telling you that having two loving parents has never EVER ****ed a kid up.

Also, I'm not sure if you ever made the argument about kids getting picked on, but I can offer a little bit of insight, since I was a bully up until high school.
Of course a kid would get beaten up because of having gay parents, at least considering that the bully wasn't expressly taught that homosexuality was ok (which I was when I was young). I beat up kids for every reason imaginable. I beat up kids for being too short, or having voice that I didn't like, or looking at me the wrong way, or being jewish or pakistani, for being chinese and near my rocking horse, everything. That's how the mind of a bully works, if you don't like something, or you don't understand something, you beat it up. So thus this argument is "We shouldn't allow anything that could possibly be disliked or not understood by an unstable 7 year old.", which I feel that we can agree is ridiculous.

Some research might show that, yes. But we shouldn't just dismiss research that might prove the contrary and simply label them as, "bigots".
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No, but that is also not to say that we shouldn't question the source. Also, we should compare it to legal precedent, I mean, does having gay parents **** a kid up worse than having only one parent, or being raised by zhis grandparents, or to the standard that we deny adoption or take away children from straight people.
 
All respected and intelligent reports suggest that, beyond a doubt, gays raising kids ain't a bad thing. Anything that differs with that is merely speculation and opinion.

That being said, we can lay this thread to rest.
 
Captain America said:
All respected and intelligent reports suggest that, beyond a doubt, gays raising kids ain't a bad thing. Anything that differs with that is merely speculation and opinion.

That being said, we can lay this thread to rest.
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Nay, we can't lay it to rest becase "He Who Hates Jack Daniels" has to keep it going! :mrgreen:
 
Captain America said:
All respected and intelligent reports suggest that, beyond a doubt, gays raising kids ain't a bad thing. Anything that differs with that is merely speculation and opinion.

That being said, we can lay this thread to rest.
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And I'm sure you've actually witnessed every, "respected and intelligent report" to come to this conclusion? More like you're just believing what you want to believe.
 
George_Washington said:
And I'm sure you've actually witnessed every, "respected and intelligent report" to come to this conclusion? More like you're just believing what you want to believe.
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Man, I have read so much regarding this issue from the extreme gay libbers to the most offensive homophobes you can imagine. That's why I'm going with the experts.

I know....facts schmacks, right? :3oops:

Right on.:roll:
 
Captain America said:
Man, I have read so much regarding this issue from the extreme gay libbers to the most offensive homophobes you can imagine. That's why I'm going with the experts.

I know....facts schmacks, right? :3oops:

Right on.:roll:
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Well, I am sure it's possible for homosexuals to make good parents, don't get me wrong. BUT I am sure there have also been studies on the healthiness of the standard nuclear family, aka a father and a wife. It seems like a lot of people don't ever want to acknolwedge this concept nowadays.
 
George_Washington said:
Well, I am sure it's possible for homosexuals to make good parents, don't get me wrong. BUT I am sure there have also been studies on the healthiness of the standard nuclear family, aka a father and a wife. It seems like a lot of people don't ever want to acknolwedge this concept nowadays.
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Hey, the optimum situation, in my humble opinion, is one father and one mother, married in a stable relationship.

But we must all recognize, even if we don't always agree, that in today's society, Ward and June Clever are in short supply. Research indicates that kids raised by gay couples are none the worst off for it and it sure beats the hell out of a sharp stick in the eye. So, those things considered, why would I have any objections to a gay couple adopting? Is it wrong for them to be guilty of loving and caring for a child?
 
If i had had two gay parents I would have great fashion sense and I would be emotional THEREFORE I would get all the girls and Donkey would just look at porn all day :rofl
 
If both my parents had been gay, nobody would be reading this post.
 
Sir_Alec said:
If i had had two gay parents I would have great fashion sense and I would be emotional THEREFORE I would get all the girls and Donkey would just look at porn all day :rofl
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What? Where did that come from, you Limey bastard? :2razz:
 
If my parents were gay, I'd prefer them to lesbians.:shock: Chicks rock.....ESPECIALLY lesbians. :rofl
 
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