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And yet the midterms are shaking up to be the same "shellacking" Obama and Clinton got.
I get the idea to blame it all on something else, protect who you support, but it is not looking good for the voters to agree with your view of them.
I just find absurd the suggestion that the problem is that Biden is spending too much time pushing Medicare for All. This is alternate universe stuff.
Not Biden, I never said that, now you are being dishonest.
What I said was Democrats trying this Medicare for All dozens of times over to varying degrees of failure.
You cited the example of Clinton and Obama, presumably because you know people vote based on what the President is doing. Biden and the Dems will be known for the Rescue Plan, the infrastructure bill, and Build Back Better. Medicare for All isn't even a footnote in this Congress.
I cited what happened to them, and I cited why. Again you are intentionally misrepresenting what I said.
And now you want to talk about something other than Medicare for All.
Your attempt to hide from this is noted.
no way jose ..... always a conservative right wing nut asking for more than necessary.Come on man, lets be serious. How about a boob job and a face lift in there.
some strong points of the health insurance for all ......... over and above health care= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check
WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.
H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.
H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.
The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.
Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.
One of my very good friends has NJ Medicaid for her children (they meet the income guidelines)
This is a government program…so like what you’re describing
And guess what? She can’t find a doctor, dentist, urgent care within 25 miles that will accept it (Aetna Family Care of NJ or something like that) because providers aren’t receiving payment from the plan in the agreed upon timeframe.
I honestly don’t know the percentage.Do you suspect that the crack your friend's kids fell through applies to
5%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
80%
or 90% of NJ Medicaid recipients?
If it's five or ten percent, well, all I can say is, perfection is mighty difficult and that's probably as good as it gets, and your friend will have to drive farther.
My SON has LA Care, part of the Covered California Medicaid system, and with his five major heart defects, the only hospital sophisticated enough to treat him
is UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center in Westwood, which is West Los Angeles...a guaranteed one hour commute each way from Whittier, two hours or more if it's rush hour.
There's a CRAP TON of hospitals around us, all within one to five miles, but the kind of cardiologist he needs has to specialize in treating Fontan patients, and at 26 years of age,
HIS Fontan is described as a FAILING Fontan, meaning that he's under the gun to get in good enough shape to be a heart transplant candidate.
It doesn't get any better than that for MY son either, but we're grateful that we can get any treatment at all, because had it not been for the S-CHIP program when he was a toddler,
and the ACA a few years ago, he'd have been buried in the ground a long time ago...like at age four most likely.
I honestly don’t know the percentage.
And wow…26 and Fontan. That’s amazing. I hope he gets his transplant!
Random thought - but what about an exercise bike? We got my in laws one when they needed to exercise/lose weight but couldn’t really walk much post knee replacement. I know the two conditions are no way related…but it helped them some when they weren’t able to get out walking around.It's a tough corner he's painted into because his heart cannot maintain the 130 bpm/20 mins+ required for aerobic fat burning, and his club foot won't let him walk more than about 200 feet without pain.
He needs to drop about 65 more pounds, but it's the same 65 extra pounds that have haunted him since about age 10.
He's managed to lose 115 pounds this year but he is hitting the brick wall now.
Anyway, the point I was getting at is, while I feel sorry about your friend and their kids, no plan or system is going to work for everyone.
Our optometrist has been hurt by the ACA and yet the reason we even have enough money to even consider getting updated eyeglasses is because we didn't
get hammered by Daryl's massive "non-covered" medical bills.
It's why I voted for Obama the first time. I'm still waiting.= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check
WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.
H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.
H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.
The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.
Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.
In the early Obama campaign he was going to push for it. Late in the campaign he was backing away from it.It's why I voted for Obama the first time. I'm still waiting.
well said ..... national single payer healthcare is inevitable......Obamacare and Medicare must be expanded to cover all citizens for whatever is needed.....the insurance industry contributes only cost to the situation but could be converted into a productive part of both the ACA and Medicare......remove the monthly and annual insurance premiums that Americans pay (and is essentially worthless with the gigantic deductibles) convert these payments to a single payer tax......corporations and businesses should not be burdened with the healthcare costs of their employees......here again all this does is add cost to the bottom line of the product which is then passed on to we consumers.......= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check
WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.
H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.
H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.
The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.
Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.
That's your priority?Come on man, lets be serious. How about a boob job and a face lift in there.
I have a few gf's that would answer "yes!" to that question. lolThat's your priority?
The above just simply makes sense no matter whether one is rich or poor ......... it is smart economics.= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check
WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.
H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.
H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.
The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.
Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.
Why do some want to pay for the privilege of paying too much? over and over and over and over and over= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check
WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.
H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.
H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.
The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.
Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.
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