I Need A Republican To Tell Me Which Of These Statements About Jan 6 Are True...

[Yakshi]

McDaniel said the protestors engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol.

What in God's name is she talking about? Who are these people that have been arrested that did not engage in violence/breaking into the Capitol?

It is trolling, nothing more or less.

It is all they do.

 

[poweRob]

It appears the OP got his answer. There are no conflict in those statements... if you look at it while having severe bouts of cognitive dissonance.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

There is nothing contradictory about those three statements. They each refer to different specific issues.

Is there anything contradictory about these two statements?:

Trump on 30 Jan 2022:

If I run and I win, we will treat those people from Jan. 6 fairly,” he said, addressing a crowd at a fairground in Conroe, outside Houston, that appeared to number in the tens of thousands. “We will treat them fairly,” he repeated. “And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly.


Trump on 7 Jan 2021:

"The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy," he said. "To those that engage in the acts of violence and disruption, you do not represent our country. To those that broke the law, you will pay."


You poor man....constantly twisting yourself in knots in order to protect Dear Leader Trump and the full-of-shit Republican Cult. My condolences.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Alex Jones, Bannon etc.

You have inside knowledge on Jones and Bannon that the Jan 6 Committee doesn't know about? How do you know they had nothing to do with the violence on Jan 6?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

And another one cowers away from the discussion.

When you're ready to have a legitimate debate, please come back.

jnug asked you a bunch of questions that you can't answer or won't answer honestly. The only one cowering is you.

 

[gdgyva]

There are so many contradictory statements coming from Republicans about Jan 6. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.

Can a Republican please review the quotes below for me and tell me which quotes are true statements about Jan 6 and which ones are not?

Donald Trump on 7 Jan 2021: "The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy," he said. "To those that engage in the acts of violence and disruption, you do not represent our country. To those that broke the law, you will pay."

RNC on 4 Feb 2022: "Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger crossed a line," Ronna McDaniel said. "They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol."

Mike Pence on 4 Feb 2022: described Jan. 6 as a “dark day” in Washington.

Thank you for the help!

tell you what, when Pelosi and Schumer and Biden can get every democrat to march to to same drum, come back to this

until then.....

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

tell you what, when Pelosi and Schumer and Biden can get every democrat to march to to same drum, come back to this

until then.....

Seriously...you had time to think about your response, and this is the best you could come up with???

Every Democrat agrees that Jan 6 was horrible and that it was an attempted coup against our government. Too bad your traitor party does not feel the same way.

 

[Mycroft]

Is there anything contradictory about these two statements?:

Trump on 30 Jan 2022:

If I run and I win, we will treat those people from Jan. 6 fairly,” he said, addressing a crowd at a fairground in Conroe, outside Houston, that appeared to number in the tens of thousands. “We will treat them fairly,” he repeated. “And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly.


Trump on 7 Jan 2021:

"The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy," he said. "To those that engage in the acts of violence and disruption, you do not represent our country. To those that broke the law, you will pay."

No.

 

[pocket aces]

So you're happy that the propaganda was a lie?
Well that's a new one at least.

As for indictments, we'd actually have to see what evidence the charges are based on.
And as I have not looked into it yet, I'm not going to speculate.

Why do you hate America?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

No.

You are so full of....

 

[Peacenik]

What Trump says all depends on when Trump speaks and what is trending. He is a populist with absolutely no morals. He will say anything he thinks will give him support and thus power. It does not matter to him if he has previously said the exact opposite. He cannot be held to his own word. He is a conman and his cult following is his power. Without them he is nothing.

Fortunately, more and more of his followers are realizing that he's using them.

Look at what we did. America actually elected Joe Biden just to get rid of Trump.

 

[humbolt]

I'll put this in the "Let's ralk about Trump because we sure as hell don't wanna talk about Biden" trash can.

 

[Juin]

There are so many contradictory statements coming from Republicans about Jan 6. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.

Can a Republican please review the quotes below for me and tell me which quotes are true statements about Jan 6 and which ones are not?

Donald Trump on 7 Jan 2021: "The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy," he said. "To those that engage in the acts of violence and disruption, you do not represent our country. To those that broke the law, you will pay."

RNC on 4 Feb 2022: "Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger crossed a line," Ronna McDaniel said. "They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol."

Mike Pence on 4 Feb 2022: described Jan. 6 as a “dark day” in Washington.

Thank you for the help!

They are all False

 

[Peacenik]

Pence just said Trump is wrong.

Pence had no Constitutional power to overturn the free and fair 2020 election. If he did then Kamala Harris would be able to overturn the 2024 election if she deems fit. Good point, Mike Pence.

How many Republicans believe Vice President Kamala Harris has the power to overturn the 2024 election if she so decides?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

They are all False

So you're not just "Republican Crazy".....you are "QAnon Crazy".

Is that correct?

 

[Buckeyes85]

What Trump says all depends on when Trump speaks and what is trending. He is a populist with absolutely no morals. He will say anything he thinks will give him support and thus power. It does not matter to him if he has previously said the exact opposite. He cannot be held to his own word. He is a conman and his cult following is his power. Without them he is nothing.

Fortunately, more and more of his followers are realizing that he's using them.

Look at what we did. America actually elected Joe Biden just to get rid of Trump.

I was with you up until the point where you suggested his followers are realizing that he's using them.
Sadly, I don't think that's true.

I want to believe the supposed conservatives on this board are not representative of conservatives nationwide, but I'm not sure anymore.

 

[jnug]

yes and it will be quite interesting to follow the cases and see if the the ones accused did indeed somehow plan take over the government in a general revolt.

my guess is no, but we'll see.

Guess all you want. It is no longer possible for anybody but those either blind or unbelievably unscrupulous to ignore that Fat Donnie and his gang tried to steal the 2020 election. What does or does not get charged and and who does or does not get charged won't charge that.

Donnie did not care about the ends he and his boys went to in order to accomplish that nor the consequences which ultimately would have been a country in complete disarray and vulnerable to hostile foreign takeover among other things.

 

[jnug]

Oh look, DOJ just released more video's of 1/6 to contradict the utterly ridiculous RNC Resolution regarding legitimate political discourse. No matter what Ms Romney McDaniel does, no matter how many "clean up in Aisle STUPID" clarifications she releases, the original Resolution still stands as one of the most absurd if not the most absurd pieces of trash ever released by an American Political Party.

It is worse, far worse than the GOP non-platform political platform headed into the 2020 election.

Should we no longer expect that an American Political Party can write statements that suggest a working knowledge of and adherence to the Constitution? I have a more likely conclusion. The GOP is no longer a political party, American or otherwise.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

I was with you up until the point where you suggested his followers are realizing that he's using them.
Sadly, I don't think that's true.

I want to believe the supposed conservatives on this board are not representative of conservatives nationwide, but I'm not sure anymore.

No, they definitely represent Republicans across the country.

If 30% of the country is this stupid, then we are inevitably doomed as a society.

I mean, look at this thread....these people won't even acknowledge obvious contradictions in their party's statements about Jan 6.

 

[Juin]

So you're not just "Republican Crazy".....you are "QAnon Crazy".

Is that correct?

That's your diagnosis.

 

[gdgyva]

Seriously...you had time to think about your response, and this is the best you could come up with???

Every Democrat agrees that Jan 6 was horrible and that it was an attempted coup against our government. Too bad your traitor party does not feel the same way.

no....not every democrat agrees

Majority of Americans think Jan. 6 attack threatened democracy: POLL

An overwhelming majority (72%) of Americans believe that the people involved in the attack on the U.S. Capitol were “threatening democracy,"

abcnews.go.com

This ABC News/Ipsos poll was conducted using Ipsos Public Affairs' KnowledgePanel® Dec. 27 to 29, 2021, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 982 adults with oversamples of Black and Hispanic respondents.

Even with more democrats responding not all democrats agree.....the country is VERY DIVIDED

they know a riot happened and a lot of idiots were arrested.....

So another in a long line of threads that hasnt changed one mind....and wont

The democrats need EVIDENCE....real evidence that GOP members were behind the attack.....and have completely struck out so far

Either witnesses have taken the 5th, and or the actual people who were involved have not agreed to testify against anyone above them

Now either they are willing to fall on their proverbial swords, or this wasnt as conspiratorial as the democrats want everyone to believe

 

[Buckeyes85]

no....not every democrat agrees

Majority of Americans think Jan. 6 attack threatened democracy: POLL

An overwhelming majority (72%) of Americans believe that the people involved in the attack on the U.S. Capitol were “threatening democracy,"

abcnews.go.com

This ABC News/Ipsos poll was conducted using Ipsos Public Affairs' KnowledgePanel® Dec. 27 to 29, 2021, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 982 adults with oversamples of Black and Hispanic respondents.

Even with more democrats responding not all democrats agree.....the country is VERY DIVIDED

they know a riot happened and a lot of idiots were arrested.....

So another in a long line of threads that hasnt changed one mind....and wont

The democrats need EVIDENCE....real evidence that GOP members were behind the attack.....and have completely struck out so far

Either witnesses have taken the 5th, and or the actual people who were involved have not agreed to testify against anyone above them

Now either they are willing to fall on their proverbial swords, or this wasnt as conspiratorial as the democrats want everyone to believe

Do you have any thoughts on why the country is so divided right now? Do you think Trump and Trump style politics played a part? As for 1/6 what do you mean by "GOP Members?" Members of congress? Who has suggested they were "behind the attack."

 

[RaleBulgarian]

… there were many people who were arrested, jailed, and charged who never engaged in violence and never stepped foot inside the Capital...

Aside from Rhodes, now charged with seditious conspiracy, can you cite, with link to source/s, proof of your claim?

If you think you can, please do so.

 

[JMB802]

There are so many contradictory statements coming from Republicans about Jan 6. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.

Can a Republican please review the quotes below for me and tell me which quotes are true statements about Jan 6 and which ones are not?

Donald Trump on 7 Jan 2021: "The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy," he said. "To those that engage in the acts of violence and disruption, you do not represent our country. To those that broke the law, you will pay."

RNC on 4 Feb 2022: "Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger crossed a line," Ronna McDaniel said. "They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol."

Mike Pence on 4 Feb 2022: described Jan. 6 as a “dark day” in Washington.

Thank you for the help!

That's the beauty of it. Trump and the rest of his mob talk out of their asses so their supporters can soothe themselves by picking and choosing which statements to support. Then they can 'splain the contradictions or just ignore them. Meanwhile, the GQP dogs **** their heads at every whistle.

 

[jnug]

That's the beauty of it. Trump and the rest of his mob talk out of their asses so their supporters can soothe themselves by picking and choosing which statements to support. Then they can 'splain the contradictions or just ignore them. Meanwhile, the GQP dogs **** their heads at every whistle.

Not only is the RNC trolling the entire country. Donnie has been trolling the entire country. The Trumplicans generally have been trolling the entire country and what Trumplican whacks we have here in this forum have been trolling the forum for at least the period since the National Archives send the Trump documents over to the Select Committee if not longer.