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I think we need to consider more nuclear energy

Take our best options for nuclear waste, and then improve them a bit for how we are working to do that, and tell me specifically what the catastrophic harm to people or the planet is.

What best options? Improve what? America is sitting on 80,000 metric tons of nuclear waste that can barely be moved, cannot be disposed of, and at best can only be stored inside a mountain and pray to GOD that it does not leak. No one wants it in their backyard. I'm not an expert on nuclear waste (or post-apocalyptic nuclear hellscapes), but my understanding is that it if it explodes or leaks, it creates a considerable radius of anti-life that will outlive the human species by hundreds of thousands of years.

Watch the John Oliver video. It's been problem without a solution for decades, with no solution in sight.
 
now we are at relatively safe...

OK, and so is coal, so is wind, so is wind and so will be the oceans power if we ever get around to harnessing it.

Sorry, radiation is a wholly unacceptable risk. No matter how good a record nuclear has.

peace

Solar kills more people than nuclear.
 
Nuclear has been deemed the safest source of energy by almost every single source there is, off of credible research.

and the highest long term risk, thanks

like I said, I can choose criteria to yield any results I want too.

peace
 
There is nothing clean about nuclear power. Here again comes the name KOCH because they own a uranium processing plant is some beautiful eastern oklahoma hills that has been associated with nuke
health problems. Can we say carcinogenic. WE have to think about the people making a living in that toxic atmosphere.
 
What best options? Improve what? America is sitting on 80,000 metric tons of nuclear waste that can barely be moved, cannot be disposed of, and at best can only be stored inside a mountain and pray to GOD that it does not leak. No one wants it in their backyard. I'm not an expert on nuclear waste (or post-apocalyptic nuclear hellscapes), but my understanding is that it if it explodes or leaks, it creates a considerable radius of anti-life that will outlive the human species by hundreds of thousands of years.

Watch the John Oliver video. It's been problem without a solution for decades, with no solution in sight.

I know you're not an expert on nuclear waste, which is why you're spouting utter nonsense like the bold text.

If the half-life is hundreds of thousands of years, it's not very radioactive.

There is a solution. The waste can be recycled. 99% of it can be turned back into usable fuel. Did you know that?
 
now we are at relatively safe...

OK, and so is coal, so is wind, so is wind and so will be the oceans power if we ever get around to harnessing it.

Sorry, radiation is a wholly unacceptable risk. No matter how good a record nuclear has.

peace
No, coal is not. Neither are those that are actual reliable sources, stable sources.

Radiation is literally all around us. It is a necessity of life. Unsafe levels of radiation are taken into account and have other sources besides nuclear power.

 
No, coal is not. Neither are those that are actual reliable sources, stable sources.

Radiation is literally all around us. It is a necessity of life. Unsafe levels of radiation are taken into account and have other sources besides nuclear power.


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and the highest long term risk, thanks

like I said, I can choose criteria to yield any results I want too.

peace
It isn't considered the highest long term risk though. We have addressed most of the potential issues with nuclear power, nuclear accidents. Especially with new reactors, Thorium reactors and NextGen reactors.
 
now we are at relatively safe...

OK, and so is coal, so is wind, so is wind and so will be the oceans power if we ever get around to harnessing it.

Sorry, radiation is a wholly unacceptable risk. No matter how good a record nuclear has.

peace

Hahahahah coal kills literally a hundred thousand times as many people as nuclear.
 
The primary issue with using nuclear power is that at present, we have no safe long term storage options for the nuclear waste generated by power plants. There is not a single site in the US capable of securely containing this material indefinitely, and nuclear waste is incredibly toxic both to humans and to the environment. Until we find or build such a facility, large scale use of nuclear power to replace fossil fuels is simply not an option.
absolutely ........
 
It is less harmful than air pollution put out by coal and fossil fuel energy sources.

Reporting says that air pollution kills 8.9 million people annually, and shortens life expectancy by three years.
 
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Which demonstrates stubbornness, and unwillingness to accept any sort of argument that counters your currently held beliefs.

Nuclear power is very safe. And we are working on ways to make it safer all the time.



 
It's called recycling. The vast majority of those things that are high level radioactive waste are also things that can be reused, recycled with just a little money and effort. It would cost money, yes. But it is easily able to be accomplished.

This is like reading Briebart, Zerohedge, FOX etc etc etc etc etc.
 
One compelling reason not to is the enormous cost. The second is the enormous difficulty. A third is waste products. A fourth is safety.

New reactors are phenomenally expensive. For example, the VC Summer project started to build 2 new reactors. The initial cost was nearly $10 billion. As costs escalated, the reactor manufacturer (Westinghouse) declared bankruptcy, estimated costs soared, and both reactors were canceled -- sticking ratepayers with the bills anyway.

And that was using a new design, the AP1000, which was supposed to be cheaper and safer than current designs.

In terms of waste, nuclear plants are near-zero carbon emissions (which is great) but still have an impact on the environment. Obviously, something has to be done with spent fuel rods, and so far that usually means dumping them in a hole, and who wants that in their backyard? Another issue is that they are almost always water-cooled, and all that heated water has to go somewhere. Enormous water consumption also means that areas experiencing droughts can't (or shouldn't) feasibly build nuclear reactors.

And of course, major accidents are rare but devastating, as we see from both Chernobyl and Fukushima.


As a result, it seems fairly clear that the safer, cleaner and cheaper options are:

• Energy conservation (an effective method that is criminally underutilized)
• Wind generation (whose costs have plummeted in recent years)
• Solar generation (costs down as well)
• Water turbines
• Hydrogen fuels
• Carbon capture (needs a lot of work though)

Seems pretty obvious we're better off developing cleaner, cheaper, more sustainable energy generation than nuclear.
yes we are .........
 
This is like reading Briebart, Zerohedge, FOX etc etc etc etc etc.
There is plenty of information out there on how safe nuclear power is. This isn't fiction. Most of the issue with nuclear power is people making up crap and/or holding beliefs based on fears of it, based on movies and other sources and even bad science from over 40+ years ago.
 
Huh? I assume you're being sarcastic.

No, that's how half-life works. It's the amount of time it takes for a given mass to radiate half of its energy.

If something has a half-life of a million years, it takes a million years to give out half its energy. Pretty slow.

If something has a half-life of five minutes, it will radiate the same amount of energy in five minutes, leaving you suuuuuper dead.

Nuclear waste is not like what it appears on The Simpsons. It's not barrels of glowing green goo.
 
One of the few issues I think Democrats have made mistakes on is pretty broad opposition for a long time to nuclear energy. Planning to make this post I checked and found that in 2020, Democrats endorsed nuclear energy in the platform for the first time since 1972.

Humanity is currently heading to a destroyed planet. That's one option.

What are the options?

- Slash the human population - not planned.

- Slash the energy used, return to a low-energy use society. Essentially impossible to happen.

- Meet the energy needs just by increasing 'nice' renewable energy, water, solar, water, apparently not possible.

- Invent amazing new technology that mitigates the harm from harmful energy sources. There are some efforts here, but no reason to think it will be a solution.

No, there seem compelling reasons to consider more nuclear power, including the new Thorium reactors, and no compelling reasons not to. Unless they find a reason otherwise, I think progressives should lead the way on it.
Currently, Nuclear Energy is one of the safest and cleanest forms of energy production. We should be looking into ways of using it more. We shouldn't, of course, stagnate on it. We should always be investing in research and engineering to find the next form of energy production, but we shouldn't shy away from better alternatives due to hysterics and fear tactics.
 
You can get different opinions about whether renewables can meet our needs. My position is, they are the first choice. If they COULD, then great, use them. If not, nuclear is the next best option. What I've seen mostly says they can't. We should be researching and developing renewable energy as the #1 option, but it appears more is needed, and the best option is nuclear.

Here's one opinion from environmental groups and another from AIG:

The United States has the resources and technology to shift away from fossil fuels and build an energy system entirely run on renewables, according to a new report released Thursday by Environment America Research & Policy Center and the Frontier Group.

In terms of AIG’s outlook on energy transition, the company’s ESG report states the following: "Climate change is a complex issue and the world cannot currently meet its energy needs through purely green technologies."
 
Even if you recycle the nuclear fuel, you will still end up with a large amount of nuclear waste in need of long term secure storage, storage which neither the US nor France currently possesses. Until we build such a storage facility, converting the whole country to nuclear power will not be feasible.
correct .......
 
Currently, Nuclear Energy is one of the safest and cleanest forms of energy production. We should be looking into ways of using it more. We shouldn't, of course, stagnate on it. We should always be investing in research and engineering to find the next form of energy production, but we shouldn't shy away from better alternatives due to hysterics and fear tactics.
nuke big profit people are putting out some serious propaganda ......

When is comes to radio active materials which type of cancer is anyone willing to enjoy?
 
No, that's how half-life works. It's the amount of time it takes for a given mass to radiate half of its energy.

If something has a half-life of a million years, it takes a million years to give out half its energy. Pretty slow.

If something has a half-life of five minutes, it will radiate the same amount of energy in five minutes, leaving you suuuuuper dead.
Actually, this really isn't how half life works. It is the amount of time it takes for it to decay (break down) to half of it's amount. And how much radiation is released depends on the element itself, which changes with each element. There are two factors there, not just one. Energy is not the same for all elements when released by decay. And something with a small halflife does not necessarily kill you..


 
nuke big profit people are putting out some serious propaganda ......

When is comes to radio active materials which type of cancer is anyone willing to enjoy?
What cancer do you believe someone is going to get from nuclear power? Please present actual risk.

Let me help enlighten you, my personal risk of cancer from my time aboard the ship, working in nuclear power is a completely negligible increase (and even that is purely theoretical since there were in fact reductions in my outside radiation exposures working on that ship), despite working around reactors for about 10 years, including going into several reactor compartments (after shutdowns) and even working around radiography work (which was a bigger risk of exposure).

Radiation sources are all around you.

 
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