Being here illegally isn't a crime. Unauthorized border crossing is, but for example someone overstaying their visa faces no consequences beyond the possibility of deportation.Other than the crime of being in the country illegally.
Deporting people who have no legal right to be here, is not "demonizing". It's conducting perfectly appropriate deportations.
These individuals have been given the opportunity to leave (with transportation provided) back to the country they came from. This is not suddenly their country because they got away with entering it illegally. If, however, they do leave willingly, some of them will maintain the right to later try to enter via legal means.
This is going to be a list of citations from non-Liberal / Progressive echo chamber media reporting.WHAT EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE? You couldn't invent evidence that would overcome the mountain of incriminating evidence.
The article details Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony during the committee’s sixth hearing on June 28, 2022, describing it as a “big bet” due to its reliance on hearsay. Key hearsay claims include:What hearsay? (Again, this wasn't a court of law, but I think I know where you are going here, and you are wrong.)
They had tons of evidence that led them to their conclusions.
Not so much, per my previous 2 posts.All you have is highly partisan "skepticism".
This wasn't a difficult call. trump was on his way to being convicted in court before he ran out the clock.
You guys are building a lot of your arguments on trump's win, instead of directly addressing the issues. What does it prove?
According to the left any vote not for the Democrat candidate is an idiot voting.That 80 million voters were idiots?
Every election has a lot of voters on the losing end, it doesn't mean they made a bad choice, nor does winning mean you made a good choice.
Because the comparison is utter partisan bullshit and political propaganda.The Hitler comparison is there because he is a pretty undeniable example of an authoritarian. You squeal at the comparison, but won't debate the reasons they are compared.
Is this just simply assumed? Because from what I recall of the reportage of this at the time, there was no clear direction form Trump for Cohen to do this that way.Yeah, at trump's direction. So what?
What does a 2 month time frame have to do with an obvious 'work around' the law?Not nearly two months.
I've made no claim that it wasn't.And work-arounds are perfectly legal.
Citing a known left leaning source with unknown unaccountable editors? OK. You go with that.
This clearly projection.You are "skeptical" to the point of absurdity. No evidence is ever enough for you.
Meh. It might appear so, but then again, the Dem's compliant and complicit MSM propagandists have lied so often to have turned themselves into a joke. The electorate have caught on, and simply don't give those media outlets any credibility, and in fact are starting to hate them, which is fully justified as it is self-inflicted.You eat up the right-wing narrative with the best of them.
Surely you remember that the Supreme Court reviewed the law enacted by that initiative (Save Our State) and declared it unconstitutional.
All that prejudicial ramped up by Wilson inspired Latino activists to voter registration drives in their communities, and for permanent residents to apply for citizenship in order to vote.
No evidence has been presented that California elections have been rigged. If there were evidence, the CA GOP would be filing lawsuits. Unless you maintain that the CA GOP is incompetent.
After Newsom had comfortably won an election there was little expectation that a recall would be successful. Do you not remember the anger at millions of CA tax dollars being wasted on a recall election that was doomed to fail?
So by maintaining — twice — that the LAPD is corrupt, you are effectively refuting your claim that reforms were made prior to the department being brought under a federal consent decree.
Funny, I remember a report by Amnesty International on abuses by the LAPD; that’s how bad the situation was before the Dept of Justice was involved.
I support the rule of law, by federal, state, and municipal governments, and by those living in the U.S.
Government institutions calling for the law to be respected must themselves respect our laws.
I support those who choose non-violent civil disobedience.
Attacks on persons, whether in uniform or civilian, are unacceptable.
I support the first amendment — any flag may be seen in public.
I don’t remember any handwringing when the Pahlavi Iranian lion-and-scimitar flag was present at demonstrations.
Hyperbole acknowledged.
We shall see.
You placed a bad bet.Yes I am.
So go ahead and cite those videos.
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Oh wait, I can cite when you tried peddling that claim before, when you claimed you saw a broadcast video that showed police holding open doors and inviting them into the building.
That was a lie.
Here you go, here’s the link:
I saw the broadcast video where capitol police opened capital door and invited people in on Jan 1/6. Yes.Really? You sure easily swallowed whole this whopper of a lie.
Being here illegally isn't a crime.
Unauthorized border crossing is, but for example someone overstaying their visa faces no consequences beyond the possibility of deportation.
Yes in confrontations of government overreach and violations of posse comitatus involving US soldiers being used against US citizens I side with the people not the government. You got me.
This is going to be a list of citations from non-Liberal / Progressive echo chamber media reporting.
(You need to ask why the non-Liberal / Progressive echo chamber media DIDN'T highlight this side as much as they highlighted the pro-Dem side)
- Suppressed Testimony: The committee allegedly withheld testimony from Anthony Ornato, former White House Deputy Chief of Staff, who said Trump suggested deploying 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the Capitol. The report claims this contradicted the committee’s assertion that Trump “never gave any order to deploy the National Guard” (Fox News, 2024).
- Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony: The report alleges the committee promoted Hutchinson’s “sensational” claim that Trump lunged at his Secret Service detail, despite contradictory testimony from the driver and lead agent Robert Engel, which was not publicized.
- Deleted Records: Loudermilk claimed the committee deleted records and failed to preserve materials, hindering GOP investigations. It also alleged collusion with Fulton County DA Fani Willis to prosecute Trump.
House GOP report alleges Jan 6 committee 'deleted records and hid evidence'
Rep. Barry Loudermilk and GOP House members released a report claiming the Jan. 6 committee "deleted records" and promoted politicization following the breach of the Capitol.www.foxnews.com
Summary: Loudermilk’s report accused the committee of withholding transcripts contradicting key claims, particularly Hutchinson’s testimony about Trump’s behavior in the motorcade. Specifics:
Was that the cop who directed rioters away from nearby escaping congress members saving them and was praised for it? I remember that story.You placed a bad bet.
A media coalition that includes BuzzFeed News had petitioned the court to make the footage public, but that became moot once the government no longer opposed it.)
Here are key moments from the 40 minutes of footage. The full videos are also available below
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New Capitol Surveillance Footage Shows A Breach By Jan. 6 Rioters From Start To Finish
Two 40-minute videos from Jan. 6 show how hundreds of rioters breached one Capitol entry point and how police eventually regained control.www.buzzfeednews.com
I draw you attention to the copied frame of the lower video, where a security person opened that door for a number of civilians to go through.
So much for you accusation of a lie. You can apologize now.
The article details Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony during the committee’s sixth hearing on June 28, 2022, describing it as a “big bet” due to its reliance on hearsay. Key hearsay claims include:
(Again, need to ask why the non-Liberal / Progressive echo chamber media DIDN'T highlight this side as much as they highlighted the pro-Dem side)
- Trump’s Motorcade Altercation: Hutchinson testified that Anthony Ornato, former White House Deputy Chief of Staff, told her Trump lunged at his Secret Service detail and grabbed the steering wheel of “The Beast” when refused transport to the Capitol on January 6, 2021. She also recounted Ornato’s claim that Trump was informed supporters at the Ellipse rally were armed but demanded relaxed security checks.
- Committee’s Acceptance: The committee presented Hutchinson’s account as central evidence of Trump’s intent to join the Capitol riot, despite its secondhand nature. Republicans, via the House Judiciary Committee’s Twitter (@JudiciaryGOP), called it “hearsay” and “a joke,” arguing it lacked corroboration from direct witnesses like the driver or lead agent Robert Engel (Politico, 2022).
- Lack of Pushback: The article notes limited substantive Republican rebuttal to Hutchinson’s specific claims, with Trump dismissing them as false on Truth Social. However, the committee’s final report acknowledged Ornato and Engel didn’t corroborate the lunging incident, suggesting the committee initially accepted Hutchinson’s account without direct confirmation (CNN, 2022).
No point in continuing a conversation when nonexistent facts are used to support an argument.If by the "supreme court" you mean the notorious 9th circuit - I remember. A boot to the face of democracy. That's what democrats offer the nation.
Yet you lost. But instead of accepting the will of the people, you overruled democracy.
ROFL
Yet it was. It was only the rigging of top vote getter that kept him in office. The majority of voters chose to recall him. But once again the party rigged the election so that instead of a recall, there had to be a majority replacement.
Nonsense. Significant reforms have been made.
AI has no credibility. What they claim is irrelevant.
Clearly not - as you support this insurrection.
The city of Los Angeles and the State of California are breaking federal law, wantonly.
Non-violent...
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Then you condemn this insurrection - that you are supporting.
Okay. Still when you wave the Hamas flag, or the Mexican flag at a riot - it has significant meaning. The Brown Shirts of your party in Los Angeles wave both.
When was this? And the insurrection is not a "demonstration" but violent rioting.
4 out of 5 Americans agree, democrats suck.
You placed a bad bet.
A media coalition that includes BuzzFeed News had petitioned the court to make the footage public, but that became moot once the government no longer opposed it.)
Here are key moments from the 40 minutes of footage. The full videos are also available below
View attachment 67574189
New Capitol Surveillance Footage Shows A Breach By Jan. 6 Rioters From Start To Finish
Two 40-minute videos from Jan. 6 show how hundreds of rioters breached one Capitol entry point and how police eventually regained control.www.buzzfeednews.com
I draw you attention to the copied frame of the lower video, where a security person opened that door for a number of civilians to go through.
So much for you accusation of a lie. You can apologize now.
There are ways to enter a country legally, then become illegal.Overstay your visa? Elon Musk, anyone?
Not liberal logic, just logic.
Was that the cop who directed rioters away from nearby escaping congress members saving them and was praised for it? I remember that story.
You've got that one flipped around.
Being here illegally isn't a crime. Unauthorized border crossing is, but for example someone overstaying their visa faces no consequences beyond the possibility of deportation.
Absolutely.Yep, deportation, as I’ve said earlier.
No point in continuing a conversation when nonexistent facts are used to support an argument.
A claim that the LAPD is today controlled by gangs, but has been reformed is nonsensical.
There are deputy gangs in the LA County Sheriff’s Department, but again composed of deputies. Nothing to do with street gangs.
The claim of rigged elections in California but with not one organization stepping forward to challenge the results in court — doesn’t ring true.
One of the premier international NGOs, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, lacks credibility.
Must not live nor work near Tehrangeles if the Pahlavi Iranian flag hasn’t been seen. (Can elicit cries of “savak” when sighted.)
Must not have been in the area in 1992 if the recent scenes in DTLA look like an insurrection. And the term insurrection was not used for the chaos in 1992.
I leave you to your fanciful interpretation of current events. I prefer living in a fact-based world.
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