If Comey is such a liar..

[Moderate Right]

Ellison represents the extremist left, and has taken positions and stated suspiciously anti-Semitic statements, in additional to cavorting around with vehemently anti-Semitic Rev. Louis Farrakhan, as have many other leaders in the Democratic party.

So little surprise that Dershowitz objects to Ellison.

In the larger view, people like Ellison are supposed to be representing the Democratic party and their leadership, Democratic party values?

Hmm. Okay, if you say so.

Guess he's trying to say that Democratic values are the same as Farrakhan's. He may be right.

 

[Moderate Right]

Comey vs Trump is like a tulip versus a turd pile.

A tulip needs fertilization. Chicken or the egg.

 

[Moderate Right]

Typical...talk about something completely different to deflect the point. I understand more, more everyday why people like me that actually used to look at the candidates not really care what party they from are going to make sure we try to cleanse every R that is currently in government.

Apparently you surrender the point.

 

[Moderate Right]

Trump, his lawyer and half a dozen people in his administration are not being investigated for their political beliefs, it's for the crimes they committed. Aren't you guys supposed to be the "law and order" hawks? Why suspend the law just for the politicians you like?

How do you know that any crimes were committed unless you first go on the political witch hunt?

 

[Moderate Right]

That looks more like a right wing wish list than it does a list of Comey lies.

Wish list? It is a factual list.

 

[Moderate Right]

More laughable tweets from trump this morning. Comey was not looking to land a job with HRC when he blundered into making public pronouncements about the HRC email affair. He already had the job dumbdumb. He was in all likelihood trying to protect the agency from criticism. In any event trump actually congratulated Comey for his actions in the HRC email affair. The ultimate transactional president strikes again.

If anything Comey's actions suggest a political blockhead which is what most FBI agents are when it comes to politics. They view or should view politics through the lens of their jobs as investigators. Beyond that, they are about as clueless politically as it gets. That Comey fancied himself capable of understanding the polls, what they meant, who might win and why and his motivations for his actions are really the most revealing elements of his book other than trump's compete lack of interest in discussing how the country could protect itself from future Russian meddling. So in point of fact, the comments and revelations about his actions around the HRC email affair are the most interesting comments in the book, comments the author willingly makes about himself.

I love how Trump gets you guys running around in circles with his tweets. It's actually quite hilarious watching you guys run around like chickens with your heads cut off.

 

[Moderate Right]

"Billy, look, you just tell them and they believe it. That's it: you just tell them and they believe. They just do."

Is that a quote from Bill Clinton?

 

[apdst]

Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.

Because if he did and it wasn't true, he would be forced to come up with the proof. Then, if he did produce a video, there would be serious questions about how he got it and when he got it.

Comey's a liar. He isn't stupid.

 

[Mr Person]

Is that a quote from Bill Clinton?

It's quote from the man you always defend.

 

[Moderate Right]

What of my posts have you perceived as an attack?

You disagree with him. That is an attack.

 

[JMR]

Ill give you a direct answer: we have no way of knowing since most of what he wrote cannot be verified. Comey, himself, says he doesnt know if the Golden Shower story is true or not. If its not true, we dont know who lied about it--Steele or his source. Further, Steele wasnt hired until after the conservative group dropped the funding for the oppo research. Now how about you answer a direct question?

How is the Clinton camp hiring a foreign agent to collect data on her political opponent from current and former Russian intelligence sources (or, let me phrase it in a way liberals can understand--people close to Putin) not colluding with a foreign power to influence our elections?

Steele was an agent of an ally, who was a specialist in Russian affairs. Trump was a businessman with many ties in Russia. Looking into what your opponent was up to in a foreign country that was actually hostile to the US and its allies sounds like a good plan. Please explain the collusion.

 

[Moderate Right]

It's quote from the man you always defend.

Don't always defend him but there are a whole lot of times I have to defend him from the left's rabid liberal resistance nonsense. Does kind of sound like a quote from Bill Clinton though. If the left wouldn't be so rapid in their anti-Trump resistance, I wouldn't have to defend him so much. I'd rather have honest conversations about the president but that is all but impossible with the rabid left.

 

[Moderate Right]

Steele was an agent of an ally, who was a specialist in Russian affairs. Trump was a businessman with many ties in Russia. Looking into what your opponent was up to in a foreign country that was actually hostile to the US and its allies sounds like a good plan. Please explain the collusion.

Ally? It was a foreign government. I thought it was horrible for a nominee, such as Hillary, to collude with a foreign government to influence our election? The UK has no business influencing our elections.

 

[jnug]

I love how Trump gets you guys running around in circles with his tweets. It's actually quite hilarious watching you guys run around like chickens with your heads cut off.

I am posting in my spare time. What time is trump tweeting in...his executive time? Trump is the one running around doing nothing.

 

[justabubba]

Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.

nope. your partisanship is showing. and the left made itself look foolish by piling on Comey for doing his job diligently back then just as the reich wing is being foolish in its mischaracterizations of him today

the fellow is a good scout. he did his job as he saw it needed to be done. fairly. legally. objectively. ditto for Mueller

 

[JMR]

Ally? It was a foreign government. I thought it was horrible for a nominee, such as Hillary, to collude with a foreign government to influence our election? The UK has no business influencing our elections.

Well, I hope you didn't fall on that giant leap!

Steele was a retired agent of an ally who was working on his own. I had hoped to point out that he learned what he knows of Russian affairs while working for an ally. Not that he was working for an ally. There was no "collusion" with the UK, but nice try.

 

[justabubba]

Comey TRIED, as much as he was able to, forewarn the President of the scandalous scuttlebutt floating around out there in intel land. He was careful to say it was not yet confirmed, or that he even believed any of it, but it was out there, none-the-less.

Was Comey wrong in letting the president know?

If I was in his position, I think it would be my duty to forewarn the POTUS of possible situations.

(Interesting note* It is a masonic obligation to forewarn a brother of impending danger.)

if he is a practicing catholic, following the dogma, then i doubt he is a member of the masonic order:

Days after the dramatic testimony of his firing and dealings with U.S. President Donald Trump, former FBI Director James Comey made an appearance at a Catholic church on Holy Trinity Sunday, accompanying his father to Mass at a New Jersey parish. ...

https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-u...ey-makes-appearance-father-new-jersey-parish/

 

[Moderate Right]

I am posting in my spare time. What time is trump tweeting in...his executive time? Trump is the one running around doing nothing.

I disagree. It is you lefties who are mesmerized by Trump's tweets. He's a person like everyone else. He still has time to do his job, sending messages to Syria, dismantling Obamacare, giving hard working Americans a tax break, improving the economy, cutting down on illegal immigration, fighting ISIS, replacing liberal judges with conservative ones, and on and on.

 

[justabubba]

Why didn't comey tell Trump the dossier was prepared by his political enemies? Give a coherent answer, not rambling nonsense.

remarkably, tRump showed little interest in the origins of the dossier. instead, he and his staff immediately began discussing how it could be spu to their political advantage

i believe the onus would more apply to tRump seeking background on the report from his FBI director

 

[justabubba]

Lying and leaking, that's what you guys are going with? No real substantial corruption?

Embezzlement? Drug trafficking? Something, man.

No one gives a **** that McCabe leaked a story damaging to HRC to the WSJ anymore.

And how many in the Trump WH would stand up to the same examination? How many would be thrown out for the same thing if an equivalent to the OIG investigated them, Trump included? When he himself leaked Israel's sensitive information to the Russian ambassador of all people.


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as most are inclined to observe, the coverup is as important as the circumstance being covered up
from the recent FBI IG report, mccabe covered up
and yes, that's important

 

[justabubba]

"And how many in the Trump WH would stand up to the same examination?" What do you call the over reaching Mueller investigation?

I'll just let the wheels of justice continue their churning on, reaching their own inevitable ends.

The leak that you refer to was within the purview of the office, as much, apparently, as the SoS can declassify materials on the fly in order to keep them on her private email server.

Was the leaking from McCabe within the purview of his office? OIG (appointed by Obama) and the FBI's own Office of Professional Responsibility would disagree.

and you are wrong again. there is no question that it was within mccabe's bailiwick, as deputy FBI director, to make such a disclosure/"leak"

 

[justabubba]

Ill give you a direct answer: we have no way of knowing since most of what he wrote cannot be verified. Comey, himself, says he doesnt know if the Golden Shower story is true or not. If its not true, we dont know who lied about it--Steele or his source. Further, Steele wasnt hired until after the conservative group dropped the funding for the oppo research. Now how about you answer a direct question?

How is the Clinton camp hiring a foreign agent to collect data on her political opponent from current and former Russian intelligence sources (or, let me phrase it in a way liberals can understand--people close to Putin) not colluding with a foreign power to influence our elections?

color me surprised at this very late date you did not know that Fusion GPS, the firm hired by republicans then the clinton camp, was a firm based in washington dc
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/steele-timeline/?utm_term=.426de217c3ff

 

[eohrnberger]

and you are wrong again. there is no question that it was within mccabe's bailiwick, as deputy FBI director, to make such a disclosure/"leak"

Seems to be a fundamental disconnect here someplace.

IG investigators:

A report by the department's inspector general confirmed that investigators concluded McCabe had violated Justice Department policy by authorizing an aide to talk with the Wall Street Journal about the FBI's probe into the Clinton Foundation — and that McCabe had "lacked candor" in discussing the matter afterward inside the Justice Department.
. . . . .
Investigators said McCabe wasn't authorized to have his aide disclose the conversation to the press and that he wasn't "candid" when he talked about the press report with then-FBI Director James Comey or investigators later on. Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on March 16.
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/6023...case-against-fired-deputy-fbi-director-mccabe

 

[eohrnberger]

You disagree with him. That is an attack.

To some, yes, but I'm not so sure in this case, so I had to ask.

 

[justabubba]

Seems to be a fundamental disconnect here someplace.

IG investigators:

here it is. in the report, itself:

Lastly, we determined that as Deputy Director, McCabe was authorized to
disclose the existence of the CF Investigation publicly if such a disclosure fell within
the “public interest” exception in applicable FBI and DOJ policies generally
prohibiting such a disclosure of an ongoing investigation. However, we concluded
that McCabe’s decision to confirm the existence of the CF Investigation through an
anonymously sourced quote, recounting the content of a phone call with a senior
Department official in a manner designed to advance his personal interests at the
expense of Department leadership, was clearly not within the public interest
exception. We therefore concluded that McCabe’s disclosure of the existence of an
ongoing investigation in this manner violated the FBI’s and the Department’s media
policy and constituted misconduct.

https://static01.nyt.com/files/2018/us/politics/20180413a-doj-oig-mccabe-report.pdf

if that was too much to go thru, here is the salient portion:

... McCabe was authorized to disclose the existence of the CF Investigation publicly ...