If he is so right

[MrWonka]

He fears two things:

1. He doesn't want to lose his job which is being part of the deep state.

2. He doesn't want people to know that he is a partisan TDS'r

We didn't find out the identity of Deep Throat until decades after Nixon resigned. We didn't need to know, and it is only by guaranteeing the anonymity of these sources that we can insure they will continue to gives the information we need to eliminate corruption from our Government.

Face reality. Your boy Trump is the single most corrupt President in all of American history. Virtually every crime you accused Hillary Clinton of Trump was in fact guilty of and then some. The Trump administration convinced themselves that Hillary and Obama were doing all these things so they had no choice, but to do it themselves. They justified their actions by deluding themselves into thinking Liberals were as corrupt as they were. But none of that was ever true.

 

[Excast]

If he is so right, why wont the whistle blower come forward like a man and tell us what he knows, and stand for cross examination by republicans. What does he fear? What is he hiding.

What do they fear? I dunno, maybe the fact that the President, upon learning of their existence, pretty much immediately took to social media, accused them of being guilty of treason, and insinuated they should be killed?

How would anyone feel if the President of the United States pointed his tens of millions of dangerous, deluded followers in the direction of them and their families?

 

[MrWonka]

Wrong again. The Nazis were socialist. That is what the "S" in their party name stood for. Again I am totally opposite of Marxist or socialist.

Nope, they were Facists. They used the word Socialist to try and appeal to Marxists, but they didn't actually share any of the same values.

 

[MrWonka]

LOL. If that were the point of the investigation, they wouldn't have called it an impeachment inquiry straight out of the gates.

The impeachment inquiry was launched after it was already demonstrated that their was validity to what the whistle blower said. Trump's own dumb ass released a transcript of the very call in question not realizing that he was actually confirming the crime that he had committed.

 

[Visbek]

No I am suggesting if he is not willing to come forward like a man and testify to his claims he is a coward.

:roll:

Whistleblowers are routinely targeted for retribution for doing their jobs, and alerting their superiors to potential problems. That's the whole point of those protection laws.

We should also note that at this point, the identity of the whistleblower is irrelevant. Almost everything he reported on is already corroborated by other witnesses.

For example, let's say the police receive a phone call that shots were fired at a certain address. The police arrive, they investigate the scene, they find the gun, they find a body full of bullets, and they take witness statements from 6 neighbors. It doesn't matter if the person who made the phone call was someone who utterly hated the alleged shooter, because a) their report was accurate enough to start a legitimate investigation and b) the police were able to find more than enough evidence to make the identity of the first caller irrelevant.

My I remind you the WB that outted the CEOs of the tobacco companies came forward for all to see.

lol

You're referring to Jeffrey Wigand. He objected to the use of potentially harmful substances in the product, and was fired. He then blew the whistle on his former employers, and for years was harassed in public, received death threats, and was threatened with lawsuits by some of the wealthiest and well-connected companies in the US. His pay dropped from $300k/yr to $30k/yr.

The experiences of people like Wigand are precisely why we have whistleblower laws.

 

[Logical1]

Nope, they were Facists. They used the word Socialist to try and appeal to Marxists, but they didn't actually share any of the same values.

But they did, both believed in huge government running everyones life!!! Just like the socialist in this country want right now.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

FYI I am on the total opposite political spectrum from a Marxist.

See? That's EXACTLY what I'd expect a Marxist to post.

 

[KevinKohler]

If he is so right, why wont the whistle blower come forward like a man and tell us what he knows, and stand for cross examination by republicans. What does he fear? What is he hiding.

I seem to recall a guy who died mysteriously in federal prison, in solitary confinement, on suicide watch...


And you ask this question?

 

[Moderate Right]

So the only motivation if anyone who doesn't worship is either that they hate Trump or a conspiracy theory?

Like, no other reason, there's no way he did anything inappropriate.

So you deny if it is this person that he is part of Obama's deep state?

 

[Moderate Right]

We didn't find out the identity of Deep Throat until decades after Nixon resigned. We didn't need to know, and it is only by guaranteeing the anonymity of these sources that we can insure they will continue to gives the information we need to eliminate corruption from our Government.

Face reality. Your boy Trump is the single most corrupt President in all of American history. Virtually every crime you accused Hillary Clinton of Trump was in fact guilty of and then some. The Trump administration convinced themselves that Hillary and Obama were doing all these things so they had no choice, but to do it themselves. They justified their actions by deluding themselves into thinking Liberals were as corrupt as they were. But none of that was ever true.

It is the whistleblower who is part of the corrupt government.

 

[Redress]

So we are supposed to take Schiffs word for what he says the WB claims? I think not. By the way, WB law were written to expose illegal activities within the intel community, not to Impeach presidents.

No one is asking you to take anyone’s word? That is why there is an investigation.

And The Whistleblower Protection Act covers all federal employees, not just intel ones.

You mean like Antifa or those idiots beating on the doors of the SCOTUS? We don't do that. Democrats have that well in hand.

Random Antifa reference, everyone drink!

You don't even know who this WB is so how could you even state he cares deeply about anything. But I do recall Schiff lying about not knowing who he is. This much we do know.

Do you think Schiff made up all the testimony that has been given? If not, your argument falls apart. Who the whistleblower is is entirely irrelevant to the facts of the case. If the whistleblower complaint turns out to be accurate, and so far it has been at least partly so, then why would it matter who they are?

 

[Grand Mal]

So you deny if it is this person that he is part of Obama's deep state?

There's no such thing as a "deep state". That's just another blatant, moronic lie that the Trump administration feeds it's mass of hooting, chanting followers to give them something to be afraid of.

 

[Redress]

But they did, both believed in huge government running everyones life!!! Just like the socialist in this country want right now.

Republicans believe in big government, are they socialist? In fact, many capitalists believe in big government. So your “logic” has capitalists being socialist...

 

[Redress]

So you deny if it is this person that he is part of Obama's deep state?

If the whistleblower complaint proves to be true, what difference does it make? When your only argument is to call someone names, your argument is really ****ing weak...

 

[NebraskaFtball]

If he is so right, why wont the whistle blower come forward like a man and tell us what he knows, and stand for cross examination by republicans. What does he fear? What is he hiding.

The whistle-blower is an irrelevant distraction. They followed the law and submitted their complaint to the ICIG. Who is a Trump appointee, mind you. It is this man, the IGIG, who then had to work to corroborate the complaint, and found it to be both urgent and credible. At this point, the whistle-blower is completely out of the picture. The ICIG now acts as the accuser.

All of this of course does nothing to change the fact the veracity of the WB complaint has already been corroborated through the depositions of other witnesses to the abuse of power committed by Trump.

Anyone still raging about the WB, their identity, or a demand of their testimony is doing so out of a weak deflection attempt to avoid discussing the very real high crimes committed by Trump.

 

[NebraskaFtball]

So any one claiming WB status can tell lies about anyone they wish, and never be called to account.

BTW I am a whistle blower and I know that Bernie and Pelosi had sex with a chicken.

Your absurd claim would be somewhat accurate if not for the fact the complaint was delivered via proper channels to the ICIG, who then had to independently verify the claims before sending them on. That prevents "telling lies about anyone they wish, and never being called to account."

Logic is not everyone's strong suit apparently. Regardless of ones chosen moniker.

 

[Moderate Right]

There's no such thing as a "deep state". That's just another blatant, moronic lie that the Trump administration feeds it's mass of hooting, chanting followers to give them something to be afraid of.

Don't you think that Barr and the DOJ are a deep state?

 

[NebraskaFtball]

So you deny if it is this person that he is part of Obama's deep state?

Honestly, who cares? Who cares if the WB is the swampiest, deep statiest, deep stater of them all? Who cares if he hated Trump, went to sleep with an stuffed Obama doll on his pillow, under posters of Hillary Clinton taped all over his bedroom wall. None of that changes the reality that the information submitted in the complaint, which we can all read for ourselves, was corroborated and accurate. And it was properly given to the ICIG, who corroborated it and verified its veracity before acting upon it as urgent and credible. End of story.

 

[independentusa]

So any one claiming WB status can tell lies about anyone they wish, and never be called to account.

BTW I am a whistle blower and I know that Bernie and Pelosi had sex with a chicken.

Again, not being logical or ignorant of how the process works. The WB reports a problem to their supervisor who then investigates the item brought up by the WB to see if it is a legitimate complaint. In this case the WB's supervisor not only thought it was legitimate, but needed to be looked at right away. Of course Barr being Trump's lawyer instead of our lawyer did nothing and then the supervisor reported it to Congress.

 

[independentusa]

WB laws were written to expose illegal activities in the Intel community. Not to Impeach presidents. What are we supposed to do? Have Schiff tell the House his version of what this WB said and vote on it? Kind of like he did with his Sopranos rendition of the phone call. I think not.

A whistleblower is supposed to report any wrong doing they see or hear about. The WB in this case did so and his supervisor not only thought it to be a legitimate problem, but also though it needed to be looked at immediately. I am sure if this had been Obama, you would have not problem.

 

[independentusa]

He fears two things:

1. He doesn't want to lose his job which is being part of the deep state.

2. He doesn't want people to know that he is a partisan TDS'r

DEEP STATE, what a pile of Trump bullsh*t. Oh, I am so scared of the DEEP STATE. It is just one of those code words Trumpsters use for anyone who does not worship Trump like Trump thinks they should. And how do you know he is partisan, because Trump tells you he is and trump does not know who the WB is. I bet you went after Vindman also, because he is a Dem or part of the DEEP STATE. I would think he does not want people to know because he has received death threats for him and his family from people who do worship at Trump's feet. And in reality, the law supports him. Of course Trumpsters do not think the law applies to them or Trump.

 

[Fletch]

What your president and his Rethuglican minions are doing is no different from a mob boss putting out a hit on a snitch.

(I don't expect you to understand that, but you asked a question so you are going to get an answer.)

We know the names of everyone else who have come forward and given supposedly 'explosive' testimony. What is the WB so afraid of that no one else is?

 

[independentusa]

Wrong again. The Nazis were socialist. That is what the "S" in their party name stood for. Again I am totally opposite of Marxist or socialist.

God, the Nazi's were facists. Just because they called themselves Socialists means nothing. They hated both real socialists and Communists which at that time were the same. Get real and learn some history

 

[Phys251]

We know the names of everyone else who have come forward and given supposedly 'explosive' testimony. What is the WB so afraid of that no one else is?

Already answered that question in post #3. Feel free to read it.

 

[Moderate Right]

If the whistleblower complaint proves to be true, what difference does it make? When your only argument is to call someone names, your argument is really ****ing weak...

If what proves to be true? We already know Trump did the Ukraine call. We already know Ukraine got aid. We already know that Ukraine didn't investigate Biden due to to Trump's call.