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I am Israel short documentary

You got the name wrong, Israel is somebody else. :)
 
Can you tell me what the background music is?

I know I heard it somewhere before - a 9/11 Truth video maybe? :confused:
 
You are Israel?

You look more like a nazi spambot.
 
The ones about control and unjustice, of course.
 
Well, no country should be able to act as such without any other country asking or telling them to stop. Just because this was the premise for other nations to come into existence, doesn't mean it is right in this day and age.
 
Well, no country should be able to act as such without any other country asking or telling them to stop.
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Why? Let me guess cause the world changed after WW2, spare me the BS.

Just because this was the premise for other nations to come into existence, doesn't mean it is right in this day and age
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Oh brother, how predictable.This day and age is the same as any other day and age, we just have cooler gadgets.
 
World War II changed nothing, things like the internet did.
 
Of course there are many flaws in the way people use this power, for example 4chan, but there should be at least a few people using it to their advantage and educating the public. Like the Thread starter, might be propaganda, but at least it has some truth.
 
Tecumseh1 said:
Of course there are many flaws in the way people use this power, for example 4chan, but there should be at least a few people using it to their advantage and educating the public. Like the Thread starter, might be propaganda, but at least it has some truth.
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Ok can you tell me, how the internet changed human nature or how people percieve events? Or are you repeating what your Social Studies Teacher told you?
 
No doubt you've met people on the internet from places you've never been, heard their stories and formed opinions about them. Would you known about these places with as much detail without that persons point of view?
 
Tecumseh1 said:
No doubt you've met people on the internet from places you've never been, heard their stories and formed opinions about them. Would you known about these places with as much detail without that persons point of view?
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Yes there was this guy GutenBerg and this thing called the printing press......
 
Tecumseh1 said:
Of course there are many flaws in the way people use this power, for example 4chan, but there should be at least a few people using it to their advantage and educating the public. Like the Thread starter, might be propaganda, but at least it has some truth.
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Oh, the wonders of the internet where a spam bot can introcuce an obvious hate video to a discussion group and those who know nothing at all about the subject matter talk in glowing terms about its ability to "educate".
 
Tecumseh1 said:
Of course there are many flaws in the way people use this power, for example 4chan, but there should be at least a few people using it to their advantage and educating the public. Like the Thread starter, might be propaganda, but at least it has some truth.
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The only truth I found there is that Israel has F-16s. :2razz:
 
I think poeple in general have their our own problems from paying bills and not loosing our jobs.

whatever injustice is happening far away is the last thing on our minds.
 
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I think poeple in general have their our own problems from paying bills and not loosing our jobs.

whatever injustice is happening far away is the last thing on our minds.
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Not at all, there's a reason why people are concerned with places like Iran, where injustice is done to the people.
It's just that people here are not likely to give a ear to such an obvious propaganda, that mind you, is filled with obvious false statements.

Perhaps next time your propaganda should be a bit less extremist, so it would have a chance to attract the more leftist side of this board. ;)
 
Apocalypse said:
Not at all, there's a reason why people are concerned with places like Iran, where injustice is done to the people.
It's just that people here are not likely to give a ear to such an obvious propaganda, that mind you, is filled with obvious false statements.

Perhaps next time your propaganda should be a bit less extremist, so it would have a chance to attract the more leftist side of this board. ;)
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I do love how anything that criticises Israel is simply dismissed as biased and filled with falsehood. So lets take a look at some of the things listed in the video.

Were some of Israel leaders implicated in the slaughter of inncoent Arabs? Yes. Were they convicted. No. Were they ever brought to trail? No. Might this bother Arabs just slightly? Yes. If Israeli leaders are painting Arabs as ecessively violent, isn't this kinda a direct rebuttal to that statement? The proverbial pot calling the kettle black?

were there no Arabs in Palestine when Israel began mass migrations to the area? Yes. Did they all leave voluntarily? Nope.

Is there a wall that separates Palestine from Israel, and does that wall extend into areas that Palestinians quite obviously consider the West Bank and E. Jerusalem? Yes. Might this kind be annoying the Palestinians? Yep.

To state that this video is biased is obvious. It is a deliberate rebuttal to Israeli propogranda that continuously preaches, falsely I might add, that Arabs cannot be reasoned with and respect only strength, ergo we HAVE to kill them to keep them quiet.

The problem is not that this is biased, the problem is that this is the Palestinian point of view and that it resonates throughout the Middle East, large portions of Euroep and with growing numbers of Americans. The three monkey's approach, hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil doesn't work in an age of instantaneous press coverage. The forth monkey, attack any criticism as invalid won't extent the effectiveness of the later indefinitely.

So that thorny question come back to us: How exactly is Israel going to handle this?

Are we going to attack Palestinian and put them squarely under our thumb? THat will require a great deal of economic and military resources, and given the Arab neighborhood that Israel find itself in, may very well not work.

Are we going to give teh Palestinians a state and then help them build and effective system of governance, linking them to the Israeli economy, and building peaceful relations based on mutual respect and interdependance?

Kinda hard to do the latter while you are attempting to sell the world on Arab and Persian nefariousness and lack of higher brain power relying on base instinct as a basis for partnership. That would be the Israeli version of this video, and it is equally as baised.

In the lack of any changes, these propoganda campaigns will suceed in only one thing: polarization of the two sides and eventual violent confrontation.

If this Palestinians are to be faulted for presneting thei point of view, then so to should the Israeli for preseneting their equally biased point of view. What is needed is moderation and the acceptance that both sides are part of the problem and part of the solution.

Only then can we start building the relationships that peace rests upon, or I suppose we can continue the head long rush into armed conflict .... with a reminder that Israel's latest military adventures haven't come off quite the way they thought would.
 
That's a piece-a-crap revisionist history docu-drama if I ever seen one. Put together well, unless you're into actual historical facts.

Why is it that historical facts seem to escape most folks? No doubt for some, it's intentional, but surely not for everyone.
 
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