I just got a text message from Bernie's campaign on my phone

[GreatNews2night]

LOL, if they knew how much I dislike Bernie Sanders they wouldn't have wasted their time and possibly the fees they may be paying to some mass message service.

This is spam. I blocked the sender and deleted the message. I got kind of angry just to think that they somehow got a hold of my cell phone number and disturbed my peace with the name of that imbecile on my screen. Eeew.

Bernie Sanders is a moron and a lunatic. As usual, I'll continue to expose that hypocrite, that vacuous populist, that opportunist, that loser, to all my friends and acquaintances, and will try my best to convince everybody I know NOT to vote for him in the primaries.

I'll do everything I can, as a private citizen, to prevent that from happening, such as donating to the campaign of whoever has a better chance at defeating him, but unfortunately, if God forbid he wins the Dem nomination, I'll still have to pinch my nose and vote for him in November because I consider that by a hair, he is slightly less bad than Donald Trump. Not by much. I call Bernie Sanders the Trump of the Left. His empty promises are equivalent to Trump saying that the Mexicans would pay for the wall.

 

[Bucky]

LOL, if they knew how much I dislike Bernie Sanders they wouldn't have wasted their time and possibly the fees they may be paying to some mass message service.

This is spam. I blocked the sender and deleted the message. I got kind of angry just to think that they somehow got a hold of my cell phone number and disturbed my peace with the name of that imbecile on my screen. Eeew.

Bernie Sanders is a moron and a lunatic. As usual, I'll continue to expose that hypocrite, that vacuous populist, that opportunist, that loser, to all my friends and acquaintances, and will try my best to convince everybody I know NOT to vote for him in the primaries.

I'll do everything I can, as a private citizen, to prevent that from happening, such as donating to the campaign of whoever has a better chance at defeating him, but unfortunately, if God forbid he wins the Dem nomination, I'll still have to pinch my nose and vote for him in November because I consider that by a hair, he is slightly less bad than Donald Trump. Not by much. I call Bernie Sanders the Trump of the Left. His empty promises are equivalent to Trump saying that the Mexicans would pay for the wall.

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I get countless of texts from Elizabeth Warren's campaign asking me to meet for some sort of rally. It is sad, and the numerous emails are pathetic.

 

[GreatNews2night]

I get countless of texts from Elizabeth Warren's campaign asking me to meet for some sort of rally. It is sad, and the numerous emails are pathetic.

I think that this unsolicited spam is more likely to turn people off against the candidate than to convince them to vote for the candidate. Who told these moronic campaign managers that this is a good idea? I would like to see data on whether or not bombarding voters with unwanted text and voice messages and phone calls do any good.

I think that door to door canvassing is probably helpful. Let's say, a person respectfully first asks the home owner if it is OK to have a conversation, and if the home owner declines, they say sorry for having disturbed you and leave immediately. If the home owner says yes, then the campaign activists initiate a friendly conversation, starting with "we won't presume that your political inclination favors our candidate; maybe you strongly favor his/her opponents, but we would like an opportunity to detail our candidate's platform if it is OK by you." If then the home owner says yes again, they proceed to expose what the candidate wants to do for people like that home owner.

That might work (and I actually did that for the Obama campaign in the past).

But all these unwanted messages to phones and emails with some bogus canned speech? I don't think they are likely to work; they are probably more likely to backfire. If I get a robocall even if it is from the campaign of a candidate I like, I tend to be irritated. Maybe social scientists and pollsters will prove me wrong, but that's my guess.

 

[PLizzy]

LOL, if they knew how much I dislike Bernie Sanders they wouldn't have wasted their time and possibly the fees they may be paying to some mass message service.

This is spam. I blocked the sender and deleted the message. I got kind of angry just to think that they somehow got a hold of my cell phone number and disturbed my peace with the name of that imbecile on my screen. Eeew.

Bernie Sanders is a moron and a lunatic. As usual, I'll continue to expose that hypocrite, that vacuous populist, that opportunist, that loser, to all my friends and acquaintances, and will try my best to convince everybody I know NOT to vote for him in the primaries.

I'll do everything I can, as a private citizen, to prevent that from happening, such as donating to the campaign of whoever has a better chance at defeating him, but unfortunately, if God forbid he wins the Dem nomination, I'll still have to pinch my nose and vote for him in November because I consider that by a hair, he is slightly less bad than Donald Trump. Not by much. I call Bernie Sanders the Trump of the Left. His empty promises are equivalent to Trump saying that the Mexicans would pay for the wall.

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I used to like Sanders a lot, but he's become unbearable.

When I hear his supporters cry that the primary was stolen from him, I can't help but cringe and secretly think "you guys sound like Trump supporters". Their delusions that Sanders would have beaten Trump are just pitiful to listen to. They can't accept the simple truth that as weak as Clinton was as a candidate, she still beat Sanders by a country mile, and that we would have lost even more votes to Trump had he been the nominee.

His supporters are cultish at this point. Not anyone near Trump supporter levels, but that's not saying much. Nobody is as good and pure Sanders. They hate Yang, Harris, O'Rouke, and even ****ing Warren. They feel that they should be able to point out whatever flaws the other candidates have (and many times they are right), but god damn you should you dare to question if Sanders might scare voters away with his class war rhetoric and obnoxious yelling.

There was no reason for Sanders to run when so many other progressives were in the race. The man simply hasn't gotten over being beaten by Clinton, and has been convinced by his supporters that he has no flaws to work through to win a general election, which is a recipe to lose.

 

[GreatNews2night]

I used to like Sanders a lot, but he's become unbearable.

When I hear his supporters cry that the primary was stolen from him, I can't help but cringe and secretly think "you guys sound like Trump supporters". Their delusions that Sanders would have beaten Trump are just pitiful to listen to. They can't accept the simple truth that as weak as Clinton was as a candidate, she still beat Sanders by a country mile, and that we would have lost even more votes to Trump had he been the nominee.

His supporters are cultish at this point. Not anyone near Trump supporter levels, but that's not saying much. Nobody is as good and pure Sanders. They hate Yang, Harris, O'Rouke, and even ****ing Warren. They feel that they should be able to point out whatever flaws the other candidates have (and many times they are right), but god damn you should you dare to question if Sanders might scare voters away with his class war rhetoric and obnoxious yelling.

There was no reason for Sanders to run when so many other progressives were in the race. The man simply hasn't gotten over being beaten by Clinton, and has been convinced by his supporters that he has no flaws to work through to win a general election, which is a recipe to lose.

Very well put.

In 2016, the claim that Sanders would beat Trump came from surveys that showed him a bit ahead of Trump in one-to-one contest, if he won the nomination. There are two major problems with that. First, it's a hypothetical. He wasn't a viable candidate. He wasn't able to win the nomination, even if no superdelegates existed (Hillary not only won the support of most delegates, super or not, but also, she won the popular vote by a mile, like you said). So, a hypothetical up in the air has no bearing on reality. Second, the ONLY reason Sanders was showing good numbers in that poll question, is that neither Trump nor Clinton wanted to attack him. So, he had the luxury of going through a full campaign without anybody ever seriously attacking him: Hillary because she was afraid of alienating his supporters once she won, and Trump, because he was delighted with the fact that he was weakening the real viable candidate, had no reason to attack him as he knew that Sanders would never win the nomination, and was also flirting with Sanders' followers, and some of them, the idiotic Bernie or Bust crowd, did vote for Trump.

Now, had Sanders by an impossible miracle managed to win the nomination, Trump and all his PACs would start attack mode immediately, scaring the public with shouts of Communist!, and detailing Sanders' many skeletons in the closet, like his distasteful statements about the sexuality of teenage girls that sound like pedophilia, his statement that married women when they are making love to their husbands secretly fantasize about being raped by strangers, his support for Sandinists who marched chanting Death to the Yankees, his wife's embezzlement past, and so on and so forth. That blurb of better numbers in polls would evaporate instantaneously.

By the way, if God forbid that loser still wins the nomination in 2020, these attacks will proceed exactly like I'm saying, and now even more, because the Medicare for All push is very scary to senior citizens who are the most reliable electoral demographic.

The loser known as Bernie Sanders managed to lose by a mile to the worst and most unpopular candidate ever, one who is even beaten by the horrible Donald Trump! What a big loser, Bernie Sanders!

Oh, the DNC stole the primaries for him? That had marginal effect. Sure, they supported the real party member, not the fake one who yells all the time that he is an independent, until it's convenient for him to run as a Democrat, which doesn't stop him from bashing the very party rules he promised to abide by when he joined. But what is claimed was actually inconsequential. The infamous stolen email by a low level DNC staffer saying that they should use against Sanders the fact that he is a Jew, went nowhere. No higher ups endorsed it, and the stupid idea was never put in practice. And so on and so forth, some comments about Bernie's stupid push that was damaging the party's chances, nothing major, and these crybabies will say that it was stolen from him. What exactly was stolen, given that he never had the popular vote, and mostly won caucus states, winning a very small number of states when the primaries there were popular vote rather than caucuses?

What makes these Bernie bros assume that if Bernie couldn't even have the majority of Democratic voters, that he would have the majority of the entire rest of America? Did they think that the Republicans would vote for him? LOL. Like you said, Bernie would have lost to Trump by even bigger numbers in real life, regardless of what the hypothetic poll was saying at a time when nobody was attacking Bernie.

 

[Nalu]

LOL, if they knew how much I dislike Bernie Sanders they wouldn't have wasted their time and possibly the fees they may be paying to some mass message service.

This is spam. I blocked the sender and deleted the message. I got kind of angry just to think that they somehow got a hold of my cell phone number and disturbed my peace with the name of that imbecile on my screen. Eeew.

Bernie Sanders is a moron and a lunatic. As usual, I'll continue to expose that hypocrite, that vacuous populist, that opportunist, that loser, to all my friends and acquaintances, and will try my best to convince everybody I know NOT to vote for him in the primaries.

I'll do everything I can, as a private citizen, to prevent that from happening, such as donating to the campaign of whoever has a better chance at defeating him, but unfortunately, if God forbid he wins the Dem nomination, I'll still have to pinch my nose and vote for him in November because I consider that by a hair, he is slightly less bad than Donald Trump. Not by much. I call Bernie Sanders the Trump of the Left. His empty promises are equivalent to Trump saying that the Mexicans would pay for the wall.

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Did you not have a land line when telemarketers were a thing?

 

[3leftsdoo]

Bernie = Triggering liberals since 2016

 

[GreatNews2night]

Did you not have a land line when telemarketers were a thing?

What's your point? Yes, it was annoying, and that's one of the reasons why I no longer have a landline. I only have a cell phone now, same with my wife.

 

[Nalu]

What's your point? Yes, it was annoying, and that's one of the reasons why I no longer have a landline. I only have a cell phone now, same with my wife.

It was a question. Calm down. Based on your posts and your overreactions, you're obviously more upset about Sanders than about the text message. Tell them not to contact you again and move on with your life.

 

[PLizzy]

Very well put.

In 2016, the claim that Sanders would beat Trump came from surveys that showed him a bit ahead of Trump in one-to-one contest, if he won the nomination. There are two major problems with that. First, it's a hypothetical. He wasn't a viable candidate. He wasn't able to win the nomination, even if no superdelegates existed (Hillary not only won the support of most delegates, super or not, but also, she won the popular vote by a mile, like you said). So, a hypothetical up in the air has no bearing on reality. Second, the ONLY reason Sanders was showing good numbers in that poll question, is that neither Trump nor Clinton wanted to attack him. So, he had the luxury of going through a full campaign without anybody ever seriously attacking him: Hillary because she was afraid of alienating his supporters once she won, and Trump, because he was delighted with the fact that he was weakening the real viable candidate, had no reason to attack him as he knew that Sanders would never win the nomination, and was also flirting with Sanders' followers, and some of them, the idiotic Bernie or Bust crowd, did vote for Trump.

Now, had Sanders by an impossible miracle managed to win the nomination, Trump and all his PACs would start attack mode immediately, scaring the public with shouts of Communist!, and detailing Sanders' many skeletons in the closet, like his distasteful statements about the sexuality of teenage girls that sound like pedophilia, his statement that married women when they are making love to their husbands secretly fantasize about being raped by strangers, his support for Sandinists who marched chanting Death to the Yankees, his wife's embezzlement past, and so on and so forth. That blurb of better numbers in polls would evaporate instantaneously.

By the way, if God forbid that loser still wins the nomination in 2020, these attacks will proceed exactly like I'm saying, and now even more, because the Medicare for All push is very scary to senior citizens who are the most reliable electoral demographic.

The loser known as Bernie Sanders managed to lose by a mile to the worst and most unpopular candidate ever, one who is even beaten by the horrible Donald Trump! What a big loser, Bernie Sanders!

Oh, the DNC stole the primaries for him? That had marginal effect. Sure, they supported the real party member, not the fake one who yells all the time that he is an independent, until it's convenient for him to run as a Democrat, which doesn't stop him from bashing the very party rules he promised to abide by when he joined. But what is claimed was actually inconsequential. The infamous stolen email by a low level DNC staffer saying that they should use against Sanders the fact that he is a Jew, went nowhere. No higher ups endorsed it, and the stupid idea was never put in practice. And so on and so forth, some comments about Bernie's stupid push that was damaging the party's chances, nothing major, and these crybabies will say that it was stolen from him. What exactly was stolen, given that he never had the popular vote, and mostly won caucus states, winning a very small number of states when the primaries there were popular vote rather than caucuses?

What makes these Bernie bros assume that if Bernie couldn't even have the majority of Democratic voters, that he would have the majority of the entire rest of America? Did they think that the Republicans would vote for him? LOL. Like you said, Bernie would have lost to Trump by even bigger numbers in real life, regardless of what the hypothetic poll was saying at a time when nobody was attacking Bernie.

Well, some of the statements you alluded you are somewhat out of context, but I get what you're saying in that Sanders has a past of making reckless analogies and whatnot.

Head to heads mean nothing a year and a half from an election. Sanders would no doubt win in Michigan and Pennsylvania, but I don't see him winning any other states back, and the problem with that is Democrats need a hat trick of some combo of three or more between Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. Sander's only has two in him, and that's not enough.

I was wondering not long ago how in the world Biden could possibly win the primary. He had a terrible debate record (before the last one) and just didn't seem to have it in him. Then it seemed like Harris, Warren, Booker, and Sanders just crashed into each other like clown cars, and destroyed each others campaigns like total amateurs in the past six weeks. :lol:

Now that Biden has found his footing (late as it may be) and the impeachment has ironically (for Trump) made Biden more likely to be his opponent, it looks likely that he will be the nominee at this stage in time, unless something drastic happens again.

 

[GreatNews2night]

Well, some of the statements you alluded you are somewhat out of context, but I get what you're saying in that Sanders has a past of making reckless analogies and whatnot.

Head to heads mean nothing a year and a half from an election. Sanders would no doubt win in Michigan and Pennsylvania, but I don't see him winning any other states back, and the problem with that is Democrats need a hat trick of some combo of three or more between Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. Sander's only has two in him, and that's not enough.

I was wondering not long ago how in the world Biden could possibly win the primary. He had a terrible debate record (before the last one) and just didn't seem to have it in him. Then it seemed like Harris, Warren, Booker, and Sanders just crashed into each other like clown cars, and destroyed each others campaigns like total amateurs in the past six weeks. :lol:

Now that Biden has found his footing (late as it may be) and the impeachment has ironically (for Trump) made Biden more likely to be his opponent, it looks likely that he will be the nominee at this stage in time, unless something drastic happens again.

Yes, I'm not saying that I'd endorse the inevitable attacks on Sanders as valid. I'm just saying what they would (will) likely use against him, and these attacks would be effective. Yes, they are out of context but has that ever stopped the conniving Republicans and their lying PACs? Remember Kerry and the Swift Boat attacks? These would be similar, and actually nearer reality, since Sanders did issue these controversial statements while the Swift Boat thing was a total fabrication. Yes, Sanders has his skeletons in the closet and his weaknesses, and they would be thoroughly exploited if by miracle he won the 2016 Dem primary. His lead over Trump would evaporate. Can you imagine suburban women voting for him after their TVs got bombarded by PAC ads with Bernie saying that they secretly want to be raped? And he said that all men get turned on by teenager girls... and in his voting records, voted for sweetening sentence guidelines for pedophiles... How would those sound bites be received by these suburban wives who have teenage daughters?

Bernie is terrible in debates. He tends to become this lunatic insisting on the one-trick poney that millionaires and billionaires are the source of all evil. His message appears stagnant and rancid. He ran on this in 2016 and lost badly, but hasn't changed his tune. He lost when he was the only progressive... now the progressive vote is divided among many, and his followers expect that he'll win? Bernie this time will lose even more badly than in 2016.

And then, mark my words, his followers will whine again and blame everyone else but their pure idol.

 

[GreatNews2night]

It was a question. Calm down. Based on your posts and your overreactions, you're obviously more upset about Sanders than about the text message. Tell them not to contact you again and move on with your life.

Yes, you got that right. The event with the text message just functioned as the catalyst that reminded me of how much I dislike Bernie.

Why should I move on?

I'll move on when Bernie Sanders drops out of the Dem primary race.

 

[GreatNews2night]

and the impeachment has ironically (for Trump) made Biden more likely to be his opponent, it looks likely that he will be the nominee at this stage in time, unless something drastic happens again.

I'm curious about this. Why do you say that the impeachment will make it more likely for Biden to be Trump's opponent? I don't get it. The Republicans will insist even more on smearing Biden as corrupt in relationship with Ukraine even though it is a completely baseless conspiracy theory - I've posted links before, detailing how the timeline doesn't make sense, given that Burisma was investigated by the fired prosecutor's office (when he wasn't even the chief prosecutor yet) from 2010 to 2012 and Hunter Biden only joined the company in 2014; at the time of Biden's interference (on Obama's orders; don't shoot the messenger) in 2015, the corrupt prosecutor was NOT investigating Burisma so Biden's actions have NOTHING to do with favoring his son's employer.

 

[enderpotato00]

I would never vote for them anyway, even if I got texts, calls, etc. I don't vote for democrats

 

[Greenbeard]

Bernie is terrible in debates. He tends to become this lunatic insisting on the one-trick poney that millionaires and billionaires are the source of all evil.

Just billionaires now. If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too!

 

[PLizzy]

I'm curious about this. Why do you say that the impeachment will make it more likely for Biden to be Trump's opponent? I don't get it. The Republicans will insist even more on smearing Biden as corrupt in relationship with Ukraine even though it is a completely baseless conspiracy theory - I've posted links before, detailing how the timeline doesn't make sense, given that Burisma was investigated by the fired prosecutor's office (when he wasn't even the chief prosecutor yet) from 2010 to 2012 and Hunter Biden only joined the company in 2014; at the time of Biden's interference (on Obama's orders; don't shoot the messenger) in 2015, the corrupt prosecutor was NOT investigating Burisma so Biden's actions have NOTHING to do with favoring his son's employer.

Because the scheme that's been detailed to the public revealed that Trump deeply fears facing Biden next year, and doesn't believe he can win a straight fight against him. Everyone knows that Republicans don't just bring out conspiracy theories and target families members for rivals they believe are not serious threats. Those are weapons they reserve for their most dangerous opposition. Think back to 2008 when they were pimping conspiracies about Obama's being born in Kenya and him being a secret communist.

Voters have been asking since June "who's the most electable" and have gone back and forth between various candidates, with Biden ironically enough looking weak at most points. But this little scheme that Trump pulled gave Biden the Republican seal of electability stamp, and it helped Biden's standing immeasurably at a time he needed it most.

 

[Nalu]

Yes, you got that right. The event with the text message just functioned as the catalyst that reminded me of how much I dislike Bernie.

Why should I move on?

I'll move on when Bernie Sanders drops out of the Dem primary race.

It's your life.

 

[GreatNews2night]

It's your life.

Yes, indeed, it's mine, so please refrain from this sort of "move on" advice. I'm not in any distress and in any need to move on; thanks but no, thanks. I just profoundly dislike that loser Bernie Sanders and look forward to the day when he'll lose a primary presidential race, again.

 

[Nalu]

Yes, indeed, it's mine, so please refrain from this sort of "move on" advice. I'm not in any distress and in any need to move on; thanks but no, thanks. I just profoundly dislike that loser Bernie Sanders and look forward to the day when he'll lose a primary presidential race, again.

I'm not going to adhere to your "refrain" advice any more than you adhere to my "move on" advice.