How would President Pete be doing now ?

[Tigerace117]

We lost both of those wars (Afghanistan and Vietnam). Anyone who avoided having their lives wasted for NOTHING... well, maybe
there is something positive to say about that. What do you think?

We haven't had combat veteran Presidents since Eisenhower, Truman, and Kennedy.

Ah, and now we are into full on making excuses for draft dodging I see.

I’ll give you a hint—-people who hero worship a guy who bragged about “avoiding STDS” while actual patriotic Americans were fighting and dying don’t get to talk shit about a man who served his country honestly and well.

He volunteered to go to a literal war zone to help protect America and its people. That’s more than Donald Trump ever did.

 

[Tigerace117]

So the right supports draft dodgers now

Makes all that rage over Kaepernick kneeling look particularly hypocritical.

 

[Lycanthrope]

So the right supports draft dodgers now

Only when it's Trump.

Or when the individuals who served their nation are gay.

 

[Lycanthrope]

We lost both of those wars (Afghanistan and Vietnam). Anyone who avoided having their lives wasted for NOTHING... well, maybe
there is something positive to say about that. What do you think?

We haven't had combat veteran Presidents since Eisenhower, Truman, and Kennedy.

That is some of the weakest shit ever posted here.

 

[Court Jester]

Ah, and now we are into full on making excuses for draft dodging I see.

I’ll give you a hint—-people who hero worship a guy who bragged about “avoiding STDS” while actual patriotic Americans were fighting and dying don’t get to talk shit about a man who served his country honestly and well.

He volunteered to go to a literal war zone to help protect America and its people. That’s more than Donald Trump ever did.

First off, I forgot to mention Bush 1, he was a combat veteran, even as later as a GLOBALIST he got us into wars which cost thousands of needles lives over OIL. Didn't mean to leave Bush 1 out, I just never thought much of him. I also don't buy the claim that he didn't bail out of his aircraft after giving this crew enough time to bail out first. Most pilots bail out last, they give their crew time to get out FIRST. But he was young, and I suppose people think of him a hero. JFK, now that was a combat hero.

Not sure why you mention Trump to me, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, and I certainly don't "worship" the man. But the way I see it, your Trump derangement syndrome seems to forget that GW Bush avoided combat in Vietnam with his little daddy provided service shell game. And let's not forget that Bill Clinton too played the "game" to avoid serving. So, if we are going to sling mud on Trump, sling it on the others who did the same.

 

[Tigerace117]

First off, I forgot to mention Bush 1, he was a combat veteran, even as later as a GLOBALIST he got us into wars which cost thousands of needles lives over OIL. Didn't mean to leave Bush 1 out, I just never thought much of him. I also don't buy the claim that he didn't bail out of his aircraft after giving this crew enough time to bail out first. Most pilots bail out last, they give their crew time to get out FIRST. But he was young, and I suppose people think of him a hero. JFK, now that was a combat hero.

Not sure why you mention Trump to me, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, and I certainly don't "worship" the man. But the way I see it, your Trump derangement syndrome seems to forget that GW Bush avoided combat in Vietnam with his little daddy provided service shell game. And let's not forget that Bill Clinton too played the "game" to avoid serving. So, if we are going to sling mud on Trump, sling it on the others who did the same.

The Gulf War absolutely was not about “oil” and neither was Panama(and calling that a “war” is stretching the definition a bit). You whining because you don’t like the order in which people bailed out of an aircraft which was being shot down.....while defending a guy who dodged the draft...is pretty laughable.

“I don’t defend Trump!” you sob, while desperately engaged in whataboutism. Hate to break it to you bud....nobody’s buying it. And no amount of squirming can change the fact that Buttigieg chose to serve this country....while your hero did not.

 

[Fishking]

Would his husband actually be called "the First Husband"?

Maybe.

Would the presidents of Russia, Hungary, or Poland be OK with that?

Who cares? What matters is policy. Now, I don't think that Buttigieg has good policies, so that's what I'd criticize him for.

 

[armycowboy]

First off, I forgot to mention Bush 1, he was a combat veteran, even as later as a GLOBALIST he got us into wars which cost thousands of needles lives over OIL. Didn't mean to leave Bush 1 out, I just never thought much of him. I also don't buy the claim that he didn't bail out of his aircraft after giving this crew enough time to bail out first. Most pilots bail out last, they give their crew time to get out FIRST. But he was young, and I suppose people think of him a hero. JFK, now that was a combat hero.

Not sure why you mention Trump to me, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, and I certainly don't "worship" the man. But the way I see it, your Trump derangement syndrome seems to forget that GW Bush avoided combat in Vietnam with his little daddy provided service shell game. And let's not forget that Bill Clinton too played the "game" to avoid serving. So, if we are going to sling mud on Trump, sling it on the others who did the same.

Literally has "MAGA" as his sig, claims he didn't vote for TRUMP.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Literally has "MAGA" as his sig, claims he didn't vote for TRUMP.

Why Trumpists continue to let that man rule the GOP and shit on everything they supposedly held dear is a wonder for a bard's song.

 

[jaypatriot]

Maybe.

Who cares? What matters is policy. Now, I don't think that Buttigieg has good policies, so that's what I'd criticize him for.

I mentioned those countries precisely because they care about same sex marriages.
You may be Progressive enough to where it makes no matter to you.
But other countries have less liberal ideas about same sex relationships.
Shame we have to pay attention to what other leaders in other countries may think.

Our policies happen to impact other countries.

 

[jaypatriot]

Why Trumpists continue to let that man rule the GOP and shit on everything they supposedly held dear is a wonder for a bard's song.

What does 'rule the GOP' mean? Does he have some sort of leadership badge that puts him at the top of the GOP?
Who says he controls the GOP?

 

[Allan]

I mentioned those countries precisely because they care about same sex marriages.
You may be Progressive enough to where it makes no matter to you.
But other countries have less liberal ideas about same sex relationships.
Shame we have to pay attention to what other leaders in other countries may think.

Our policies happen to impact other countries.

Other countries don't much care about representative democracy either, or women/minorities in leadership positions. America shouldn't stoop to the lowest common denominator.

 

[Lycanthrope]

What does 'rule the GOP' mean? Does he have some sort of leadership badge that puts him at the top of the GOP?
Who says he controls the GOP?

Republicans do - they'll vote for him again if he runs in 2024, his approval ratings with them remain high, and they will not support anyone who is critical of him.

Which you know full well. The GOP belongs to Trump.

 

[jaypatriot]

Republicans do - they'll vote for him again if he runs in 2024, his approval ratings with them remain high, and they will not support anyone who is critical of him.

Which you know full well. The GOP belongs to Trump.

You know so much about Republicans.
DO you know why Youngkin did not want Trump to come down to VA to support him?
He knows Trump can be toxic to a GOP candidate. He won without Trump.
As a Republican, I never want to see Trump run again.

 

[jaypatriot]

Why should I care what those countries think about the sexuality of POTUS?

If Poland or Hungary threw a tantrum over it we can simply inform them that the door out of NATO is right there.

It’d be truly a sight to behold watching how fast they’d shut up.

I felt the same way about NATO members not being happy with Trump.
They don't like him, they can leave.

 

[jaypatriot]

Other countries don't much care about representative democracy either, or women/minorities in leadership positions. America shouldn't stoop to the lowest common denominator.

You're right. Especially when we call Saudi Arabia a close ally and they discriminate against women and butcher journalists they don't like.

 

[Lutherf]

President Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg ?

Pete Buttigieg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Everything would be perfect. Covid would be gone, jobs would be available for anyone that wanted one and people that didn't want to work would have a living wage substantial enough to provide a respectable lifestyle. Only the rich would pay taxes and there would be no need for planet killing carbon emissions as everyone would ride around on magic rainbow unicorns. There would be no hate, no fear, no need and no want.

 

[grip]

Lol I hope they wouldn't be. It would make them furious. I love the idea of Putin awkwardly trying to navigate that situation.

Putin would kiss hand, courtesy, then fall over dead with a yuck face.

 

[Lycanthrope]

You know so much about Republicans.
DO you know why Youngkin did not want Trump to come down to VA to support him?
He knows Trump can be toxic to a GOP candidate. He won without Trump.
As a Republican, I never want to see Trump run again.

I know what multiple polls consistently show.

I know GOP Republicans are terrified of Trump.

I'm happy you don't want to see Trump again, but until a majority of Republicans (public and private) consistently say as much, you are a decided minority.

All your party are belong to Trump.

 

[Tigerace117]

I felt the same way about NATO members not being happy with Trump.
They don't like him, they can leave.

I hate to break it to you, but an objection over someone’s sexuality, which they can’t control, is rather more of an issue than objecting because POTUS is a loud mouthed coward.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Takeaway from this thread - "Eww gays are icky!"

 

[armycowboy]

Takeaway from this thread - "Eww gays are icky!"

Doesn't it always come down to that in these forums.

 

[Fishking]

I mentioned those countries precisely because they care about same sex marriages.
You may be Progressive enough to where it makes no matter to you.
But other countries have less liberal ideas about same sex relationships.
Shame we have to pay attention to what other leaders in other countries may think.

Our policies happen to impact other countries.

I don't particularly care about the sensitivities of those countries.

 

[Court Jester]

Literally has "MAGA" as his sig, claims he didn't vote for TRUMP.

Make America Great Again is not limited to Donald Trump. If Joe Biden and all the rest of the idiotic left loony open border tax and spend socialists thought more in terms of making American great and not a shithole, then that would be a good start.

No, I didn't vote for Trump, even as I'm glad he beat Hillary, and wish he had beaten Biden. I have many issues with Trump, but being since I live in California I didn't need to vote for him. Get it?

 

[Court Jester]

The Gulf War absolutely was not about “oil”

Oh sure it wasn't. Saddam invading Kuwait, and threatening Saudi Arabai.... yeah, we were only involved because we cared so much about all of the human rights violations by Saddam. Same guy we had been supporting for decades.

“I don’t defend Trump!” you sob, while desperately engaged in whataboutism.

There is that favorite liberal word again.... whataboutism.

Hate to break it to you bud....nobody’s buying it. And no amount of squirming can change the fact that Buttigieg chose to serve this country....while your hero did not.

He got a paycheck, do you think he deserves a shrine too?