I need to quit drinking

[beerftw]

Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.

 

[Fledermaus]

Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.

One day at a time.

But cold turkey sucks.

And there are "session" beers that give you damn fine taste with lower alcohol content. I have drank some wonderful session IPAs.

Lagunitas is a good choice.

 

[beerftw]

One day at a time.

But cold turkey sucks.

And there are "session" beers that give you damn fine taste with lower alcohol content. I have drank some wonderful session IPAs.

Lagunitas is a good choice.

I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but eally I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.

 

[Jean-s]

I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but eally I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.

Get help.

 

[Chomsky]

My advice is free, you get what you pay for.

The real test in determining if alcohol is a problem, is not in whether one can abstain? And not whether one can pound them back? Rather, it is determined by whether one can drink in a controlled fashion? On the other hand, abstention determines whether one can abstain - not whether one is a controlled (i.e. 'normal') drinker. It is not about picking-up the drink, but what occurs when you pick it up?

So a test might be to drink the exact same number of drinks every night, for some period of time. Say 3 drinks every night - no more, no less - for 30 days. If that can't be done, then abstention is the solution. Abstention is easier than controlled drinking. It's why alcoholics - those who cannot control their drinking - chose to abstain.

Hope this advice isn't too heavy for you. I wish you the best in your discoveries.

 

[GDViking]

Well i have always been a heavy drinker, i watched a girlfriend who i can only kne for six months kill herself with alcohol. I did not know she had already died once due to alcohol poisoning and liver failure.

Because i was unaware of her history i was just an enabler who expedited her death.

I have quit for many months many times, however i struggle with extreme depression and anxiety, my meds help but alcohol is the only thing that allows me to be in public without losing it. I plan to try medical weed rather than what im doing now.

Anyway for a true alcoholic as i am there is no such thing as cutting down, loke the old saying goes, one is too many and a thousand is not enough...

Everyone is different though and each has to find their own path.

I wish you luck finding yours my friend....

 

[Fledermaus]

I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but eally I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.

Gatorade, Virgin Margaritas...

My favorite is Ginger Ale.

 

[SkyFox76]

I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but eally I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.

I went through barely drinking to ohhh ****, to what the hell did I do last night? Sadly there were sometimes videos. Then I flat out quit for about 4 years (sometimes drank nearbeer) and then I went full blown suck it down for about two weeks during a personal crisis.

Somewhere toward the end of that I made a vow to never drink before 5 pm and in moderation. I've stuck by it and it's worked for me for about 20 years. Just make a limit and stick by it. That puts you in control. eace

 

[SkyFox76]

My advice is free, you get what you pay for.

The real test in determining if alcohol is a problem, is not in whether one can abstain? And not whether one can pound them back? Rather, it is determined by whether one can drink in a controlled fashion? On the other hand, abstention determines whether one can abstain - not whether one is a controlled (i.e. 'normal') drinker. It is not about picking-up the drink, but what occurs when you pick it up?

So a test might be to drink the exact same number of drinks every night, for some period of time. Say 3 drinks every night - no more, no less - for 30 days. If that can't be done, then abstention is the solution. Abstention is easier than controlled drinking. It's why alcoholics - those who cannot control their drinking - chose to abstain.

Hope this advice isn't too heavy for you. I wish you the best in your discoveries.

That's where I've ended up. Nothing before 5pm, and only keep 3-4 beers chilled. The rest are on the property but aren't really convenient to just grab and aren't cold. Maybe once every two months I go the extra mile so to say.

 

[GDViking]

That's where I've ended up. Nothing before 5pm, and only keep 3-4 beers chilled. The rest are on the property but aren't really convenient to just grab and aren't cold. Maybe once every two months I go the extra mile so to say.

When i quit smoking i used to leave my cigarettes in my truck.

During Wisconsin blizzards i really had to be jonesing to go out to get one...

 

[Chomsky]

Well i have always been a heavy drinker, i watched a girlfriend who i can only kne for six months kill herself with alcohol. I did not know she had already died once due to alcohol poisoning and liver failure.

Because i was unaware of her history i was just an enabler who expedited her death.

I have quit for many months many times, however i struggle with extreme depression and anxiety, my meds help but alcohol is the only thing that allows me to be in public without losing it. I plan to try medical weed rather than what im doing now.

Anyway for a true alcoholic as i am there is no such thing as cutting down, loke the old saying goes, one is too many and a thousand is not enough...

Everyone is different though and each has to find their own path.

I wish you luck finding yours my friend....

My condolences on the loss of your former relationship.

But concerning that, it's absolutely amazing how alkies find each other! I don't know whether it's conscious, or unconscious, but it happens - over, and over, and over. And unfortunately, it's virtually always destructive.

 

[SkyFox76]

When i quit smoking i used to leave my cigarettes in my truck.

During Wisconsin blizzards i really had to be jonesing to go out to get one...

I've always found it easier to kick a habit by having the "evil thing" within an inconvenient reach.

 

[Fishking]

Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)

I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.

We might butt heads but keep the fight up. Don't throw your future health away for a substance. Good to see you recognize the need. If you need support just message me and I'll tell you drinking is helping Trump win the 2020 election or something.

Oh...you might have to change your screen name though

My argument for myself has always been appealing to my cheap nature. These types of habits are too expensive.

 

[Winston]

I got sober 4 years ago. You have to want it. If you don’t it’s too easy to fall back into old habits


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[Old 'N Chill]

I agree with the others here who say just don't have it so convenient and in reach. You can start out by putting only 3 beers in your refrigerator, keep the rest of the pack or case in the basement or somewhere else. You have to make the decision yourself to do so, but to me this is a reasonable method. Only have the three cold and ready to drink, and it would help if you don't have any until maybe you are eating supper. It's better for your health that way, and most people want to have a brew or two while they're eating.

If you get the urge to have another one after the three, walk away. No weak excuses to say it's okay to drink more, you're stronger than that....just tell yourself NO! Check yourself and stop thinking about it. Go out for a walk or in the yard and get your mind on something else. Do not allow yourself to go past 3. You ARE in control of yourself, and if you want it bad enough you can do this.

Have some cans of seltzer water in your fridge, maybe the flavored healthy ones like La Croix. Grab a can of that instead of the 4th beer, think positive, it'll work if you get into the routine and put your mind to it. Take a selfie of yourself now, and then take another after limiting yourself for a month, I bet you'll notice a change in your appearance in that time, plus you'll lose some weight and help avoid type 2 diabetes, etc.

Milk Thistle is an herb that is very supportive for the liver, it doesn't hurt to do some natural things that are healthy in the process. Start an exercise, walking, jogging, riding a bike....many times replacing a bad habit with one that makes you feel good afterwards will help. I did that when I quit smoking cold turkey years back, soon having another smoke made no sense. I always loved smoking, but felt like crap while I was doing it.....feeling healthy and having more energy feels a lot better than breathing in smoke, or getting bagged....after the first few drinks, you no longer really enjoy it any more, the next morning you even enjoy it less.

Good luck, you're smart to be thinking and posting about this. Always remember a lot of this is just plain habit, and habits can be broken. I wish you well.

 

[Bum]

Gatorade, Virgin Margaritas...

My favorite is Ginger Ale.

GA and carbonated water are my "go to" drinks when I choose not to imbibe.....lite flavor and carbonation makes me feel full.


That, and a decade in a strict Islamic ( no ETOH) country had made me used to going without for long stretches.

 

[Fledermaus]

GA and carbonated water are my "go to" drinks when I choose not to imbibe.....lite flavor and carbonation makes me feel full.

That, and a decade in a strict Islamic ( no ETOH) country had made me used to going without for long stretches.

I sabotaged Poker night long ago.

A bunch of Marines drinking beer. I would drink from a glass. Every other "beer" was ginger ale. The more the night went on the better it got for me. By morning I had cleaned up and was literally the last man standing.

 

[beerftw]

Friday night through sunday night onl brought a 24 pack of bud for a lake trip, it was gone by sunday mornin but I was not the only one drinking from that 24 pack so I think I did better, btw did ya'll know the lake is just as amazing sober as it is drunk?

 

[poweRob]

Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.

Good luck bftw. I hope it's easy for you to break the routine.

 

[Novalis]

Alcohol is the most primitive of all drugs. Also very dangerous, those who are addicted to alcohol are usually hopelessly lost. It is better not to drink alcohol. Better to consume cannabis pure with the vaporizer. Nowadays the cannabis is highly potent, that is a problem. One should dilute the cannabis with THC free cannabis. So with CBD cannabis. Dilute it so much that you are only slightly intoxicated and everything is fine. You can also take a codeine tablet once a week in the evening.
That is all you need.

 

[Novalis]

The latest trend among cultured people is LSD micro-dosage. Albert Hoffmann and Ernst Jünger have held countless LSD sessions in the past, they have both lived to be over 100 years old. Micro-dosage will not be very harmful.

Alcohol is only for monkeys.

 

[ModerationNow!]

Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.

I used to drink EVERY weekend to get buzzed up at parties or social gatherings, and a few beers during the week. But by 1997, just before turning 30, I just lost interest in drinking. It was no longer enjoyable. More often than not in the mid 90s, drinking made me feel bad, not good. I'd discovered prescription opioid pain killers by then, due to a severely botched wisdom teeth removal, which caused complications, infection, swelling, pain, which lasted 2 months or so. I fell in love with Percodan the very first pill, and that was to become a liability by 1998.

In 2000, I quit using opioids, then quit use of all drugs, including pot by 2002. By that time I hadnt had a beer buzz in almost 5 years. I never became an every day alcoholic, and never suffered from any alcohol withdrawal symptoms either. But i most certainly DID suffer opioid withdrawal symptoms! THAT IS ROUGH!!

 

[ModerationNow!]

The latest trend among cultured people is LSD micro-dosage. Albert Hoffmann and Ernst Jünger have held countless LSD sessions in the past, they have both lived to be over 100 years old. Micro-dosage will not be very harmful.

Alcohol is only for monkeys.

I'd recommend being careful with standard, full-trip doses of LSD at ages over 40 or 50. Your mindset is different by then, and it may not end up being a fun experience. I dont know how micro-dosing would effect you. It depends on the person i guess.

 

[Novalis]

I'd recommend being careful with standard, full-trip doses of LSD at ages over 40 or 50. Your mindset is different by then, and it may not end up being a fun experience. I dont know how micro-dosing would effect you. It depends on the person i guess.

Yes, the dosage is important. LSD I know, I took it a long time ago. The problem is the dosage. Because LSD is illegal, you can't get exact doses of LSD. As it is with pharmaceuticals. Especially with LSD, I see a significant risk of overdose. So, ordering something on the internet I see skeptically. Otherwise I would like to try a LSD micro-dosage.

 

[Novalis]

I used to drink EVERY weekend to get buzzed up at parties or social gatherings, and a few beers during the week. But by 1997, just before turning 30, I just lost interest in drinking. It was no longer enjoyable. More often than not in the mid 90s, drinking made me feel bad, not good. I'd discovered prescription opioid pain killers by then, due to a severely botched wisdom teeth removal, which caused complications, infection, swelling, pain, which lasted 2 months or so. I fell in love with Percodan the very first pill, and that was to become a liability by 1998.

In 2000, I quit using opioids, then quit use of all drugs, including pot by 2002. By that time I hadnt had a beer buzz in almost 5 years. I never became an every day alcoholic, and never suffered from any alcohol withdrawal symptoms either. But i most certainly DID suffer opioid withdrawal symptoms! THAT IS ROUGH!!

If you have severe pain in the future, take Tapentadol, which is not very addictive.