How will the maga war on education ensure that all kids get access to a good education ?

[Lord of Planar]

Everything you have said so far is based on supposition.

You expect knowledgeable people to respond to the voices in your head. Keep on posting gibberish, just don't expect educated answers that will address and satisfy your spitball approach.

Are you saying there have never been such cases?

Ok....

Stay in denial.

 

[BabaVoss]

They do? Who is "they" and do you have any examples of pseudo science being taught?

How many genders do they teach exist?

Who is "they" and do you have any examples of pseudo science being taught?

 

[ataraxia]

At least those who are home schooled can tell the difference between a man and woman unlike their gov educated counterparts

Yes. I am sure they can also tell that the world is flat just by looking at the flat horizon. They don't need no eggheads telling them it's round. Just common sense. Duh.

 

[trouble13]

They do? Who is "they" and do you have any examples of pseudo science being taught?

Who is "they" and do you have any examples of pseudo science being taught?

"They" are the people who choose what's taught in the schools.

They are the people who are telling children that science tells us their are 88 different genders.

That's who they is.

Now you point to the science that proves it's a fact that there are more however many genders they are teaching exists.

 

[trouble13]

Yes. I am sure they can also tell that the world is flat just by looking at the flat horizon. They don't need no eggheads telling them it's round. Just common sense. Duh.

The same eggheads who told us masks would protect us from a germ that is so small it easily passes through a mask? You mean those eggheads?

 

[Kelby]

"They" are the people who choose what's taught in the schools.

They are the people who are telling children that science tells us their are 88 different genders.

That's who they is.

Now you point to the science that proves it's a fact that there are more however many genders they are teaching exists.

The only place this is happening is in your fevered imagination.

 

[trouble13]

The only place this is happening is in your fevered imagination.

Are you arguing that schools are not teaching children there are more than 2 genders?

 

[ataraxia]

The same eggheads who told us masks would protect us from a germ that is so small it easily passes through a mask? You mean those eggheads?

Yes, those same eggheads. Not sure where you have heard anything different.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

 

[BabaVoss]

"They" are the people who choose what's taught in the schools.

They are the people who are telling children that science tells us their are 88 different genders.

That's who they is.

So some people somewhere are teaching something you believe says that?
Can you provide anything more to go on?

Now you point to the science that proves it's a fact that there are more however many genders they are teaching exists.

I have no idea what any of that means.

 

[trouble13]

Yes, those same eggheads. Not sure where you have heard anything different.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

That's another example of the pseudo science being taught as factual.

 

[trouble13]

So some people somewhere are teaching something you believe says that?
Can you provide anything more to go on?


I have no idea what any of that means.

Point me to the science that shows us there are more than 2 genders

 

[anatta]

Yeah, 'separate but equal' was an awesome success. Then SCOTUS came alone and said racial segregation, particularly in education, was a bad idea. We need to go back to the good old days, right?

non sequitur

 

[BirdinHand]

They" are the people who choose what's taught in the schools.

They are the people who are telling children that science tells us their are 88 different genders.

That's who they is

Local school boards that vote to approve curriculums?

That are elected by the people in their local communities?

 

[Kelby]

Are you arguing that schools are not teaching children there are more than 2 genders?

Yes.

 

[anatta]

I doubt that (bolded above) was true, but I’d rather have 50 attempts made to improve the publicly funded education situation than continue with one which is far from preventing the dismal quality of education offered in many public schools and school districts now.

i can pretty much assure you without even a cite public education was much more focused and students did better like back in the 60's
I was a public school student for a few years and the quality of learning was on par with what I got at Catholic school .I started St. Whatsitsname for 6th grade and did not need an remedial course.. I just transferred in and was equipped to handle grade level education

 

[Kelby]

Local school boards that vote to approve curriculums?

That are elected by the people in their local communities?

Poorly informed individuals in a thread complaining about the education system. Ironic.

 

[trouble13]

Local school boards that vote to approve curriculums?

That are elected by the people in their local communities?

The same communities that were treated like domestic terrorists for questioning the curriculum being taught. Those
schoolboards?

 

[anatta]

That’s unlikely to do anything productive, since giving inept (or corrupt?) school systems more money is unlikely to accomplish much of anything. Often, the problems are due to ‘issues’ beyond the control of the schools, such as ‘students’ not showing up to classes, but getting public funding regardless.

In Baltimore City, 65% of public schools earn lowest possible scores on Maryland Report Card

This year, Baltimore City Schools will spend a record amount of money per student, but what kind of education are those students receiving? According to new dat

foxbaltimore.com

Ya. I was at Baltimore City schools as i mentioned for early grades and education was good back in the 60's . what happened? long sad tale

 

[BirdinHand]

The same communities that were treated like domestic terrorists for questioning the curriculum being taught. Those
schoolboards?

The school boards didn’t magically appear, did they?

They’ve been elected by the communities all along.

That some people apparently didn’t pay any attention is the problem of the people not paying attention, isn’t it? Blame them.

 

[Visbek]

If federal student loans worked then why was there federal student loan ‘forgiveness’?

I didn't say the current system is fantabulous. I'm saying that eliminating federal student loans, and hoping that employers will pick up the tab, will not work at all.

• Many employers these days won't hire candidates who don't have a college degree in the first place.

• Expecting an employer to foot the bill for a non-employee, and wait 2-4 years for that individual to graduate, is obviously not going to happen.

• Employers already do get tax breaks for tuition reimbursement. And yet, it's still a rare perk.

• The only companies that can afford to offer tuition reimbursement are huge corporations like Walmart -- and only a tiny percentage of employees take advantage of the program.

E.g. in 2021, less than 2% of Walmart's employees received tuition benefits. It doesn't help that it's only for full time employees, which means they don't have a lot of time for school (especially since Walmart can change those employee's schedules at will, making it even harder); they only offer tuition for 15 colleges, and that the benefit isn't available to salaried associates above the "market" level, or anyone with a BA. I.e. it's much more of a promise than a genuine benefit.


As to why Biden offered loan forgiveness? Long story short: State governments have cut per-student spending on higher education for decades, which puts more of the cost burden on students. Also, more students are attending college, thus schools can demand higher fees, especially at competitive schools.

Meanwhile, the benefits of a college degree are still substantial -- higher lifetime pay, better jobs, better job opportunities, better benefits from employers, and so on. If anything, the need for a college degree is greater than in the past.

The real solution is for the government to properly fund higher education. However, given that Republicans despise college (despite the fact that almost all Republican elected officials are college grads, many from elite private schools...) and prefer to cut off their own noses to spite their faces, Biden didn't really have much of an option. He was barely able to keep funding at current levels.

 

[ttwtt78640]

i can pretty much assure you without even a cite public education was much more focused and students did better like back in the 60's
I was a public school student for a few years and the quality of learning was on par with what I got at Catholic school .I started St. Whatsitsname for 6th grade and did not need an remedial course.. I just transferred in and was equipped to handle grade level education

That’s probably true, but was mostly the result of discovering that ‘social promotion’, combined with grade inflation, improved graduation rates.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Ya. I was at Baltimore City schools as i mentioned for early grades and education was good back in the 60's . what happened? long sad tale

See post #171.

 

[trouble13]

Yes.

 

[trouble13]

The school boards didn’t magically appear, did they?

They’ve been elected by the communities all along.

That some people apparently didn’t pay any attention is the problem of the people not paying attention, isn’t it? Blame them.

Yup they share in the blame for being asleep at the wheel but that does not let the people teaching pseudo science off the hook.

Now those people are waking up and the backlash is coming for those who took advantage of parents trust.

 

[BirdinHand]

Yup they share in the blame for being asleep at the wheel but that does not let the people teaching pseudo science off the hook.

Teachers are given a curriculum by their school boards.

Once again, take it up with the voters in the local communities.

Now those people are waking up and the backlash is coming for those who took advantage of parents trust.

Oh no, parents that didn’t care about their kids education enough to pay attention prior to COVID are “waking up” and going to go yell at school board meetings.

Yawn. Been watching that play out for years. Who cares? Let them yell and let them change their school board or curriculums or whatever.