How we know democrats are full of crap

[Daddyo]

1.Who is they?
2. No ,

a-the tariff is placed on products for the most part the US can not make or produce so your comment makes no sense;

b-when which is rare, the tariffs are placed on foreign products coming in to the us, its precisely because the foreign product is cheaper than the American one Trump places a tariff to increase their prices higher than what American producers charge so you will only buy American products;

c-in regards to b, the American producer is in fact subsidized by your government to rip you off-the tariff will say raise the foreign product to 5.00 from 3.00. The American producer can not increase their product to 4.00, 4.50 and make an extra 1.00 to 1.50 protected by the tariff which is a consumer tax you pay.

Geeziz man wake up. Trump is performinga rectal exam on you with no gloves and you tell everyone you enjoy it. Thanks but I pass. You Magas just make me cringe.

“They” is other countries.

Have you tried to compete against slave labor wages, zero epa costs, and few regulatory expenses? My guess is you have not. So our manufacturing companies have massively higher of all three mentioned above making competition very difficult. Between that and at one time having the highest corporate tax rate in the world, it’s the reason manufacturers left our country in droves. Trump has some coming back via his lowering of the corp tax rate. He has many more coming back because of the tariffs which has made it cheaper to make the product here.

Now let’s break it down like you so desperately tried to do.

Now the product is being made here. Americans are being forced to pay a bit more because of the tariffs. However Americans are now in those manufacturing jobs making good wages. The money earned is staying in OUR ****ing country instead of supporting foreigners and all their support businesses. The plumbers, ac guys, construction workers, delivery drivers, convenience stores and even the baby sitters all have more work now. More jobs also equals more tax revenue. This is a no brainer bud.

It’s a shame that so many who seek to talk shit and debate a subject have such little knowledge and often even less experience with that subject. Then you have the balls to say I don’t know my shit lol. How pathetic lol.

I found out first hand what cheap labor and zero regulatory expenses could do to my business. My competitors hired illegal immigrants and paid under the table. Employing cheap labor and with zero workman’s comp, taxes, and SSI being paid they always seemed to under bid me lol. Gee I wonder why?

 

[Mika-El]

What I have been telling you and others is precisely what happened. Obamacare was passed and my insurance premiums doubled. My former employer began to raise our contributions as a result. I decided to shop Obamacare because there were subsidies available. The insurance agent quoted me what he described as an Obamacare silver plan. It was even more expensive than my private group plan from work and totally unusable. I didn’t qualify for any subsidies.

And you can call me a liar for this aswell. I was without insurance for a brief period before getting on my wife’s plan. I was penalized 200 bucks for every month (if I recall correctly) that I was without insurance when I did my taxes. That made me hate the ACA even more.

Now you may not like the truth but it is the truth. I also provided you with information suggesting that very high deductibles were possible pre 2014. The ACA was certainly being sold pre 2014 as my info showed. So you suggesting that it somehow began in 2014 is a lie. The ACA didn’t fix my premiums it exploded them. They doubled! That doubling caused me to shop ACA which was even higher and unusable. Again these are facts no matter how many times you feel it necessary to suggest that I’m lying.

So you admit you base your political positions (I am being very comlementary describing them as such) as based on your own personal experience no one can prove and you demand people believe,

Me call you a liar? No that is not the issue. The issue is you engage in a subjective tactic to make the basis of your position personal and if anyone challenges it-this means its a personal attack against your honesty. You to put it succinctly engage in emotional manipulation by using the tactic of personal anecdote.

We all know that tactic.

Let me be as direct as I can. Without neutral, objective data not attached to your supposed persnal experience, nothing you say has meaning as it can not be objectively verified and you know that.

Next you clearly have not explained why premiums were raised. You instead say they "exploded". If they exploided they would no longer exist, You can't even use the correct hyperbole to suggest they "skyrocketed" or had a "dramatic increase".

Next ACA premum increases resulted from rising prescription costs, hospital care expenses and inflation. It is also argued the Affordable Care Act of 2010 may have led to the kinds of market consolidation and vertical integration which led to the increases in prices which then triggered the premium increases

For you to engage in an intelligence and rational discourse on why premiums have increased without making it about you try:

How much and why ACA Marketplace premiums are going up in 2025 — Revcare-Blog

By Jared Ortaliza, Matthew McGough, Anna Cord and Cynthia Cox KFF / August 2, 2024 Health insurers submit rate filings annually to state regulators detailing expectations and rate changes for Affordable Care Act (ACA)-regulated health plans for the coming year. A relatively small, but grow

www.revcare.com

Shocking Truth: 7 Reasons Your Health Insurance Premium Might Go Up Every Year

Learn why your health insurance premium might go up every year in the U.S. Understand medical inflation, age-based hikes, plan changes, and how to reduce costs.

healthnsave.com

Health Insurance Premiums With And Without The ACA

Reports explain why ACA premiums rose and why they may go higher without key ACA provisions.

tcbmag.com

I doubt you read anything but Trump sites and stop after one sentence.

 

[Mika-El]

Have you tried to compete against slave labor wages, zero epa costs, and few regulatory expenses?

No but I have thought why American multi-nations offshore to take advantage of slave labour wages, no employment, health or environment regulations. Its so they can exploit such countries to avoid added expenses for wages and health and envrionmental regulations and maximize their profts.

Now you whine saying it makes them un competitive with businesses in the US? Are you that out of it. Really? Have you any idea that the companies you talk off left the US permanently and have no desire to return to have to pay higher wages? Are you that daft to not understand the US does not want back labour intensive manufacuring as you mention?

Good God man can you try educate yourself. The manufacturing the US wants is high tech non labour intensive. Its the kind of high tech we see in South Korea, Japan, China that the US has fallen behind in. The US has fallen behind because its education system produces people like you that can not fathom how the real world works. and so is stuck in a 1950's delusion based on early 1800 tariffs.

Again nothing you said addressed what I said. You again deflected from what explained to point out something that makes zero sense.

The US has never wanted to bring back labour intensive manufacturing. Wake up man. They want to poach high
tech manufacturing from countries that won;t allow the US to buy them out.

More to the point try get a grip on reality. Even if you can try move high tech manufacturing to the US the wages have to be in US wages which will make the products more expensive than if you import them.

This is why the world now has free trade so each country can focus on something its good at and then trade it for something else in another country at fair exchange so both parties are benefitted and avoid competition.

The person you applaud does not understand economic transactions. He spent his whole life flipping real estate. His business consisted of lying and puffing value or undervaluing it. He has no understaning of basic economics. He has dyslexia, dysgraphia and dyscalculia. Go find out what that is. He has spent his life bluffing and bllying to cover up his disabilities and try look in control.

Right now the world has quaranntined him from economic transactions because he is so unstable.

Wake up man.

 

[Nickyjo]

What I have been telling you and others is precisely what happened. Obamacare was passed and my insurance premiums doubled. My former employer began to raise our contributions as a result. I decided to shop Obamacare because there were subsidies available. The insurance agent quoted me what he described as an Obamacare silver plan. It was even more expensive than my private group plan from work and totally unusable. I didn’t qualify for any subsidies.

And you can call me a liar for this aswell. I was without insurance for a brief period before getting on my wife’s plan. I was penalized 200 bucks for every month (if I recall correctly) that I was without insurance when I did my taxes. That made me hate the ACA even more.

Now you may not like the truth but it is the truth. I also provided you with information suggesting that very high deductibles were possible pre 2014. The ACA was certainly being sold pre 2014 as my info showed. So you suggesting that it somehow began in 2014 is a lie. The ACA didn’t fix my premiums it exploded them. They doubled! That doubling caused me to shop ACA which was even higher and unusable. Again these are facts no matter how many times you feel it necessary to suggest that I’m lying.

Medicare for all would settle things, much as it has in countries similar to ours.

 

[Nickyjo]

No I don’t. However you have this false belief that there needs to be a very high percentage of votes cast on a dominion machine for cheating to be election altering. I listed the thousands of votes in a few select states that could change the entire outcome. Shit in Florida 500 votes in 2000 changed the entire election.

10 percent of 150,000,000 is 15,000,000. Many times more votes than the differences in those swing states. So saying 90 percent vote on paper is meaningless and irrelevant. You say it only to falsely make it appear as if there is no way for dominion machine cheating to alter an election. This of course is false.

Dominion has both vote machines and tabulation machines. One can’t cheat and the other can. Once again you give information design to fool those who don’t know these facts.

And all of this happened without anyone but Trump and his acolytes noticing, as once again, Trump showed that he will not accept negative election results. Do you ever factor Trump’s repeated lies about elections into your opinion?

 

[Taylor]

Many of the more partisan Democrats are not happy about this...

Israel-Iran ceasefire seems to hold as Trump lands in Europe for NATO summit

With an Israel-Iran ceasefire holding after a shaky start, Trump plans to jet in and out of a NATO summit in The Hague.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Daddyo]

I’m a FORMER Republican, an old school fiscal conservative and a moderate on social issues. I’ve served my community, my state and if called upon my nation. I’ve been assigned many times as local L.E. support of Presidential security details. I believe in DUTY, In HONOR, in COUNTRY. That I do so is why I feel so strongly in this as I believe the supporting of someone so low on the scale of values, setting new bars of unethical behavior in our federal governing, is a slap in the face to the concept of DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY, and that people of good character and strong ethics must show their love of this nation by speaking against it.

Please feel free to put that in your pipe and smoke it.




Only if left with the choice of her or Trump. Give me a better option and I’ll pick it.



No, you look in the mirror, and I legitimately say this in kindness as it’s your soul and this nation I’d like to save by saying it: The supporting of a person this low in character and ethics speaks to the character and the ethics of the people doing the supporting. You need to think about that. You MAGA folk are literally telling us who you are.

Do you want Trump’s values and lurid ethics to be your legacy?

So you claim to be a former Republican yet you actually voted for Harris who is essentially the polar opposite of nearly all Republicans. So I don’t believe you are being truthful.

So you claim to be all about ethics and this of course is the reason you cannot support Trump yet you voted for Harris who screwed a man more than twice her age for a career boost and flip flopped on several key issues weeks before the election to deceive voters. She also lied to your ****ing face and told you that Biden was energetic and engaging in private. Combine that with her support of baby killing known as abortion and for those reasons I don’t believe you were ever a Republican.

I don’t smoke and thank you for your service.

 

[Daddyo]

None. I said the Clinton era. Read please. For a short time that was the nature of the beast. You got help for five years. Look it up.

The Clinton era was decades ago. Today we have cradle to grave welfare. Not sure why you would believe that something decades ago would be relevant today.

 

[Daddyo]

Maybe. Or maybe it's not a coincidence that Trump only lost to a white guy. No one likes Donald Trump outside of maga, but America loves its racism and misogny more unfortunately.

She was part of that “dream team” that got 81,000,000 votes lol. The racists and misogynists just stayed home once she was on the top of the ticket? And what does that say about your party? That putting a black woman on the top would make millions of democrats stay home and just let Trump win simply because the black woman was lifted to President. She was fine on the back of the ticket. Republicans had nothing to do with any misogyny or racism as you claim. They didn’t vote for Biden the first time or Harris the second time.

And I have spoken with dozens of democrats who have never voted for a Republican in their lives who like Trump. My black customers seem to really like the man. They didn’t vote for Harris in part because she jailed blacks for marijuana then bragged about smoking the shit. A lot more folks than you think and who aren’t MAGA like the man.

And after his handling of the Iran nuclear issue and that war his approval will only rise.

 

[Daddyo]

But you never link to any of the "evidence" that the 2020 while ignoring the links that I and others have provided showing that it wasn't stolen. I linked to where over two paper ballots were hand counted where Dominion tabulating machines are used that confirmed Biden won the 2020;AZ election, but you have ignored it and keep repeating discredited conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

I didn’t ignore it at all. I asked you how 67 judges could know if those mail in ballots were filled out by the actual voter. They said everything was correct yet the only evidence proving this was tossed in the trash before any recount or signature checks could be performed.

I also rebutted your dominion tabulator claim by explaining that dominion also uses voting machines that are able to cheat as proved in that Georgia court.

I also rebutted your constant claim about 10 percent of the vote. Less than 44,000 votes separated Biden and Trump from a tie. Less than 80k from a different outcome. A fraction under that 10percent figure you keep pointing out.

And I’m pointing out circumstantial evidence in a debate. That’s not claiming conspiracy theories.

 

[Daddyo]

I and others throughout this thread have provided links showing that the 2020 election wasn't stolen from Trump. I've posted the link a few times to the results of the hand recount of the paper ballots that confirmed Biden won the 2020 AZ election. However, you've ignored it and go on to repeat the discredited conspiracy theories about the 2020 election without any links. The 2020 presidential election is the most audited and investigated election in US history. And it isn't my fault if you still choose to believe in the discredited conspiracy theories over the audits and hand recount of the paper ballots. I'm now done with this thread.

Of course you are done lol. You won’t even answer a single simple ****ing question yet you run around screaming that the election was the most audited lol. As if that proves fairness.

How did those audits or those judges prove that any of the mail in ballots received were from the actual voter who’s name was on the ballot?

Remember the signature verification was immediately tossed away in the trash. I answered each of your claims have the integrity to answer just one of mine before running away.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

So you claim to be a former Republican yet you actually voted for Harris who is essentially the polar opposite of nearly all Republicans. So I don’t believe you are being truthful.

You comment on what you have no knowledge about. Though it’s available. I’ve stated multiple times, I didn’t vote for Harris. I voted Libertarian (Chase Oliver) because I live in NJ and I could without it supporting Trump (NJ’s EC votes were going to Harris regardless).

Had I lived across the border in PA I would have voted Harris because it was a closer race there.

So you claim to be all about ethics and this of course is the reason you cannot support Trump yet you voted for Harris who screwed a man more than twice her age for a career boost …

There is no evidence of that. They were both legally separated at the time, thus available, and no proof it helped her career. In fact, both deny she got any preferential treatment.

That makes what you’re doing rumor and gossip. Not very ethical.

and flip flopped on several key issues weeks before the election to deceive voters. She also lied to your ****ing face and told you that Biden was energetic and engaging in private. Combine that with her support of baby killing known as abortion and for those reasons I don’t believe you were ever a Republican.

I don’t smoke and thank you for your service.

When you’re right, you’re right. However Trump’s done his fair share flip-flopping. You don’t acknowledge. Hypocrisy.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

The Clinton era was decades ago. Today we have cradle to grave welfare. Not sure why you would believe that something decades ago would be relevant today.

It’s relevant the way history is always relevant. An example of what worked and why. A warning against what didn’t and why.

 

[The Brad Dad]

And I have spoken with dozens of democrats who have never voted for a Republican in their lives who like Trump. My black customers seem to really like the man. They didn’t vote for Harris in part because she jailed blacks for marijuana then bragged about smoking the shit. A lot more folks than you think and who aren’t MAGA like the man.

None of this happened. Completely made up.

 

[Mika-El]

Many of the more partisan Democrats are not happy about this...

Israel-Iran ceasefire seems to hold as Trump lands in Europe for NATO summit

With an Israel-Iran ceasefire holding after a shaky start, Trump plans to jet in and out of a NATO summit in The Hague.

www.usatoday.com

You speak for yourself only and project it on your creation called partisan Democrats.

 

[Mika-El]

Of course you are done lol. You won’t even answer a single simple ****ing question yet you run around screaming that the election was the most audited lol. As if that proves fairness.

This coming from someone who never answers directly any challenges from anyone on this thread and words every response with personal anecdotes that can not be verified and juvenile name calling.

How did those audits or those judges prove that any of the mail in ballots received were from the actual voter who’s name was on the ballot?

Using that logic all absentee ballots from people who voted for Trump whose total amount you do not know should have been discarded as well but you don't argue that. You of courser ignore it.

Remember the signature verification was immediately tossed away in the trash. I answered each of your claims have the integrity to answer just one of mine before running away.

The signature verification was not immediately tossed away in the trash and this is why you again throw out an allegation as if its fact with zero proof and no that is not an answer and you again have provided zero objective evidence for your allegations-zero.

Finally in regards to how ballots are verified I would suggest you coming on this board and making unverified allegations does not pass any sense of credibility and unlike you I provide sources for how its done:

How election officials verify mail-in and absentee ballots

Whether a state requires voters to request an absentee ballot or participates in universal mail-in voting, all ballots cast by mail or dropped off at a drop box are vetted to ensure their legitimacy.

www.pbs.org

6 Ways Mail-In Ballots Are Protected from Fraud

The mail-in voting process has several built-in safeguards that together make it hard for one person to vote fraudulently, and even more difficult to commit voter fraud on a scale capable of swinging election outcomes.

www.snopes.com

Table 14: How States Verify Voted Absentee/Mail Ballots

Summarizes methods states use to verify absentee/mail ballots, such as signature verification and having the absentee/mail ballot witnessed or notarized.

www.ncsl.org

How Does Voting by Mail Work?

Americans have been mailing in ballots since the Civil War, but the COVID-19 pandemic put a spotlight on the process. Find out more about security measures for mail-in ballots and the reasons a vote might be considered "lost."

scienceexchange.caltech.edu

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mail-in-voting-election-integrity-safeguards_508.pdf

Alleged Voter Fraud in 2024 Election: Every Claim We've Fact-Checked

From dead people voting to election interference, we've got the facts.

www.snopes.com

Now when you make an allegation of false ballots-you not me or anyone else on the forum must prove it. We are not hear to serve you and the onus is on you making the claim not me or anyone to prove it.

This sense of entitlement you have that people must prove your unsubstantiated allegations false is delusional.

 

[Mika-El]

Wasting time on you, not happening. You can easily confirm my claims. If I’m wrong you can easily rebut those claims. Doing nothing but crying about “nothing to back my claims” is lazy. It’s not debating. I make a claim and you can agree or rebut the claim. When you provide evidence that I’m wrong then I am obligated to provide counter evidence.

You can’t say I’m wrong without providing evidence to back it while then claiming I provided no evidence. That’s not how it works.

Yes that is how it works. Coming on this board as you do repreating allegations as you do with zero proof makes your allegations and answers meaningless and the above remark petiulant.

 

[Daddyo]

I did voluntarily what cops are required to do, let people potentially in danger in their home country know of their rights in this. Let me give you an example of similar actions by another group: in one immigration district in Arizona, advocates addressed migrants, telling them what they had to show to obtain asylum. They told them that if they didn’t qualify they could be detained for months and then deported. This was win-win, as the info caused many migrants to leave voluntarily, helping the government, and at the same time gave the advocates access to those asylum seekers who didn’t have them wasting their time screening out applicants with frivolous claim. I also was invited by ICE (then INS) to address their staff on human rights conditions in 1-2 countries. Finally, the US flew me and others to Guantanamo to interview Haitians captured at sea.

Where do you get your information or stats that this was used by violent migrants to commit crimes, to prey on “thousands of innocent Americans?” Should the laws and treaties that protect asylum seekers be not published anywhere, in order to prevent these thousands of marauding evil people from learning their rights in their own?

I was under the impression that you educated the current batch of illegals during the Biden administration. I believed that your, and others, information is what caused the immediate and drastic switch from illegals running from border patrol to running to them to turn themselves in. Is this incorrect?

 

[Daddyo]

And yet, for the first time in my memory of presidential elections dating back to 1960, people celebrated publicly at Trump’s defeat. That is the huge point you miss. Biden was eminently qualified to serve, as his accomplishments during his term indicated. But people came out in great numbers as much to get rid of Trump as to elect Biden. And as usual, as he had done several times before, Trump claimed that an election that displeased him was rigged. That’s Trump’s thing. Why do you seem to believe Trump and not people like the ever loyal Bill Barr and Trump’s appointed cyber security guy, who said the election was secure — and who promptly got fired by Donald for saying so?

What are you talking about? People celebrate publicly at the defeat of a political opponent after every election.

Biden was qualified to serve unfortunately he was not mentally competent to do so. His few accomplishments include flooding our country with illegals and massive inflation.

Those same people you claim came out to get rid of Trump in 2020 just stayed home in 2024. Why? And before you begin the misogyny and race bullshit understand that it’s Democrat support the went down not Republican support. Trump got more votes than during his first run but the real problem was democrats either staying home or as I believe not being able to cheat via the mail in ballots as they had done 4 years earlier. If you blame misogyny and race you have only to look at your own party as they are the ones who hemorrhaged support.

Why do I believe Trump over Barr? Because Barr told me the election was secure despite the millions of the most easy to cheat ballots being mailed to every voter. He said the election was secure without a single signature being verified. They threw away the voters signature on the envelopes. No way anyone on earth could accurately say that the election was secure. So Barr is full of shit. Barr THINKS the election was secure. Just like you think the ultra high turnout for a lame candidate was organic. I think the anomaly was caused by the cheating made easy by those ballots. Especially now that we see numbers return to “normal” even with Trump running again. Considering the claim for the massive spike in votes was due to Trump hate.

I would have fired Barr also. Can’t claim a secure election with millions of ballots that couldn’t be verified as filled out by the actual voter.

 

[Daddyo]

Yeah cause that’s how cheating works lol

No because millions of mail in ballot weren’t mailed to every voter this time around. No massive mail in ballots to every voter, which is essentially the easiest way to cheat, and the democrat candidate gets normal vote numbers lol. With millions of super easy to cheat ballots the democrat gets a massive spike in vote numbers. A shitty uninspiring half brain dead candidate gets more votes that Obama lol. You buy that and I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Daddyo]

Well if the Trump administration will follow what the court rules he will be free till his court date.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/abrego-garcia-detention-trial

Federal judge denies detention for alleged MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Judge rules against detaining alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia after his controversial deportation and return, highlighting tensions in Trump's immigration policies.

www.foxnews.com

Gotta love the poster children your comrades hold up as examples. Protecting a human trafficking illegal and gang member lol.

Now they are about to support a democratic socialist for mayor lol. I love it lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Somehow I think detaining him was pure vindictiveness by the Trump administration.

So you don’t believe the charges against him?

 

[Daddyo]

Sorry, we have no means of knowing if Trump’s vote totals went up organically. We’ll never know if he really won states like Florida.

No we actually know his vote numbers went up as he got more this time than last time. That’s how it works bud.

I assure you he won Florida. Our elections are pretty solid these days. When the shit does go crazy in Florida it’s always in a Democrat precinct and it always seems to benefit the democrat candidate.

 

[Daddyo]

I’m happy you’re happy with a regime that wants questions like “What time did Trump take his ensure today” white we’re at war

You had no problem with a regime leader that refused to address reporters.

You had no problem with a regime press secretary that only accepted softball questions from its fake news propaganda wing.

Sad that you don’t have the integrity to admit that Trump takes and answers more questions than any president in your ****ing lifetime. Then you go further and suggest that he only takes easy questions lol. And you do this after your president refused to even take questions. It’s sad and pathetic bud.

Don’t know what alt universe or bizzaro world you live in but Trump is on tv answering questions damn near every ****ing day. You might try something other than fake news. It seems either you are purposely lying or perhaps you are just ignorant of it given your news choices.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Sad that you don’t have the integrity to admit that Trump takes and answers more questions than any president in your ****ing lifetime. Then you go further and suggest that he only takes easy questions lol. And you do this after your president refused to even take questions. It’s sad and pathetic bud.

Trump doesn’t answer anything. A reporter can ask whatever, he only answers with whatever word salad his dementia rattled brain gives him and then whines like a bitch about media coverage. If you had any integrity you’d want him to answer questions too instead of demanding other Americans nod our heads in reverence like the rest of the cult.