Hussein Obama

[faithful_servant]

Now I have no intention of voting to Obama for president, my reasons are most definately NOT this preposterous ****.

"I suspected he was a muslim"? So the **** what? His father who left him as a small child was a radical muslim? Oh yeah, that sounds ****ing relevent in what kind of president he would be! :roll:

Obama may not be qualified for POTUS, but it's not because of his upbringing or his middle name. I'm inclined to believe that he is a Christian until I see evidence otherwise, so the assertions that he's a muslim in disuguise is unsupported by the evidence that we have. NPs post is pure conjecture.
Personally, thefact that he's a "ex-muslim" makes him a little more interesting from an int'l perspective. There are muslims who believe that if you leave the muslim faith, you should be killed, so if Obama's conversion to Christianity is accepted and publically known, it should make him a marked man for some of the more extremist muslims.

 

[faithful_servant]

He has only converted recently and it could have been for political reasons since he starting running for elective office..........Nah....

Or it could be because he met the reality of Jesus Christ as his Savior. NP, not everyone in politics is a liar and I'm willing to give Obama the opportunity to show what kind of Christian he is. IMO, you're looking for reasons to hate the man and slander his reputation. If you want to attack him, attack him using facts, not conjecture.

 

[faithful_servant]

I don't hate anyone...........I just have a problem electing a guy to president who secretly might be a follower of Bin Laden and Gihad..I am strange that way.........:roll:

NP, anyone could secretly be a follower of bin Laden, from the President to Hillary to your grandchildren.

 

[shuamort]

Do you want this guy to be your president?

:roll:

 

[Apostle13]

Or it could be because he met the reality of Jesus Christ as his Savior. NP, not everyone in politics is a liar and I'm willing to give Obama the opportunity to show what kind of Christian he is. IMO, you're looking for reasons to hate the man and slander his reputation. If you want to attack him, attack him using facts, not conjecture.

What kind of Christian is he..? Well to me this can be evident on his abortion stance alone... Google for yourself.
Personally, I've reservations for anyone calling themselves "Christian" while being pro-abortion... Especially the higher controversy concerning partial birth abortion.

 

[Caine]

What kind of Christian is he..? Well to me this can be evident on his abortion stance alone... Google for yourself.
Personally, I've reservations for anyone calling themselves "Christian" while being pro-abortion... Especially the higher controversy concerning partial birth abortion.

So... youve seen him holding a picket sign that says, "KILL YOUR BABIES NOW!"?????

Strange... I always thought his stance was called PRO-CHOICE.

Then again... maybe I am being too fair huh? Im supposed to be intellectually dishonest!.

 

[Navy Pride]

NP, anyone could secretly be a follower of bin Laden, from the President to Hillary to your grandchildren.

Yeah but a Muslim by the name of Hussien might be a little more dangerous as a follower of Bin Laden then a little old lady from Pasedena......

 

[jallman]

So... youve seen him holding a picket sign that says, "KILL YOUR BABIES NOW!"?????

Strange... I always thought his stance was called PRO-CHOICE.

Then again... maybe I am being too fair huh? Im supposed to be intellectually dishonest!.

Caine,

The pro-life side have no comprehension of pro-choice. The idea makes their head come close to implosion. It is because they don't believe in America and the principle that liberty, choice (not just where abortion is concerned), and freedom reign supreme over mob rule. Personal conviction out-weighs the hysterics of the masses in my America. There is a choice for a woman...to have a child or to not have a child. There is a choice of adoption, the choice of birth control, the choice of parenthood, and yes a choice of abortion in the event of an unwanted biological condition. They have to resort to histrionic, over the top hysterical hyperbole when confronting the pro-choice philosophy. They can't call it choice because to say they are against those that are "for choice" is to say that they are anti-choice and thus, anti-liberty and, by transitive property, anti-American. It's funny how they say that are so anti-abortion, yet when confronting a pro-choicer, all they focus on is the choice of abortion and none of the other beautiful choices a woman has at her disposal.

 

[jallman]

Yeah but a Muslim by the name of Hussien might be a little more dangerous as a follower of Bin Laden then a little old lady from Pasedena......

There...you know what...you just lost all credibility on this topic for good. You are more concerned with his name than who he is. You are doing nothing more than trying to force a correlation of character because of a correlation of name. Hell, charles manson was a serial killer. Does that mean anyone named charles should always be suspect? You really amaze me sometimes, my friend. :2wave:

 

[talloulou]

There...you know what...you just lost all credibility on this topic for good. You are more concerned with his name than who he is. You are doing nothing more than trying to force a correlation of character because of a correlation of name. Hell, charles manson was a serial killer. Does that mean anyone named charles should always be suspect? You really amaze me sometimes, my friend. :2wave:

I don't care much about his name. However I am concerned that he attended Muslim schools abroad as a kid and had a muslim father. Makes me think he might be more sympathetic to the Muslims raising hell in the middle east. That's why I wouldn't vote for him. I get that I could be way off but as I don't get to personally know him I have to make assumptions and his background gets weighed in for those assumptions. I know it's horrible but there's just no way in hell I'd vote for someone with a Muslim background like the one he has. I know he says he isn't Muslim but I've seen videos on Muslim schools abroad and all I can say is :shock: ! And while he may have rejected all that dogma just as I've rejected all the catholicism I was raised on I'm afraid the venue and arena in which political races take place wouldn't be enough for me to really know him and put my fears aside.

 

[talloulou]

What the hell are you talking about?! Did you forget to take your pills? Man, did I not just say that I don't intend on voting for him (from which a reasonable person would take that I do not want to have him as president)? I did, I don't think he has nearly enough experience, and I think the Bush presidency is proof that that is not ignorable. I think he's too liberal, and I don't know if he's gonna grow out of that, but you never know, Trent Lott used to be a democrat.

But just because I don't think he's a sleeper cell terrorist you think I want him to be president? Do you honestly think that all I'm looking for in a president is "not a sleeper cell terrorist"?

****ing psycho

I don't think he's a sleeper cell terrorist. I just think he might be more sympathetic to terrorists who are muslim.

 

[Caine]

I don't think he's a sleeper cell terrorist. I just think he might be more sympathetic to terrorists who are muslim.

So, because you were involved in catholicism. Im going to find you to be more sympathetic to child molesting priests.

And, im also going to find you to be more sympathetic to abortion clinic bombers.

And Im also going to find you to be more sympathetic to the KKK (since your a christian).

And.....
And.....

 

[cherokee]

Well I wont vote for him because I dont think he can do the job...The person I want in office wont run...
Now I wouldnt mind seeing Powell running as the first black.

 

[talloulou]

So, because you were involved in catholicism. Im going to find you to be more sympathetic to child molesting priests.

And, im also going to find you to be more sympathetic to abortion clinic bombers.

And Im also going to find you to be more sympathetic to the KKK (since your a christian).

And.....
And.....

I know it's horrible but since I don't have the opportunity to actually "know" him I have to judge him by what I do know.

Do all priests molest alter boys? No. Do I want my son to be an alter boy? No :rofl

And quite frankly I haven't witnessed enough Muslim outrage over the way their religion has been hijacked and so quite honestly I'm a little weary over all things Muslim.

I do plan on reading Obama's book though and I have been wrong before so it is possible that I will gain enough insight from his book to feel differently.

 

[Navy Pride]

I know it's horrible but since I don't have the opportunity to actually "know" him I have to judge him by what I do know.

Do all priests molest alter boys? No. Do I want my son to be an alter boy? No :rofl

And quite frankly I haven't witnessed enough Muslim outrage over the way their religion has been hijacked and so quite honestly I'm a little weary over all things Muslim.

I do plan on reading Obama's book though and I have been wrong before so it is possible that I will gain enough insight from his book to feel differently.

Actually as he always does Caine is taking off the subject but the facts are that about 1% of all priests were actually gay pedophiles................He would love to paint all Catholic priests with the same brush...........Typical.........

Oh and by the way My two sons and I all went to Catholic school and were Altar Boys and are proud of it............I would not worry about your son being and altar boy........

 

[jallman]

Actually as he always does Caine is taking off the subject but the facts are that about 1% of all priests were actually gay pedophiles................He would love to paint all Catholic priests with the same brush...........Typical.........

Oh and by the way My two sons and I all went to Catholic school and were Altar Boys and are proud of it............I would not worry about your son being and altar boy........

Yeah and then there's me. I was an altar boy and look how I turned out. :3oops:

 

[Apostle13]

So... youve seen him holding a picket sign that says, "KILL YOUR BABIES NOW!"?????

Strange... I always thought his stance was called PRO-CHOICE.

Then again... maybe I am being too fair huh? Im supposed to be intellectually dishonest!.

Before it was "pro-choice" it was pro-abortion. All that it is, is pro-abortionists' subtle method for to sugar coat murder by reason; convenience. Much in the same manner homosexuals prefer "gay" as opposed to first queer/fag... Then they go and adopt biblical symbolism from the bible (rainbow) to forward agendas/promote acceptance as if in a more righteous light this "alternative lifestyle".
I will stand-up and speak-out for the voiceless/defenseless by all manner and means weather it be by counsel, or vote.

 

[Caine]

.He would love to paint all Catholic priests with the same brush...........Typical.........

Well isn't this ****ing hilarious.
You sit there and say I am wrong for painting all Catholic priests with the same brush, while your ENTIRE thread here is based off of Painting Obama (a Christian) with the same brush as Bin Laden, all because Osama's dad was a muslim and Osama attended muslim schools for a short time.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
I can't possibly understand how you can sit there and not see the reason why I made such sweeping generalizations about catholics. It was to show the ridiculousness of your premise here in this thread.

Talloulou got it.... I guess you haven't been taking your Ginko Biloba today.
Think a little harder, read the entire post when one it made, and respond to the pertinent parts of the post rather than one liners.

Oh and by the way My two sons and I all went to Catholic school and were Altar Boys and are proud of it............I would not worry about your son being and altar boy........

Good, you shouldn't worry about my son being "and" altar boy.
Because Im not catholic....

But I guess you are judging me now because im not catholic huh?
I must be EVIL!!!!!! :roll::roll::roll:

 

[Caine]

Before it was "pro-choice" it was pro-abortion.

Because bastards like you were the start of the debate. Those who wanted to force their moral beliefs into political agenda limiting the freedoms of others.

All that it is, is pro-abortionists' subtle method for to sugar coat murder by reason; convenience.

If you can't determine the difference between someone advocating everyone go out and abort their children, and those who believe that the decision should be left up to the mother than I don't know how to help you. You must have a few screws loose in the head. A few fries short of a happy meal. I bet your one of those evangelical types who are scared shitless because Pat Robertson recently had words with god and god told him that there would be a massacre in the US this year. :roll:

I will stand-up and speak-out for the voiceless/defenseless by all manner and means weather it be by counsel, or vote.

And your comments about gays in this post have proven that you will speak out for the voiceless/defenseless prejudiced bigots.
"Weather it be by counsel" suggest that you are a lawyer.

Are you the lawyer for the KKK????

 

[talloulou]

Because bastards like you were the start of the debate. Those who wanted to force their moral beliefs into political agenda limiting the freedoms of others.

I thought it was Norma McCorvey AKA Jane Roe who started the debate because biatch wanted to kill her baby and now after having had years to think about she's done a complete turn around and is completely prolife and thankful that she didn't have an abortion. She's a grandma and all.

I wouldn't vote for her for president either. :mrgreen:

 

[Navy Pride]

Before it was "pro-choice" it was pro-abortion. All that it is, is pro-abortionists' subtle method for to sugar coat murder by reason; convenience. Much in the same manner homosexuals prefer "gay" as opposed to first queer/fag... Then they go and adopt biblical symbolism from the bible (rainbow) to forward agendas/promote acceptance as if in a more righteous light this "alternative lifestyle".
I will stand-up and speak-out for the voiceless/defenseless by all manner and means weather it be by counsel, or vote.

Pro choice just sounds better.....When you get down to it pro choice and pro abortion are the same......They are both for butchering the baby in the womb......

 

[Navy Pride]

Yeah and then there's me. I was an altar boy and look how I turned out. :3oops:

For whatever its worth I think you turned out fine my friend.........

 

[Thelost1]

Pro choice just sounds better.....When you get down to it pro choice and pro abortion are the same......They are both for butchering the baby in the womb......

That's funny. It shows a real lack of understanding.

 

[Apostle13]

Because bastards like you were the start of the debate. Those who wanted to force their moral beliefs into political agenda limiting the freedoms of others.
If you can't determine the difference between someone advocating everyone go out and abort their children, and those who believe that the decision should be left up to the mother than I don't know how to help you. You must have a few screws loose in the head. A few fries short of a happy meal. I bet your one of those evangelical types who are scared shitless because Pat Robertson recently had words with god and god told him that there would be a massacre in the US this year. :roll:



And your comments about gays in this post have proven that you will speak out for the voiceless/defenseless prejudiced bigots.
"Weather it be by counsel" suggest that you are a lawyer.

Are you the lawyer for the KKK????

Your idiot assumptions concerning me are quite laughable and well reflect your mental mishap... Did your mommy drop you as a baby..?
I've heard all the spin given by pro-choicers... None of which negates their willful and murderous intent. Will a child call out from the womb, "No please mommy No!" With a certainty, I tell you he/she would, if only they could... But they cannot, so I when given an opportunity will speak for them. Whereby I have counseled many and not one mother/father has returned to me expressing regret for having had the child... Only the contrary.
On the flip... I have also consoled them that have in their shame and remorse.
I sir, am a pastor.
Now if you'll excuse me... I've a flock to fleece..:2wave:

 

[Apostle13]

:doh Why do I have the distinct notion those last two lines in my previous post will wind up in someones sig...:rofl