Hussein Obama

[Apostle13]

Thanks, but I am not now and never have been in need of "counseling" from self-proclaimed "pastors" who want to see what I look like in a bikini. :roll:
I grew up with nuns and priests, and that was bad enough.

Don't flatter yourself... I don't really care what you look like in a bikini... 'Twas an indirect compliment as to the nature of your physical attractiveness as was presented... I'm natured to be nice.
My "self-proclaimed" is that what you will.
Catholicism is off the mark... My sympathies there.

 

[Caine]

Damn... look what I done and started.. Another boring *** abortion thread where emotional folks cry about the unborn and other folks cry about religious zealots.

Hey.. lets get back on the topic here.....

Which would be bashing Navy Pride for posting such an idiotic OP intended to make Obama look bad just because of his childhood :roll:

 

[cherokee]

Damn... look what I done and started.. Another boring *** abortion thread where emotional folks cry about the unborn and other folks cry about religious zealots.

Hey.. lets get back on the topic here.....

Which would be bashing Navy Pride for posting such an idiotic OP intended to make Obama look bad just because of his childhood :roll:

Hang on there bud I wouldnt mind seeing the bikini pic's of 1069.....:lol:

 

[1069]

Hey.. lets get back on the topic here.....

Which would be bashing Navy Pride for posting such an idiotic OP ...

... And bashing NP is the opposite of "boring"? :roll:
I'd as soon yank my dear old grandpa out of his wheelchair and kick the living shite out of him; that's about how interesting and challenging "NP-bashing" is to me.
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But admittedly, "religious-zealot-bashing" is beginning to lose its zing, as well.

 

[Navy Pride]

And what was it that Jesus said about judging, Mr. Christian?

I judge no one....God will judge all of us and unlike you and 1069 I am against burchery in the womb..........

 

[Iriemon]

A fair point. However secular.

Here we digress. In many cultures it is considered insulting to reject a gift given by another. This too is the nature of God. The bible tells us (Christians) in Psalms 127 that children are a gift from God... How much worse is it to reject God's gifting..?
Even His own Son.

Fair enough, if you agree my position is reasoned from a secular perspective, we can debate the issue from the theological. I do not see in the Bible a proscription against abortion.

 

[Adrian]

So got any good dead baby jokes you wish to share?

Ooh, I got one!

"All my friends are always telling me how hard it is to have kids 'Oh, David, it's so hard.' That's not hard. I'll tell you what hard is. Try talking your girlfriend into her third consecutive abortion..."

-David Cross

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Navy: You sad, sad, old f^ck! Does your stupidity ever end?
At least the outright racists can say "I won't vote for him cuz he's a n!gger." You don't even have that.
Sometimes I wish you were my neighbor so I could go over to your house, elevate your hospital bed, and slap the holy sh!t out of you.

 

[Navy Pride]

Navy: You sad, sad, old f^ck! Does your stupidity ever end?
At least the outright racists can say "I won't vote for him cuz he's a n!gger." You don't even have that.
Sometimes I wish you were my neighbor so I could go over to your house, elevate your hospital bed, and slap the holy sh!t out of you.

Hey **** for brains I would vote for and African American in a heartbeat if my views were in line with his so you can kiss my rosy round *** driizle dick.......You might try and slap the hell out of me but you would get up and try it again.........I have dealt with scum like you my whole life........all talk no action........

Oh and I know its the basement but how about holding off on the rascist names............

 

[cherokee]

Navy: You sad, sad, old f^ck! Does your stupidity ever end?
At least the outright racists can say "I won't vote for him cuz he's a n!gger." You don't even have that.
Sometimes I wish you were my neighbor so I could go over to your house, elevate your hospital bed, and slap the holy sh!t out of you.

Tell me something did he post he was a racist?
Did he say "he wouldn’t vote for a n*gger"?

If not then how about you shut the f.u.c.k. up..

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Tell me something did he post he was a racist?
Did he say "he wouldn’t vote for a n*gger"?

If not then how about you shut the f.u.c.k. up..

Was what I wrote too complex for you? Navy says something of the sort "Obama is a muslim, how can anyone vote for some sleeper agent? His middle name proves that he hates freedom, etc."

I never wrote that that was what he said, I was making a comparison (perhaps a bad one), so how about you calm the ***** down.

 

[Apostle13]

Fair enough, if you agree my position is reasoned from a secular perspective, we can debate the issue from the theological. I do not see in the Bible a proscription against abortion.

If we go bottom line straight to question; When does life begin?
Now in the following of my logic I project myself forward to judgment... It is common in my experiences to find many abortions, while ultimately the womans choice, were either encouraged/not discouraged by their partner in dilemma. If in fact this is murder then in case either, and at its least, the man becomes accessory to. Had he gone to all reasonable ends to prevent her. Then his conscience would otherwise remain clear. As a Christian beyond saying, I strongly am convinced abortion is murder. Aside from even that, and in foward projection, I would yet be wise to err on the side of caution.

Hebrews 10: 26-11;
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Now God's forgiveness begins with our(believers) own acknowledgment/confessions of sin. This goes without compromise.

 

[BodiSatva]

Originally Posted by Doremus Jessup
Was what I wrote too complex for you? Navy says something of the sort "Obama is a muslim, how can anyone vote for some sleeper agent? His middle name proves that he hates freedom, etc."

I never wrote that that was what he said, I was making a comparison (perhaps a bad one), so how about you calm the ***** down.

I think that Cherokee was talkign to NP there buddy...
Chill out.

 

[cherokee]

Was what I wrote too complex for you? Navy says something of the sort "Obama is a muslim, how can anyone vote for some sleeper agent? His middle name proves that he hates freedom, etc."

I never wrote that that was what he said, I was making a comparison (perhaps a bad one), so how about you calm the ***** down.

What don’t you understand? Islam isn’t the most trusted f.u.c.k.i.n.g religion in the USA today bitch! Didn’t you notice?

How in the f.u.c.k. do that compare with calling some one a n*gger?
It doesn’t!

Now if not trusting Islam is being racist then throw my f.u.c.k.i.n.g name into the book too! Cause I don’t trust them m.o.t.h.e.r.f.u.c.k.e.r.s either.

You calm the f.u.c.k down

 

[Iriemon]

If we go bottom line straight to question; When does life begin...?

I disagree as you have framed it. Life in itself is not the determinative criteria, because we don't spend a lot of time debating the moral or theological implication of zapping the ant mound in our back yard with Raid. Nor do most get uptight about sperm or eggs. The question is when is a human being created. IMO, a single celled fertilized egg is not a human being and I have not seen in the Bible an indication that it is a human being either.

What you are left up with is your projected theologically based beliefs, which you still have not articulated a basis for, and the determination that you may impose your so far unarticulated beliefs upon others who do not share your beliefs.

 

[Apostle13]

I disagree as you have framed it. Life in itself is not the determinative criteria, because we don't spend a lot of time debating the moral or theological implication of zapping the ant mound in our back yard with Raid. Nor do most get uptight about sperm or eggs. The question is when is a human being created. IMO, a single celled fertilized egg is not a human being and I have not seen in the Bible an indication that it is a human being either.

What you are left up with is your projected theologically based beliefs, which you still have not articulated a basis for, and the determination that you may impose your so far unarticulated beliefs upon others who do not share your beliefs.

I was merely providing insight as to what and why I believe abortion is murder even from level one aka conception... Then furthering my reasons for motive (judgmental fear)... I accept that others have opposite views but I forever question their motives as to why... I dare say that most, man or woman, who strongly oppose pro-lifers do so in a lame attempt justify themselves for past action(s). Thus tearing away from their true conviction.
...But thats just me.
Therefore... My articulated basis is incorporated within a certainty toward future judgment.

Hebrews 9 (Amplified Bible)
And just as it is appointed for [all] men once to die, and after that the [certain] judgment,
Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him.

I neither condemn nor condone them... Ultimately we must all answer for ourselves.
What I do is provide sound biblical reasoning as to why it is wrong.

 

[Iriemon]

I was merely providing insight as to what and why I believe abortion is murder even from level one aka conception...

Perhaps I have misunderstood you, the only reason I have understood you to state as to your theological position on abortion is that you will face judgment some day. Which to me is not an explanation as to why your position on abortion will help you face judgment.

Hebrews 9 (Amplified Bible)
And just as it is appointed for [all] men once to die, and after that the [certain] judgment,
Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him.

I neither condemn nor condone them... Ultimately we must all answer for ourselves.
What I do is provide sound biblical reasoning as to why it is wrong.

That is what I am trying to understand. You have stated your belief, but not the Biblical reasoning for it.

 

[teacher]

Do you want this guy to be your president?

Okay Navy, here's your big chance.

Now I'm pretty clear that what I do do here in The Basement is dictated mainly by my mood, because I can and it annoys people, which ammuses me. And I feel feel kinda bad for you, being as you suck so much yet still couldn't win the asshat election, and this thread has some possible merit, that I'm gonna let this thread sit in this most honored of sub-forums for a while.

But now it's on you. Here's what you gotta do. Starting a thread then drop it in The Dungeon takes some balls, but you are a vet and old DP dog so I'm gonna give you a chance. Get back in the fray and defend your thread, make sumpin of it, for God's sake man, even D-man can do it, and it can stay here for a while more.

Or I'll park it in partisan bickering.

You don't have long.

Get busy.