ICE raids across L.A. spark backlash; Trump officials vow to continue operations

[Grizzly Adams]

Do you think today you might be able to muster up an original thought?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Do you think today you might be able to muster up an original thought?

Why do you support a president who bypasses our laws and constitution?

Hell, why do you support a thief and felon?

 

[snakestretcher]

ICE is going to get someone killed.

Wouldn't be the first time innocent protesters were killed by out of control 'authorities'.

Kent State shootings: The 1970 student protests that shook the US

Fifty-four years ago, four students were shot by the National Guard during an anti-Vietnam War protest at Kent State university in Ohio – a tragedy that still resonates today.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TamleeB]

I watched all those horrible rioters on CNN and FOX today seeing a lot of people standing around carrying signs and Trump needs to send in the riot troops to do what? Does blondie know how many Hispanic live in L.A.? There are a whole bunch of Hispanics in this country legally and how will they vote in the midterms and presidential election....................stat tuned boys & girls.

Ahhh….guess you missed those “peaceful” protesters burning cars, and the American flag.

 

[TamleeB]

I’ve seen a couple of videos that look suspiciously like fakes. People accosting people in the same getups that don’t act or sound like cops. Middle of nowhere pulling over cars and demanding ID.

Can’t tell though because they look exactly like the guys that are supposedly ICE.

For all we know all these folks they picked up are just naked, handcuffed to radiators.

Do you have any actual proof of the video’s being “fake”?

 

[TamleeB]

Wouldn't be the first time innocent protesters were killed by out of control 'authorities'.

Kent State shootings: The 1970 student protests that shook the US

Fifty-four years ago, four students were shot by the National Guard during an anti-Vietnam War protest at Kent State university in Ohio – a tragedy that still resonates today.

www.bbc.co.uk

Would you possibly have anything newer than 45 years ago?

 

[snakestretcher]

Would you possibly have anything newer than 45 years ago?

Is there a statute of limitation on atrocities committed by your National Guard?

 

[TamleeB]

Is there a statute of limitation on atrocities committed by your National Guard?

Nope. Not that I am aware of. Just wondering if you had any more recent “atrocities”. If you don’t, it’s ok.

 

[snakestretcher]

Nope. Not that I am aware of. Just wondering if you had any more recent “atrocities”. If you don’t, it’s ok.

Isn't one enough?

 

[TamleeB]

Isn't one enough?

Enough what? Have there been any “innocent” protesters killed during these unlawful sometimes violent protests? Did I miss something?

 

[Along Came Jones]

Is there a statute of limitation on atrocities committed by your National Guard?

No more so than the memory of British paratroopers killing 13 and injuring 14 Catholic civil rights supporters in Londonderry in January 1972.

I think we ought to stick to today's atrocity propensity.

 

[eohrnberger]

I absolutely did. They show neither their faces nor badges nor markings on their vehicles.

You think you've proved that, but you've proved nothing. Have you never heard of an unmarked police car or a plain clothes policeman?

I was thinking more so in the case of their knocking at the door.

So they could literally be ANYBODY.

Ahh, yeah, riigght. </sarcasm>

I’m Donald trump.

Do as I say.

See how that works?

You raise the man's man in a vain case of irrelevancy.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Why do you support a president who bypasses our laws and constitution?

Hell, why do you support a thief and felon?

What?

 

[eohrnberger]

Thank you for this.

I did find one item that us Liberals strongly believe in, that MAGA just don't get.

It seems MAGA is out-of-touch on this issue by 2:1.

Here:

Why doesn't the hearing which determined the subject in question to be in the country illegally count as a hearing, count as due process?

Seems like allot of these people which ICE wants to deport have had hearings to arrive at the determination of their status already before ICE issues their retainer and acts on their deportation order.

 

[CaughtInThe]

What?

Fox New addict huh?

 

[eohrnberger]

Another poster opined deporting the several million criminals and those with current open deportation orders. Then, working something out for the rest.

I was agreeing with that. I don't think it's right, nor practical, to deport all these individuals.

I'm torn on it, though.

I'm not crazy about rewarding illegal behaviour.

I'm in agreement with this. All you get for it is more illegal behavior.

If something were done to give these individuals status, I would want it to fall short of citizenship.

Green card and work permit? OK.
But the issue is that they've then successfully jumped ahead of all the legal immigrants who went through the proper process.
How is such an arrangement fair to them?

The US should be encouraging people to go through the proper legal process, and NOT jump to the front of the line.

 

[rhinefire]

Ahhh….guess you missed those “peaceful” protesters burning cars, and the American flag.

All I can say is what was broadcast. It was as if Fox did not have their own team because it laughable to listen and watch at the same time. What is disturbing to me is the presence of the flag of Mexico. What is the point of that? I saw another flag that may have been of Venezuela but they should be flying our flag and that would bring more sympathy for their cause.

 

[Lovebug]

I don't understand how you can support these loony Dem fringe people in L.A. etc --- who are supporting illegals, who are hiding there for no reason. Americans don't want that. They want these drug smugglers and rapists and other criminals deported. And even if they are not criminals in the common sense, they are still illegals and therefore criminals again, subject to removal from the country. Why are you tolerating this ? It doesn't make any sense. They are not integrating into American society, they wave their Mexican and Palestinian flags. They live in their own parallel societies, not in the US society. They are turning the streets of L.A into war zones with their chaotic behavior, trashing the city. They are not entitled to stay. And if they remain in the country, these illegals are already plotting their next moves: bring more drugs and meth into the country, ruin even more American families and lives. Murdering and raping more Americans. Real Americans don't want this anymore, that's why they voted for Trump in November and now the D loonies are seeing the results. They should not shield these illegal immigrants, but embrace the law-and-order measures in L.A. - because ultimately it improves their lives too (less drugs, better lifestyle).

Define real American.

 

[JMB1911A1]

One of the local stations had a feed on YouTube covering the protesters on the 101/Ventura Freeway. There were many CHP officers on foot, on the freeway, both sides of the overpass, doing a sweep to clear the lanes. At one point the CHP contingent launched smoke bombs in cans towards the protesters. There was a kick-the-can moment when CHP and protesters were shunting the cans back and forth. (Because of the wind direction, most of the smoke was behind blown back toward the CHP line.) Slow advancement of the CHP line managed to push all the protesters onto the closest on-ramp.

The footage was from a helicopter, and the pilot was commenting on the freeway scene. No mention was made about objects being thrown, just that the CHP was staging under the overpass.

No CHP officer ever appeared in danger as seen from the aerial footage.

Yeah, the rocks and signs just magically fell down and broke CHP windshields. Your rationalization of the violence is remarkable.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Wouldn't be the first time innocent protesters were killed by out of control 'authorities'.

Kent State shootings: The 1970 student protests that shook the US

Fifty-four years ago, four students were shot by the National Guard during an anti-Vietnam War protest at Kent State university in Ohio – a tragedy that still resonates today.

www.bbc.co.uk

The Ohio NG killed 4 at Kent State.

The British Army killed 14 at Derry in 1972.

Bloody Sunday 1972

No single event of the Troubles ignited more controversy than Bloody Sunday, the fatal shooting of 14 civilians in Derry by the British paratroopers.

alphahistory.com

 

[j brown's body]

Yeah, the rocks and signs just magically fell down and broke CHP windshields. Your rationalization of the violence is remarkable.

Trump wants this. This is why he is sending in the Guard. He wants to provoke chaos and violence to score political points and increase the repression.

 

[Emlee]

Trump wants this. This is why he is sending in the Guard. He wants to provoke chaos and violence to score political points and increase the repression.

Absolutely, he’s loving this. It’s Stephen Miller’s dream come true. As is the magasphere.

Note how cult45/47 is now trying so hard to get terms such as “insurrection” and “sedition” to stick. Not hard to figure out why that really is, nothing but flaming phonies and hypocrites.

If I was one of the many peaceful protestors though, who have been out protesting without causing any incidents, I’d be beyond livid right now at the thugs who turned it violent.

There’s been so many peaceful protests, now all wiped away because some goons wanted to set cars on fire, throw boulders off bridges, throw things at cars etc.

Aside from the obvious, that violence is just wrong and there’s never an excuse for it, these idiots are always too stupid to look ahead and see that violence accomplishes nothing but play right into their hands, that it accomplishes nothing but give them exactly what they want.

Does anyone really think this guy, or others with him, actually cares about immigration, or even votes for that matter?



All the peaceful protests and this cretin became the face of the protests.

 

[Pound4abrown]

ICE is going to get someone killed.

Endgame

To hell with LA and the communist that run that city and state.

You are so right, that whole state should just keep their tax money and not forward it to the Feds so they can distribute to Red states.
That'll show em.

 

[j brown's body]

Wouldn't be the first time innocent protesters were killed by out of control 'authorities'.

Kent State shootings: The 1970 student protests that shook the US

Fifty-four years ago, four students were shot by the National Guard during an anti-Vietnam War protest at Kent State university in Ohio – a tragedy that still resonates today.

www.bbc.co.uk

I am sure the Trump administration is aware of thìs:

"A Gallup poll taken the day after the shootings reportedly showed that 58 percent of respondents blamed the students..."

Link

As well as this, concerning the 1968 Democratic Convention:

"In a Gallup poll, 56% approved of the police response to anti-war protestors..."

Link

 

[Pound4abrown]

And that’s all this really boils down to.

These assholes are fulfilling some sick twisted fantasy that they have by sending “ICE agents” into neighborhoods like this.

It’s uncalled for and unnecessary.

If you have warrants, go in and arrest the people you have warrants for. Wear regular uniforms. Wear badges with your names. Show your face. Do your job respectfully and with dignity.

This bullshit? It’s performative nonsense meant to get a reaction and cause violence

Shame on the government for acting in this manner.

Disgusting. Unnecessary. Ridiculous.

And shame on anyone cheering this on or that thinks this is appropriate.

This is the whole Bravery Of Being Out of Range.
I simply cannot imagine Miller going there with the ICE and National Guard, et al to oversee this, he'd likely end up dead.
But sending thugs in, to do his dirty work? Easy-****ing-peasy.