• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

ICE agents denied entry to Dodger Stadium

In our defence, CBP is for the border, and there’s no border anywhere near LA. In fact, they only showed up there because they needed a place to park their cars.

They aren’t supposed to be operating there, they have no base of operations because they aren’t supposed to be there.

Oh right, Trump is ordering them to harass, intimidate, and terrorize civilians in blue areas. He’s using the federal government as a weapon against American citizens. And his bootlicking supporters love it.

Reads like some bad mushrooms.
 
The family in Florida had their day in court. They lost. They refused to turn Elian over to his custodial father and inferred they would stir up violence.
I agree they had to turn him over and a warrant valid, but I disagree with them going in looking like they were after Chapo Guzman
 
They're kidnapping peaceful people at elementary school graduations, home depot, and outside courtrooms, I don't think they need violence as a pretext to start rounding people up, if they did have permission from the business.
But...to declare martial law...
 
But...to declare martial law...

Nobody is gonna declare martial law off a brawl in a stadium parking lot.

That'll probably come when ICE pisses off all the other blue cities Trump and Miller want to send ICE after.
 
For the folks screaming it was CBP…some observations
1. Border Patrol is restricted to 100 miles from the border. LA is 159 miles away
2. Border Patrol is required to wear a uniform and it has to say Border Patrol.
3. One of those agents has a visible tattoo and they have a policy of no visible tattoos.
4. BP has to wear a green border patrol baseball cap.

None of them fit BP standards. So either these are imposters or they are ICE, ERO, HSI …so, which is it?
Btw, CBP, ICE, ERO, HSI all are agencies under DHS and they work together
 
For the folks screaming it was CBP…some observations
1. Border Patrol is restricted to 100 miles from the border. LA is 159 miles away
2. Border Patrol is required to wear a uniform and it has to say Border Patrol.
3. One of those agents has a visible tattoo and they have a policy of no visible tattoos.
4. BP has to wear a green border patrol baseball cap.

None of them fit BP standards. So either these are imposters or they are ICE, ERO, HSI …so, which is it?
Btw, CBP, ICE, ERO, HSI all are agencies under DHS and they work together
Excellent observations to bring to the discussion, but wouldn't it be more helpful to ask those folks that published that article what is going on? I could, but as soon as their tech admin sees my Japanese IP address they'll put me on a back burner and it'll be days before they answer; if they answer at all.
 
Why was Customs and Border Patrol trying to get into an inland sports stadium? Is the stadium located along a national border? Is there a customs checkpoint somewhere within it?
Possibly, a game day bloc of bleacher seats became available?
I dunno........
 
For the folks screaming it was CBP…some observations
1. Border Patrol is restricted to 100 miles from the border. LA is 159 miles away
2. Border Patrol is required to wear a uniform and it has to say Border Patrol.
3. One of those agents has a visible tattoo and they have a policy of no visible tattoos.
4. BP has to wear a green border patrol baseball cap.

None of them fit BP standards. So either these are imposters or they are ICE, ERO, HSI …so, which is it?
Btw, CBP, ICE, ERO, HSI all are agencies under DHS and they work together
It’s an open secret that Trump is hiring bounty hunters, like the terrorists he pardoned.

That’s why they’re concealing their identities, wearing face masks, no badges, refusing to give their name or badge number, and aiming their guns at people for taking pictures.

These are not all trained federal agents.
 
You mean like the first lady did?

Bitch that she is.
Melania seems only interested in making money off the title First Lady.

Without a doubt the laziest woman to ever hold the title, even worse than Bess Truman..
 

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents attempted to access Dodger Stadium on Thursday morning but were denied entry by the team.

Good. If they want access to private property they need to get a warrant or buzz off
I am in favor of deporting those that are not in the US legally. There is a legal process, one of them being the need for a warrant to enter private property. This needs to be done by the books,
 
Difficult to distinguish masked impersonators from masked ICE agents.
"Multiple ICE impersonation arrests made during nationwide immigration crackdown"

ICE agents hiding their faces is an open invitation for vigilante MAWA extremists (sorry that's redundant) to follow suit. It gives nativists the means to take matters into their own hands.

By definition, ICE agents have become Trump's secret police...

"Secret police" typically refers to a clandestine law enforcement agency that operates outside of the established legal framework and public scrutiny, often with broad powers to suppress dissent and maintain the power of a ruling regime. These organizations are frequently associated with authoritarian or totalitarian states."
 
So wait. You guys are modeling yourselves after Janet Reno?

You sure you don't want to take a minute to think about that?
She wore sensible shoes and had a really great BBQ recipe she tried out in the Waco, Texas cook off.
 
Last edited:
I quoted ICE's response. They said they weren't there. That was the correction.


What?
The government’s statements aren’t exactly trustworthy on their face right now and should not be used as evidence without independent verification.
 
But...to declare martial law...
There is no federal martial law.

No one in the federal government can declare martial law.

There's no law and nothing in the Constitution to enable or authorize a federal martial law.

Governors can do it in their states, but the Potus has no authority to implement martial law.

Trump was really bummed out when he heard this. The feds not able to impose martial law precludes a Constitutional crisis between the military that won't do it and the Blood Lusting Generalissimo Trump who wants civilian American blood in the streets of America.
 
Not intentional. The report was based on photos and the team's post.
Just a point of address because I keep seeing it:

The franchise owners make the decisions.

The "team" are employees who have their contracts with the franchise to play and so on. So the "team" is not the decision making authority and not the corporate executives who run the stadium and the ball club that includes the team of employed players. While one can see the whole as a "team" the decisions are with the franchise owners.

I apologize if this seems "picky" but it's the franchise that owns the whole kit and kaboodle and that calls all the shots. The "team" are the players paid to play the game and who hit shots into the outfield grandstands. :)
 
It’s all good. Turn that frown upside down.
In June 2020 the Generalissimo Trump ordered the SecDef Mark Esper the West Point grad to shoot unarmed civilian peaceful demonstrators at Lafayette Park across from the WH. Esper and Gen. Milley said a loud NO.

The Generalissimo Trump is the President/Commander in Chief who lusts for civilian American blood in the streets.

Troops deployed in LA won't do it either, shoot unarmed civilian protest demonstrators. Which makes it hard for MAGAs to turn their frown upside down.
 
Even if true, perhaps the red states aren't the ones with the open border policies and thus more attractive to illegal immigrants?
There are none, and never were any "open border policies". That's a lie promulgated by your liar-in-chief. Of course you're free to link us to official documentation confirming your claim.
 
Back
Top Bottom