I refuse to vote for Mitt Romney

[iguanaman]

.

LOL, yet you voted for someone with no experience, no leadership skills, very poor management skills and yet you have the gall to attack a former Governor based upon biased information. Bush didn't make the decision alone, he got Congressional approval from a Senate controlled by the Democrats. We all saw the respect Bush got after winning the 2000 elections, didn't we.

Actually Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, he only won the Presidency in the GOP stacked Supreme Court. Bush proved again and again his incompetance. Congress CANNOT send troops into battle. An authorization for war is not a approval either. Bush wanted Sadaam since he took office and took his eye off of Bin Laden because of it, the rest will go down in infamy.

At least my President was not too much of a wimp to finally kill Bin Laden. Bush let him get set up in a cushy suburban home for the duration, him being a family friend and all.

 

[Conservative]

Actually Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, he only won the Presidency in the GOP stacked Supreme Court. Bush proved again and again his incompetance. Congress CANNOT send troops into battle. An authorization for war is not a approval either. Bush wanted Sadaam since he took office and took his eye off of Bin Laden because of it, the rest will go down in infamy.

What is going down in history is a President with a worse economic record than Carter and yet you still want to talk about Bush. Getting Bin Laden was great but years in the making including policies by Gates and Petraeus and ending the Iraq war was done on the Bush time line. Obama takes credit never responsibility. He was against everything in Iraq and now takes credit for the success in Iraq. He will do anything to divert from his economic record which is a disaster. Apparently like most liberals you continue to blame Bush for the November 2011 results of 315000 dropping out of the labor force, 1.1 million discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force, record deficits, less than 2% GDP growth in 2011, lower labor force than when he took office, higher misery index. Obama is an incompetent unqualified individual in over his head and yet liberals ignore results preferring instead to rely on the ignorance of so many blaming the current numbers on Bush who left office three years ago.

 

[Catawba]

What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty?

I voted for the party that had a majority of its members vote against the GOP War in Iraq.

And you still haven't answered how you intend to pay for your war on Iran, increasing taxes or just adding it to the National Debt as is the Republican practice?

 

[Conservative]

I voted for the party that had a majority of its members vote against the GOP War in Iraq.

How did the war affect you and your family? I had three family members serve there, did you?

 

[Catawba]

I never muched cared for red tape and complicted things or long speeches that mean nothing.
I like things simple,
Create more jobs for more tax revenue and more money in circulation.eace

Despite strong support among voters, the GOP voted down the American Jobs Act, and the voted down the bill that would end tax subsidies for companies that outsource American jobs.

 

[Conservative]

Despite strong support among voters, the GOP voted down the American Jobs Act, and the voted down the bill that would end tax subsidies for companies that outsource American jobs.

How many taxpayer public servant thus union jobs did that act project? Doesn't matter to you, does it? When the Federal dollars run out who picks up the cost?

 

[Catawba]

Honestly the GOP just seems to be taking a pass this election. None of their most serious potential candidates even ran. The 2012 presidential election is Obama's by default.

All of the serious candidates knew their chances of winning would be much greater in 2016.

 

[Ockham]

All of the serious candidates knew their chances of winning would be much greater in 2016.

Not sure there's going to be much left to salvage the way Obama's handling it. It might not be worth winning in 2016.

 

[Catawba]

How did the war affect you and your family? I had three family members serve there, did you?

I have a son that served there 4 times.

What does that have to do with your avoidance of a direct question asked you four times now????

How do you intend to pay for your war on Iran, increasing taxes or just adding it to the National Debt as is the Republican practice?

 

[Catawba]

How many taxpayer public servant thus union jobs did that act project? Doesn't matter to you, does it? When the Federal dollars run out who picks up the cost?

DPCC FACT SHEET: ECONOMISTS AGREE AMERICAN JOBS
ACT WILL CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS AND GROW OUR
ECONOMY

The marketplace takes over after the economy has recovered from the Great Bush Recession.

The majority of Americans support this program and they have noted that it is the GOP that nixed it.

 

[Catawba]

Not sure there's going to be much left to salvage the way Obama's handling it. It might not be worth winning in 2016.

If Obama's handling it was so bad compared to the alternative, you would not see Obama's approval rating almost 30 percentage points higher than the Republicans in Congress as it currently is, and the GOP would be able to enlist a serious candidate to run against him in November.

 

[johnny_rebson]

Yes Catawba, there will be an economic recovery when jobs return to America......after the union crowd agrees to 40 percent pay cuts.

 

[AdamT]

Yes Catawba, there will be an economic recovery when jobs return to America......after the union crowd agrees to 40 percent pay cuts.

Yeah, that'll do it. And what about the 90% of the work force that doesn't belong to a union?

 

[Conservative]

I have a son that served there 4 times.

What does that have to do with your avoidance of a direct question asked you four times now????

How do you intend to pay for your war on Iran, increasing taxes or just adding it to the National Debt as is the Republican practice?

What war in Iran? Did we go to war in Iran? I won't bury my head in the sand like you nor will I show my ignorance of the National debt like you do. Bush tax cuts were passed before the war in Iraq began and the revenue increase from those tax cuts due to economic growth

Total Tax Revenue and Income tax revenue AFTER the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003. We went into Iraq in March of 2003 and the 10 years of war cost 130 billion a year.

Year Total FIT

2003 3,043 2047.9
2004 3,265 2213.2
2005 3,659 2546.8
2006 3,996 2807.4
2007 4,197 2951.2
2008 4,072 2790.3

So it looks like tax revenue from 2003-2007 generated 1.15 trillion in revenue or almost 300 billion a year in increased revenue which you conveniently ignored. FIT increase was 910 billion or 91 billion a year making FIT deficit of 40 BILLION a year deficit vs. the cost of both wars. You really are out of touch with reality.

 

[AdamT]

What war in Iran? Did we go to war in Iran? I won't bury my head in the sand like you nor will I show my ignorance of the National debt like you do. Bush tax cuts were passed before the war in Iraq began and the revenue increase from those tax cuts due to economic growth

Total Tax Revenue and Income tax revenue AFTER the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003. We went into Iraq in March of 2003 and the 10 years of war cost 130 billion a year.

Year Total FIT

2003 3,043 2047.9
2004 3,265 2213.2
2005 3,659 2546.8
2006 3,996 2807.4
2007 4,197 2951.2
2008 4,072 2790.3

So it looks like tax revenue from 2003-2007 generated 1.15 trillion in revenue or almost 300 billion a year in increased revenue which you conveniently ignored. FIT increase was 910 billion or 91 billion a year making FIT deficit of 40 BILLION a year deficit vs. the cost of both wars. You really are out of touch with reality.

Please provide a link to your data. We're all a little tired of you falsifying the numbers.

 

[Catawba]

Yes Catawba, there will be an economic recovery when jobs return to America......after the union crowd agrees to 40 percent pay cuts.

Hell of campaign platform for GOP to take to a middle class that is suffering from the concentration of wealth in the top 1%. But, if you think that is a winning hand for November, you and the GOP keep your class war against the middle class going!

 

[Conservative]

Please provide a link to your data. We're all a little tired of you falsifying the numbers.

Links don't matter to you as you just ignore them. BEA.gov is where you need to go and learn how to use the data there, All non partisan and actual results but why would any Obama supporter want actual facts when they can fool the idiots out there that buy the rhetoric.

 

[teamosil]

Yes Catawba, there will be an economic recovery when jobs return to America......after the union crowd agrees to 40 percent pay cuts.

You think the problem in the US is that working people get TOO MUCH money!!!???!?!?! No offense, but that's bat**** insane. The median income of the bottom 99% of us FELL during the course of Bush's entire term while the median income of the top 1% quadrupiled... The problem isn't the working people taking too much, it's the super rich taking more than the nation can afford.

 

[AdamT]

Links don't matter to you as you just ignore them. BEA.gov is where you need to go and learn how to use the data there, All non partisan and actual results but why would any Obama supporter want actual facts when they can fool the idiots out there that buy the rhetoric.

Yeah, we've all seen you claim to cite BEA data, only to discover that the data you post doesn't exist on the BEA website, or that you've misrepresented the data. Post your links.

 

[Conservative]

Yeah, we've all seen you claim to cite BEA data, only to discover that the data you post doesn't exist on the BEA website, or that you've misrepresented the data. Post your links.

That is a lie but then again liberals are good at promoting lies. Go to the site and learn to use it, Government current receipts and expenditures. You might learn something especially that liberals lie

http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=9&step=1

 

[Catawba]

What war in Iran? Did we go to war in Iran? I won't bury my head in the sand like you nor will I show my ignorance of the National debt like you do. Bush tax cuts were passed before the war in Iraq began and the revenue increase from those tax cuts due to economic growth

Total Tax Revenue and Income tax revenue AFTER the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003. We went into Iraq in March of 2003 and the 10 years of war cost 130 billion a year.

Year Total FIT

2003 3,043 2047.9
2004 3,265 2213.2
2005 3,659 2546.8
2006 3,996 2807.4
2007 4,197 2951.2
2008 4,072 2790.3

So it looks like tax revenue from 2003-2007 generated 1.15 trillion in revenue or almost 300 billion a year in increased revenue which you conveniently ignored. FIT increase was 910 billion or 91 billion a year making FIT deficit of 40 BILLION a year deficit vs. the cost of both wars. You really are out of touch with reality.

As has been documented:

"Table 4-2 illustrates one way to measure the contribution of the defense budget to this surge in expenditure
and debt. The table takes spending levels in the “surplus year” 2000 as a baseline and aggregates all
spending above this level for the subsequent years, 2001 through 2010. It shows that total federal spending
above the 2000 baseline during these years was $9.9 trillion. Of this, discretionary spending above the 2000
baseline was $4.25 trillion. Defense was responsible for more than 56% of this additional discretionary
spending and 24.3% of the additional federal spending overall."

http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1103bm47s4.pdf

 

[Conservative]

As has been documented:

"Table 4-2 illustrates one way to measure the contribution of the defense budget to this surge in expenditure
and debt. The table takes spending levels in the “surplus year” 2000 as a baseline and aggregates all
spending above this level for the subsequent years, 2001 through 2010. It shows that total federal spending
above the 2000 baseline during these years was $9.9 trillion. Of this, discretionary spending above the 2000
baseline was $4.25 trillion. Defense was responsible for more than 56% of this additional discretionary
spending and 24.3% of the additional federal spending overall."

http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1103bm47s4.pdf

You don't even know what you are posting. This is amazing lack of knowledge which probably makes you an Obama supporter. 56% increase in discretionary spending over 10 years! How do you explain Obama's defense spending higher than Bush's and the war in Iraq is over? Do you know what discretionary spending is? What part of the budget does that entail and are you claiming that the 56% increase over 10 years is all deficit spending? You really need to learn about budgets and expenditures.

 

[winston53660]

That is a lie but then again liberals are good at promoting lies. Go to the site and learn to use it, Government current receipts and expenditures. You might learn something especially that liberals lie

http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=9&step=1

Dude first off you are linking to 2009 - 2011 Data

Secondly bad form to make people look for a needle in hay stack.

 

[Conservative]

Click on options and you can put whatever date you want in there

 

[winston53660]

Click on options and you can put whatever date you want in there

Not my responsibility to search out you should have done in the first place.

Been there done that like when you compare nominal and real numbers.