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I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul

I do not want to rely on the town "doing the right thing"...I want it illeglal for them to not serve me or my family.

You would give blatant racists your business simply because they are being forced to serve you? That would be an awkward meal to say the least.
 
Interesting discussion for those who have the time.

@Catawba a treat for you at @9:45

 
Bruce Bartlett makes a good point about the CRA and free market arguments. I am not going to castrate Paul over his views of the CRA like some here. In fact, I appreciate his stance and provocation to make us think deeply about these issues.

However, resorting to free market arguments that racism could eventually be solved is naive. Even non-racist business owners had the incentive to be racist due to societal pressures - they would have lost a lot of 'white business at the expense of 'black' business due to societal pressures.

This idea that the free market would have eventually corrected itself warrants skepticism. However, Paul's stance is also valid - that the federal government cannot prevent racism. Employers can easily get around the CRA and EOE acts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply naive.
 
Bruce Bartlett makes a good point about the CRA and free market arguments. I am not going to castrate Paul over his views of the CRA like some here. In fact, I appreciate his stance and provocation to make us think deeply about these issues.

However, resorting to free market arguments that racism could eventually be solved is naive. Even non-racist business owners had the incentive to be racist due to societal pressures - they would have lost a lot of 'white business at the expense of 'black' business due to societal pressures.

This idea that the free market would have eventually corrected itself warrants skepticism. However, Paul's stance is also valid - that the federal government cannot prevent racism. Employers can easily get around the CRA and EOE acts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply naive.

Ah, I found his full article.

The Trouble With the '64 Civil Rights Act by Rep. Ron Paul - Lew Rockwell

The Trouble With the '64 Civil Rights Act

by Ron Paul

Recently by Ron Paul: More Blank Checks to the Military Industrial Complex


On June 4, 2004, Congress hailed the 40th anniversary of the 1964 Act. Only the heroic Ron Paul dissented. Here are his comments.

Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my objection to H.Res. 676. I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society.

This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. The framers of the Constitution intended the interstate commerce clause to create a free trade zone among the states, not to give the federal government regulatory power over every business that has any connection with interstate commerce.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.

Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I join the sponsors of H.Res. 676 in promoting racial harmony and individual liberty, the fact is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not accomplish these goals. Instead, this law unconstitutionally expanded federal power, thus reducing liberty. Furthermore, by prompting raced-based quotas, this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife. Therefore, I must oppose H.Res. 676.

See the Ron Paul File

July 3, 2004

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

The Best of Ron Paul

Hopefully everyone gets a chance to read it. I don't blame people whom still find it distasteful to say the least. But he does have a valid stance and I challenge those who don't like it to learn about him and his beliefs. You may like him, may still feel the same, or he can cure your apathy like he's done for me.

Not to side step this discussion but at the end of the day, we have a looming economic crisis. It could lead to the dollar collapsing if not handle correctly. Every top tier candidate and our president I found to be inept with handling it except for Paul. I will guarantee that if Ron Paul isn't our next president, except the worst. I would bet money on it but by the time that happens, the dollar would have become useless XD.



If you're wondering about some of the timeline
1987- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)
1996- Madeleine Albright Defends Mass-Murder of iraqi Children (500,000 Children dead) - YouTube
1998 - Bombing of Iraq (December 1998) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and that's only the tipping point.
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I'm curious what you think of the Ron Paul Survival Report, Jason
 
I'm curious what you think of the Ron Paul Survival Report, Jason

Did a paulite pissed in that dude cereal? XD Talk about angry. Being serious, it's hard to take someone seriously when 90% of his blog posts are flaming the odd bunch of his supporters and name calling his base. I don't make it a habit myself personally to name call the supporters if I don't like the candidate. Just shows that person is grasping for straws or purposely antagonizing which I rarely play to unless it's serious.

The three things I usually hear are the civil rights, the letters he didn't write, and the earmarks from a generality stand point. Everything else is just a back forth issue on policy. Although Paul isn't perfect, he's done more things right then the current top two candidates by far. Patriot act X, Tarp X, Glass Stegall +, Iraq War X, Fed X, Capitalism +, Corporatism X
 
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Did a paulite pissed in that dude cereal? XD Talk about angry. Being serious, it's hard to take someone seriously when 90% of his blog posts are flaming the odd bunch of his supporters and name calling his base. I don't make it a habit myself personally to name call the supporters if I don't like the candidate. Just shows that person is grasping for straws or purposely antagonizing which I rarely play to unless it's serious.
Whoa, calm down dude. What are you even talking about?

The three things I usually hear are the civil rights, the letters he didn't write, and the earmarks from a generality stand point. Everything else is just a back forth issue on policy. Although Paul isn't perfect, he's done more things right then the current top two candidates by far. Patriot act X, Tarp X, Glass Stegall +, Iraq War X, Fed X, Capitalism +, Corporatism X

You're just rambling, I don't even know what you're talking about
 
the blog you reference.

Edit: Sorry, you're probably referring to something else i am unaware of as if you google ron paul survival report, it shows a nasty blog. Are you referring to the newsletter?
 
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Sure. Why not. Vote for Ron Paul. He's the last president we'll ever elect. Welcome to Western Somalia!
 
Somebody voted for Obama and now they plan on voting for Ron Paul? Can we say "clueless", kids?

That's like saying they listened to Coldplay but now they listen to Insane Clown Posse.
 
Anyone who looks into what Ron Paul is really about and listens to the man, you would be a fool to vote for him as president. He needs to have some kind of Governemnt position in mhy opinion, but NOT president. Not even close.
 
Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?
 
Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?

:lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo
 
Somebody voted for Obama and now they plan on voting for Ron Paul? Can we say "clueless", kids?

That's like saying they listened to Coldplay but now they listen to Insane Clown Posse.

I would say going from Obama to Paul is like listening to Rebecca Black/Justin Bieber but now they listen to the Beatles or Queen. You've been lowering your IQ with garbage music for so long that you get mind **** when you finally hear something with substance.

When Obama said "Change" but nobody understood what that Change would entail. Well, that change was Ron Paul.

 
Sure. Why not. Vote for Ron Paul. He's the last president we'll ever elect. Welcome to Western Somalia!
Somebody voted for Obama and now they plan on voting for Ron Paul? Can we say "clueless", kids?

That's like saying they listened to Coldplay but now they listen to Insane Clown Posse.
Anyone who looks into what Ron Paul is really about and listens to the man, you would be a fool to vote for him as president. He needs to have some kind of Governemnt position in mhy opinion, but NOT president. Not even close.
Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?
LOL! Four empty insults in a row, you guys are on a roll!
 
Found a cool four part interview with Jim Rogers, station owner in Nevada. I dunno if it was design to be four parts or if Jim took a liking to Paul.





Also on Nov 5th, will be holding another sign bomb. The one on the 10th was pretty successful.





Nov 11th, will be holding a Support Them Now (troops) Money Bomb
(no official vid yet)




Ron Paul's Veterans Day "Support Them Now" Money Bomb - SupportThemNow.com - November 11, 2011

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How can you allege support for Ron Paul a small gov't, Constitutional originalist at the same time you say you could vote for Obama a big gov't progressive who thinks the Constitution should be rewritten? It seems very bipolar.

I will vote for Paul if he gets the Repub. nomination but I won't be happy about it. His views on foreign affairs are straight out of the Neville Chamberlain School of We Can All Get Along. Tyrants like Ahmadinajad, Chavez and Bashar al-Assadin don't play nice.
 
I will vote for Paul if he gets the Repub. nomination but I won't be happy about it. His views on foreign affairs are straight out of the Neville Chamberlain School of We Can All Get Along. Tyrants like Ahmadinajad, Chavez and Bashar al-Assadin don't play nice.

There is nothing from stopping from you and your fellow neocons waging mindless wars on your own dime.
 
LOL! Four empty insults in a row, you guys are on a roll!

Insults!?!?!?!? You seem to confuse insightful wisdom with insults. It has been my experience that the Randroids who use the Pauls as pin-up boys are more akin to religious acolytes than they are to actual political supporters.

Ron or Rand or any of them need badly to run for President in 2012 on a Libertarian Party ticket.
 
"Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?"

If you really think that's "insightful wisdom" then you need to be diagnosed.

It has been my experience that the Randroids who use the Pauls as pin-up boys are more akin to religious acolytes than they are to actual political supporters.
Good thing they aren't the ones running for President, huh?
 
"Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?"

If you really think that's "insightful wisdom" then you need to be diagnosed.


Good thing they aren't the ones running for President, huh?

freedom scares the living crap out of those who are dependent on the welfare state
 
LOL! Four empty insults in a row, you guys are on a roll!

as I noted, its the sign of terror. a libertarian government would end the public teat that some have grown fat sucking from or gained power by holding the handle to the valve that controls the flow of tax funded milk
 
freedom scares the living crap out of those who are dependent on the welfare state

FREEDOM used as a vapid and meaningless cliche in a ideological war by the far right to subvert America to their unique form of patriotic corporate fascism scares the hell out of me.
 
"Ron Paul is the answer to the question about if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?"

If you really think that's "insightful wisdom" then you need to be diagnosed.


Good thing they aren't the ones running for President, huh?

Look Binary, I get it that devotees, sycophants and toadies of a particular belief system feel personally insulted when the non true believers fail to give their adopted icons the same reverence they themselves lavish upon them.
 
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