Heres something I have seen on facebook, on websites, on message boards and even in an email, though the email was mocking how dumb it was. (And to be fair so were the majority of comments on all those places) It makes me laugh that people think THIS is a logical argument.
"Scenario:
Your 12 year old daughter goes to the bathroom at the restaurant by herself. Your daughter doesn't return for a bit and you go to check on her and hear her crying in a bathroom stall. She runs to you and says a man just touched her privates. You call the police and they come to investigate. Just outside the bathroom is security cameras that records everyone coming and going from the Restrooms.
(Cameras aren't allowed inside the bathrooms) duh!! Your daughter enters the bathroom and just behind her enters what according to the camera appears to be a man. The man is identified later in the investigation and is interviewed by police but says he is transgender and he was just using the bathroom and the little girl is lying.
If people of both sexes are able to enter the bathroom of their choice the little girls statement holds no credibility. "Her word against his"
Now with the "Bathroom Law" in place, preventing a person of the opposite biological sex from entering the bathroom of their choice the little girls statement is credible and the offender has to explain why he entered a women's restroom when knowing it was against the law. This is maybe the evidence that helps convict the defendant or maybe the only evidence.
Now does this help the liberals understand!!!!!!
It's not about discrimination folks.
PLEASE SHARE EVERYONE"
This is beyond mentally retarded and isn't even a good scare tacit . . . here's a question . . . what it the person who touched the 12yr old girl that you chose to send to the restroom by themselves was a woman? oooooooops
If this is a real concern for you it should ALWAYS be a concern for you and don't let your kid go by themselves then.
If somebody would do that, they are a criminal period. .. their gender nor does their sexual orientation matter. . . .just like their race and religion 'matter, good grief I love how dumb these people are. Also love how who ever wrote this tried to make it about liberals . . news flash, many republicans and conservatives don't judge people based on sexual orientation or gender and are fine with transgenders using the facilities they are transitioned too.
Im glad at most the places I saw this people were mocking it and pointing out how dumb it is.
Perverts like that wouldn't follow the ****ing law regardless.
Uh, everybody's obsessed with sex, my friend.
I had to take my 2 year old into a men's restroom because the place I was at didn't have family restrooms. Luckily, it DID have a changing table in the men's room though I learned to do without those too if necessary.I've seen this said a lot in this thread. Got any proof of that? I know you can't just be talking about transgender's since there's only around 700,000 of them in the US.
Ahhh. So now you would love to have legislature where only Conservatives (I am guessing only Republicans really) are allowed to use public facilities. That's not fascist at all.Lib's are obsessed with perv's and sex , stay home and use your own bathroom ! :shock: PC gone too far . :roll:
Um...okay?Right , we don't have to introduce our self with "I'm gay" to every stranger on earth ! :lamo
Because private establishments and citizens in private establishments were occasionally harassing people based on the restroom they were using and the way they looked. Some of these people weren't even transgender.
Then leave, don't patronize their establishment, and spread the word about how sucky they are. But if you then go off and try to use governmental force don't be surprised if it then comes back to bite you in the ass. If you use government to enforce morality that doesn't harm anyone else then you may find out that others have a different set of morals and make laws opposite of what you believe.
Right , we don't have to introduce our self with "I'm gay" to every stranger on earth ! :lamo
The government is charging people with trespassing for using the restrooms. The government is charging people with crimes for doing this, that is part of the problem.
if you are making a law against transgenders that can easily be argued to be unequal. You opinion of equality as a non-start is meaningless just like it was with gay rights.
False, the government doesn't charge anyone. That is the responsibility of the place of business. If they don't charge, then it doesn't happen.
Perverts like that wouldn't follow the ****ing law regardless.
We asked the N.C. GOP if they could point to anything that backs up the safety fears. They provided a link to a news story in Seattle from earlier this year, about a man who had twice gone into a women’s locker room and began undressing. Seattle does allow transgender people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as.
The man didn’t identify as transgender and didn’t appear to present as a woman, the story said. No one called the police, and the man wasn’t charged with any crime. Follow-up stories described the incident as a stunt, perhaps politically motivated.
The liberal group Media Matters For America has studied the bathroom issue for several years, largely under the guidance of Carlos Maza.
Maza, a Wake Forest University graduate, tweeted after North Carolina’s new law passed that “A man has never used an LGBT non-discrimination law to sneak into a bathroom.”
Maza has also polled public school systems that allow transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as. In a June 2015 article, he wrote that in 17 districts with a total of 600,000 students, officials hadn’t reported a single incident of “harassment or inappropriate behavior” related to transgender students and bathrooms.
But we still weren’t satisfied, so we kept digging, looking for examples of proven criminal behavior. We were likewise unable to find any examples in the United States, though we did find a case in Canada.
In that case, Christopher Hambrook posed as a woman to gain entry to women’s shelters, where he attacked several people before being caught. Hambrook was sentenced to an “indefinite” jail term in 2014 that could lead to his spending the rest of his life in prison.
Hambrook committed the crimes in Toronto, which has an ordinance protecting transgender people. That appears to be the first, and so far only, incident of its kind in North America.
After spending hours combing through conservative blogs and family values websites dedicated to news about transgender bathroom ordinances, we were able to confirm three cases in the United States in the last 17 years in which a biological male was convicted of a crime that involved him in a women’s bathroom or locker room and dressed as a woman.
It’s unclear if any of the three identified as transgender women, but none of those cases happened in cities where it would have been legal for a transgender woman to use the women’s room anyway. And none involved sexual assault or rape.
Read more here: PolitiFact NC: Virtually no cases of sexual predators benefiting from transgender anti-discrimination laws | The Charlotte Observer
1.) so?
and many people see woman as stupid or minorities as criminals or whites as racist or Christians as tyrants or gays as evil.
2.) so do the comfort of all the examples i just gave
3.) I understand it and all my examples also
4.) ah but we are, especially if laws are being made right now against transgenders. That part is where rights COULD come into play and have to be decided.
Why is it comfort and etiquette when it comes to transgender but not race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, wealth, social status etc etc
5.) but she can leave or wait pretty easy
6.) you are allowed to wonder but it is especially when people are trying to make rights against transgenders
7.) and we have heard that same thing about race, gender, sexual orientation, SSM etc etc
I had to take my 2 year old into a men's restroom because the place I was at didn't have family restrooms. Luckily, it DID have a changing table in the men's room though I learned to do without those too if necessary.
Back in the day"" I went to a few or more SCA events with friends (dress up n medieval garb, make your own armor, all that mess) and the grounds these events were held on had unisex bathrooms. I was aware of my surroundings but beyond that it didn't phase me that men and women were using the same bathroom. There was even a joke with another SCA member who came in to the stall next to me because of my height, probably, who said "Don't peek now." to which I said "I won't if you don't" to which we laughed a bit then went about our business.
In 2004 my family and I "ran from" the three hurricanes that decided to come visit Florida. On the way back, roads were packed, facilities were packed, it was just miserable (a 9 hour drive back from the Carolinas was a 13 hour drive because of the situation). And whenever we stopped, everyone was using whatever facility had space because there were a lot of people on the road who just had to go and it didn't matter what sex used what bathroom.
Those are a few of my experiences and I doubt I'm the only one with such examples.
Ahhh. So now you would love to have legislature where only Conservatives (I am guessing only Republicans really) are allowed to use public facilities. That's not fascist at all.
*For the sarcastically impaired
Um...okay?
In this case it's true. People of different sexes are different. Race it's imaginary. And people of sexual orientation are only different in the relationships they choose.
How dramatic can you get? I have never had anyone introduce themselves to me with "I'm gay". Hell I didn't know one of the guys I went through nuke school with, even was at parties with, was gay for over a year and a half. Pretty sure this is a not what normally happens and very few people have ever actually did this to you or anyone else.
Perhaps they may think your gay and no need for the intro ! :lamo
What are you talking about? The vast majority of people do not introduce themselves as their sexuality or including their sexuality, no matter what your overexaggeration suggests. It may eventually come up, just like my having a husband and/or children sometimes comes up even when talking with strangers. Telling them something about my husband however isn't really overtly sharing my sexuality (although it does strongly suggest what my sexuality is).
Really ? Not around here , it's a badge of honor ! Hell they get metals at the WH for just being GAY ! :lamo
Well I don't. I don't need a medal.Well they except a metal of some sort ! :lamo
Pssst, if someone is out committing sexual crimes against children they could not care less about some bathroom law and would enter one way or the other. Maybe a little logic will help some conservatives see how stupid and useless such laws are to begin with.
Lib's are obsessed with perv's and sex , stay home and use your own bathroom ! :shock: PC gone too far . :roll:
I love how stupid it is to determine gender by what is between the ears instead of between the legs. :roll:
1.)Do people have a right to use a certain bathroom?
2.)In terms of scientific fact are MTF's in fact women?
3.) How exactly is it wrong to tell them they can't use the woman's bathroom when they are in fact not women?
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