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I OPEN Carry. Ask me any questions.

Ahlevah said:
I don't dispute any argument that most criminals are rational beings who would rather attack a soft target than a hardened one. But as evidenced by the number of attacks on armored trucks and armed security guards at banks, there are just enough idiots who think getting the guy with the gun is a good idea, and anyone who has already initiated a robbery and is faced with someone who is apparently unarmed and someone else who is armed would target the latter first.
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It seems like you're describing risk/reward, that criminals will generally only go after known-armed people if there's bags of cash on the other end.

Your typical OC'er isnt carrying tons of cash. The reward is not worth the risk.
 
Ahlevah said:
Yeah, and they seem a bit paranoid these days, often traveling in pairs in cruisers with dark tinted windows. When they pull you over at night they blast you with bright headlights, with one officer standing towards the rear of your vehicle on the passenger side while the other officer approaches on the driver side.
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Yup, but not reguler OCers.
 
Only reason that I don't open carry is that I only own one holster, and it's a pocket holster. Given my preferences, I would carry openly and concealed at all times when outside my home, and would have a weapon to hand at all times when inside of it.
 
Jerry said:
Yup, but not reguler OCers.
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It's one thing to open carry in, say, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. But does anyone have photos of people open carrying in high crime areas, e.g. East Cleveland where, presumably, it would actually do some good at reducing crime? :confused: It would be a tremendous community service for some of you enterprising chaps to head to inner city neighborhoods in open carry states and stand around on drug-infested street corners packing, would it not? Maybe someone could organize a "gun in"? Put your guns where your mouth is, so to speak?
 
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Ahlevah said:
It's one thing to open carry in, say, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. But does anyone have photos of people open carrying in high crime areas, e.g. East Cleveland where, presumably, it would actually do some good at reducing crime? :confused: It would be a tremendous community service for some of you enterprising chaps to head to inner city neighborhoods in open carry states and stand around on drug-infested street corners packing, would it not? Maybe someone could organize a "gun in"? Put your guns where your mouth is, so to speak?
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I'm not very 'enterprising' I guess. I don't have the money or time to travel 1,200 miles just to OC in some random Ohio neighbourhood.

I don't generally go out of my way to be like "look at me I have a gun", attention whoring as you suggest I should. When I OC I'm just going about my normal day.
 
Jerry said:
I'm not very 'enterprising' I guess. I don't have the money or time to travel 1,200 miles just to OC in some random Ohio neighbourhood.

I don't generally go out of my way to be like "look at me I have a gun", attention whoring as you suggest I should. When I OC I'm just going about my normal day.
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As of 99% of those that OC on a regular basis.
 
My question would be why you would want to advertise the gun? If I'm a criminal, that just tells me that this is the guy I need to take out first. I have the initiative because I'm the bad guy, and you don't know I'm the bad guy until I do something.
 
Deuce said:
My question would be why you would want to advertise the gun? If I'm a criminal, that just tells me that this is the guy I need to take out first. I have the initiative because I'm the bad guy, and you don't know I'm the bad guy until I do something.
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He can either take me out first, or he can go prey on someone else.

Main reason I want to open carry is that it makes it easier to reach your gun(s). Secondary reason is that I want to normalize bearing arms by showing people that it's a normal thing to do while doing other normal things. I want to live in a society that arms itself better than ours does, and that seems the best way to encourage it, outside of directly offering to help arm and train people-- which is beyond my means.
 
Deuce said:
My question would be why you would want to advertise the gun?
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So the perp knows I'm armed, of course.

Deuce said:
If I'm a criminal, that just tells me that this is the guy I need to take out first. I have the initiative because I'm the bad guy, and you don't know I'm the bad guy until I do something.
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That's not true. Convenience store robbers, for example, project verious mannerisms and suspicious behavior as they delay and stalk for their oppertunity. As a result an allert indivigual, which every armed citizen should be wether CC or OC, can spot. Its not always guaranteed but generaly the case. Once 'made' the perp will see that this is not the opertunity he's looking for.
 
cpgrad08 said:
As the title says. I OPEN carry as my standard mode carrying a firearm. So ask me any real questions about OPEN Carry of why I do so.
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I presume the holster is attached to your belt, correct? Where on your belt--directly to the side, or off-center? (Sorry if this has already been asked and answered.)
 
Directly on my strong side.
 
Do you accept that business owners have the right to keep you out of their place of business if you refuse to conceal your firearm?
 
Sietske22 said:
Do you accept that business owners have the right to keep you out of their place of business if you refuse to conceal your firearm?
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Buisness owners have every right to require a dress code.
 
Sietske22 said:
Do you accept that business owners have the right to keep you out of their place of business if you refuse to conceal your firearm?
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Yes I do, it's their property, they get to make the rules.
 
cpgrad08 said:
Yes I do, it's their property, they get to make the rules.
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Looking at TX as an example, I would have thought that if any mode of carry were to be banned that it would be concealed carry. This way you cannot ignore a no-gun sign without comitting what I assume would be a felony (the felony being concealed carry).
 
Jerry said:
Looking at TX as an example, I would have thought that if any mode of carry were to be banned that it would be concealed carry. This way you cannot ignore a no-gun sign without comitting what I assume would be a felony (the felony being concealed carry).
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In WA no gun signs have no legal authority except for those building off limits under state and federal law.
 
cpgrad08 said:
In WA no gun signs have no legal authority except for those building off limits under state and federal law.
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Exactly. I would have thought that if any method of carry would be prohibited it would be concealed carry so that property owners would know if you're ignoring their sign, force of law or no.
 
cpgrad08 said:
In WA no gun signs have no legal authority except for those building off limits under state and federal law.
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My general impression is that while the signs have no legal authority in the technical sense, if the property owner determines that an armed person is a trespasser, advises him that he is trespassing and orders him to leave, he must legally obey.

Failure to do so will result in either an arrest for trespsassing, or an avoidable esacalation as not all property owners who ban guns on their property are unarmed themselves.
 
Cryptic said:
My general impression is that while the signs have no legal authority in the technical sense, if the property owner determines that an armed person is a trespasser, advises him that he is trespassing and orders him to leave, he must legally obey.
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Correct.
 
Cryptic said:
My general impression is that while the signs have no legal authority in the technical sense, if the property owner determines that an armed person is a trespasser, advises him that he is trespassing and orders him to leave, he must legally obey.

Failure to do so will result in either an arrest for trespsassing, or an avoidable esacalation as not all property owners who ban guns on their property are unarmed themselves.
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Thats true regardles of why the owner wants you off the property or rather or not their's a sign. I don't understand why people keep bringing that up. If anything it only shows that we don't need special signs or laws about those special signs.
 
Another reason to open carry is that you don't have to explain to your friends why you won't go into the liquore store with them. You dodge the whole "what you have a gun?" bull****.
 
Jerry said:
Another reason to open carry is that you don't have to explain to your friends why you won't go into the liquore store with them. You dodge the whole "what you have a gun?" bull****.
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Unless you live in a State such as Georgia where having a weapon in a liquor store is not a problem.
 
Somewhat related...when someone learns that I carry, I get questioned...I've been asked "why not just carry a taser"...well, a taser costs more than a gun, is part of the reason.
 
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