I want my tax dollars to pay! = never lose insurance coverage for any reason and insurance industry does not dictate which doctor or care facility

[Razoo]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.

H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.

H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.

Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.

 

[Exquisitor]

Let's do it.

 

[Integrityrespec]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.

H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.

H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.

Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.

Come on man, lets be serious. How about a boob job and a face lift in there.

 

[aociswundumho]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry

So capitalism is superior to socialism?

= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

No, that does the opposite of keep healthcare providers in check.

 

[Mycroft]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.

H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.

H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.

Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.

H.R. 676? Are you sure?

Text - H.R.676 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Learning Recovery Act of 2021

Text for H.R.676 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Learning Recovery Act of 2021

www.congress.gov

 

[Mycroft]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.

H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.

H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.

Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.

Yeah, yeah...I know what you are REALLY talking about...H.R. 676 from 2003. A bill that has died in committee EVERY TIME it has been reintroduced since then.

Medicare for All Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RetiredUSN]

= I want my tax dollars to pay!
= Never losing health insurance for any reason
= Bankruptcy due to health care would be history
= Health Care remains private industry
= Health Care Providers ALWAYS get paid thus keeping cost of healthcare in check

WHEREAS, H.R. 676 would cover every person in the U.S. for all necessary medical care including:
prescription drugs
hospital
surgical
outpatient services
primary and preventive care
emergency services
dental
mental health
home health
physical therapy
rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
vision care
chiropractic
long-term care.

H.R. 676 ends deductibles and co-payments.

H.R. 676 would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

The transition to national health insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved coverage for all.

Approximately 2.6 million jobs will become available through Single Payer Insurance = pays for itself.

It seems that the current congress disagrees with your wishes here under the current proposal?

Biden spending bill's proposed cuts to hospital funding draw scrutiny

Republican Florida Sen. Rick Scott and other critics are pushing back on a portion of President Biden’s Build Back Better Act that would cut hospital funding across predominantly right-leaning states, according to a report Monday.

www.foxbusiness.com

House version of the bill includes a cut in payments to hospitals that serve Medicaid patients in 12 states​

 

[Individual]

Shouldn't this threads title have began with the words "I want YOUR tax dollars to pay!" ?

 

[BirdinHand]

One of my very good friends has NJ Medicaid for her children (they meet the income guidelines)

This is a government program…so like what you’re describing


And guess what? She can’t find a doctor, dentist, urgent care within 25 miles that will accept it (Aetna Family Care of NJ or something like that) because providers aren’t receiving payment from the plan in the agreed upon timeframe.

 

[vegas giants]

One of my very good friends has NJ Medicaid for her children (they meet the income guidelines)

This is a government program…so like what you’re describing


And guess what? She can’t find a doctor, dentist, urgent care within 25 miles that will accept it (Aetna Family Care of NJ or something like that) because providers aren’t receiving payment from the plan in the agreed upon timeframe.

In this system they would all take it....because they would have to

 

[Manc Skipper]

Come on man, lets be serious. How about a boob job and a face lift in there.

If you need them, why not?

 

[BirdinHand]

In this system they would all take it....because they would have to

Would they? How many would opt to only take certain plans. (NJ apparently has several Medicaid plans to choose from). How many would opt to only take private insurance?

I’ve seen Medicare for seniors and how those plans aren’t universally accepted and how seniors need additional supplemental, etc plans…and now I’ve seen my friend struggle with Medicaid.

Neither gives me the warm fuzzy about having government involved in healthcare.

And then what happens when Congress can’t pass a budget at some point? Does health insurance get held up? Do people potentially lose healthcare coverage because a budget can’t be agreed upon?

I don’t trust the government enough to want my families health insurance managed by them.

 

[Greenbeard]

And guess what? She can’t find a doctor, dentist, urgent care within 25 miles that will accept it (Aetna Family Care of NJ or something like that) because providers aren’t receiving payment from the plan in the agreed upon timeframe.

I'm pretty sure the OP wants to destroy the private insurance industry (e.g., Aetna), not hand his favored program over to it.

 

[BirdinHand]

I'm pretty sure the OP wants to destroy the private insurance industry (e.g., Aetna), not hand his favored program over to it.

That’s even worse. Private insurance will still need to exist (as it does in European nations and Canada) to cover procedures not covered by the government -

 

[Greenbeard]

That’s even worse.

How is it worse? If your example is true, Aetna is pocketing a premium from the state of New Jersey to slow walk payments to providers and deliver zero services to your friend's family.

 

[BirdinHand]

How is it worse? If your example is correct, Aeta is pocketing a premium from the state of New Jersey to slow walk payments to providers and deliver zero services to your friend's family.

Aetna doesn’t seem to be the problem - it’s getting payment from the state that I understood was the problem.

The providers accept regular Aetna plans - not the state backed Medicaid plan.

So, that means to me that the problem isn’t the insurance carrier/provider but the state that isn’t paying their bills.

 

[OrphanSlug]

This has been pushed for a very long time now, and as others have pointed out the effort usually dies in committee.

If Democrats want to play a little diversion they can try this card to force healthcare being an issue people should be thinking about, but since things are not looking so good for the midterms they may want to focus on what seems to be on the voter's minds these days.

The economy and inflation concerns, coronavirus and variants concerns, violence and divisions concerns, etc.

But hell no, let's resurrect a dead bill some 20 times over or more and try that again.

This is why Democrats lose, and in recent history hand their President one hell of a midterm "shellacking."

 

[Greenbeard]

Aetna doesn’t seem to be the problem - it’s getting payment from the state that I understood was the problem.

The providers accept regular Aetna plans - not the state backed Medicaid plan.

So, that means to me that the problem isn’t the insurance carrier/provider but the state that isn’t paying their bills.

The state doesn't pay the providers' bills, it just pays Aetna a monthly premium, like clockwork. A quick search doesn't turn up any lawsuits or state auditor reports that would suggest the state isn't keeping up its end of the contract. So, again, if your story is true, it sounds like Aetna is the problem. And the substantial difference in NCQA's access ratings ("getting care easily") of Aetna' Medicaid product in New Jersey and Anthem's would support that.

Maybe Aetna is just terrible (see below example from Pennsylvania's Medicaid program).

Nurse whistleblower says Aetna took Medicaid money and failed to provide care to poor children

Aetna’s network appeared robust on paper, but it included doctors who had died or moved out of state, a whistleblower found. The insurer denies the allegations.

www.inquirer.com

 

[Greenbeard]

This is why Democrats lose, and in recent history hand their President one hell of a midterm "shellacking."

They lose because a relatively small band of activists like to talk about Medicare for All a lot, particularly on the internet? That doesn't seem quite right.

 

[OrphanSlug]

They lose because a relatively small band of activists like to talk about Medicare for All a lot, particularly on the internet? That doesn't seem quite right.

Try to pay attention, the 117th Congress (as in the present Congress) and more specifically Jayapal and Dingell tried to pick up the Medicare for All Act... again... for consideration and it died... again.

How have you not picked up on this already?

 

[Greenbeard]

Try to pay attention, the 117th Congress (as in the present Congress) and more specifically Jayapal and Dingell tried to pick up the Medicare for All Act... again... for consideration and it died... again.

How have you not picked up on this already?

And? Thousands of bills are introduced in every session of Congress and almost all go nowhere. The Medicare for All bill has been around in some form for 20 years. Makes no sense to lament that a positioning bill that’s getting no committee time is distracting resources from other issues.

 

[Individual]

How many more tries before it's passed?

 

[OrphanSlug]

And? Thousands of bills are introduced in every session of Congress and almost all go nowhere. The Medicare for All bill has been around in some form for 20 years. Makes no sense to lament that a positioning bill that’s getting no committee time is distracting resources from other issues.

Which is the point, not enough traction and not enough political support... i.e. the voters are not pushing it, so they will hand the keys over to someone more interested in issues important to them.

 

[Greenbeard]

Which is the point, not enough traction and not enough political support... i.e. the voters are not pushing it, so they will hand the keys over to someone more interested in issues important to them.

Your average voter has no idea who Jayapal is or what H.R. 1976 is. If anyone votes based on legislation, it’ll be about the American Rescue Plan and Build Back Better (I.e., the things Congress is actually doing), not obscure issues bills that are only of interest to activists.

“I was going to vote for the Dems, but then a Congresswoman from Washington state introduced a bill that’s not a priority for me,” said no voter ever.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Your average voter has no idea who Jayapal is or what H.R. 1976 is. If anyone votes based on legislation, it’ll be about the American Rescue Plan and Build Back Better (I.e., the things Congress is actually doing), not obscure issues bills that are only of interest to activists.

“I was going to vote for the Dems, but then a Congresswoman from Washington state introduced a bill that’s not a priority for me,” said no voter ever.

And yet the midterms are shaking up to be the same "shellacking" Obama and Clinton got.

I get the idea to blame it all on something else, protect who you support, but it is not looking good for the voters to agree with your view of them.