How we know democrats are full of crap

[Daddyo]

And folks still forget that there was a pandemic back in 2020.

He mentioned it in his full post lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Trump generated the bulk of those 81 million votes. The “pandemic porn” you’re referring to was to the tune of 10k Americans dying a day from covid over a stretch of time. Covid was real and cost Trump the election. Republican claims of election fraud were never proven and thrown out of every single court it was brought before.

There was Trump once again in 2024 yet no 81 million votes.

What was missing from the 2024 election????? Millions of mail in easy cheat ballots that’s what.

 

[Daddyo]

He lost in 2020. I assume you, bud understand that. Too bad he didn’t.

What in the world are you talking about in that last paragraph? How did my work with asylum seekers - work that was praised by immigration judges and INS (ICE), and was in accord with US law and three ratified treaties - cause crime? I disagreed with Reagan’s absurd asylum actions, but was part of Bush One’s efforts to correct them. How did that cause crime?

You said that you authored and distributed materials that educated illegals on how to remain in this country using the treaty. As I explained this information was used by violent illegals, who would normally have been turned away and sent home, to remain in this country. They obviously used the information you and others provided to stay. In doing so they were able to prey on thousands of innocent Americans. And yes thousands were raped and hundreds were murdered by those illegals during Biden’s open border invasion crisis.

If you were not part of educating illegal as described above during the Trump and Biden administration then I withdraw my accusation and sincerely apologize.

 

[The Brad Dad]

There was Trump once again in 2024 yet no 81 million votes.

What was missing from the 2024 election????? Millions of mail in easy cheat ballots that’s what.

Maybe. Or maybe it's not a coincidence that Trump only lost to a white guy. No one likes Donald Trump outside of maga, but America loves its racism and misogny more unfortunately.

 

[Brack]

Link to what? If there was evidence your candidate would have lost. I would be demanding jail for the ones who cheated.

But you never link to any of the "evidence" that the 2020 while ignoring the links that I and others have provided showing that it wasn't stolen. I linked to where over two paper ballots were hand counted where Dominion tabulating machines are used that confirmed Biden won the 2020;AZ election, but you have ignored it and keep repeating discredited conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

 

[Brack]

Link to what? If there was evidence your candidate would have lost. I would be demanding jail for the ones who cheated.

I and others throughout this thread have provided links showing that the 2020 election wasn't stolen from Trump. I've posted the link a few times to the results of the hand recount of the paper ballots that confirmed Biden won the 2020 AZ election. However, you've ignored it and go on to repeat the discredited conspiracy theories about the 2020 election without any links. The 2020 presidential election is the most audited and investigated election in US history. And it isn't my fault if you still choose to believe in the discredited conspiracy theories over the audits and hand recount of the paper ballots. I'm now done with this thread.

 

[Nickyjo]

You said that you authored and distributed materials that educated illegals on how to remain in this country using the treaty. As I explained this information was used by violent illegals, who would normally have been turned away and sent home, to remain in this country. They obviously used the information you and others provided to stay. In doing so they were able to prey on thousands of innocent Americans. And yes thousands were raped and hundreds were murdered by those illegals during Biden’s open border invasion crisis.

If you were not part of educating illegal as described above during the Trump and Biden administration then I withdraw my accusation and sincerely apologize.

I did voluntarily what cops are required to do, let people potentially in danger in their home country know of their rights in this. Let me give you an example of similar actions by another group: in one immigration district in Arizona, advocates addressed migrants, telling them what they had to show to obtain asylum. They told them that if they didn’t qualify they could be detained for months and then deported. This was win-win, as the info caused many migrants to leave voluntarily, helping the government, and at the same time gave the advocates access to those asylum seekers who didn’t have them wasting their time screening out applicants with frivolous claim. I also was invited by ICE (then INS) to address their staff on human rights conditions in 1-2 countries. Finally, the US flew me and others to Guantanamo to interview Haitians captured at sea.

Where do you get your information or stats that this was used by violent migrants to commit crimes, to prey on “thousands of innocent Americans?” Should the laws and treaties that protect asylum seekers be not published anywhere, in order to prevent these thousands of marauding evil people from learning their rights in their own?

 

[Daddyo]

I know, right?!?

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Let’s see you voted for a man who these idiots told you was demented and essentially braindead. It took 4 years for you to figure it out lol.

You fell for the lie that Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation despite all us maga idiots realizing it was real and saying so.

You got suckered into believing Trump was getting pissed on by Russian hookers while the maga morons knew it was a lie.

Some of the dumbest people on earth reside in the Democrat party. Calling others dumb is pure projection. Nothing more than a confession of their own party‘s constituents.

 

[Daddyo]

That Trump had larger campaign rallies than Biden during a pandemic is basically the only "evidence" that the 2020 election was "rigged" against Trump.

That Biden had zero energy. His campaign had zero enthusiasm. Biden was being kept from interviews to hide his dementia. When he finally started opening up a bit he couldn’t muster anything. Even traditionally strong democrat supporting groups were flat on Biden. Shit there were even less Biden yard signs than normal in Democrat heavy areas.

Trump did have larger rallies because he actually had enough supporters to fill larger venues. Trump had more folks standing outside watching monitors than Biden could get inside.

 

[Nickyjo]

That Biden had zero energy. His campaign had zero enthusiasm. Biden was being kept from interviews to hide his dementia. When he finally started opening up a bit he couldn’t muster anything. Even traditionally strong democrat supporting groups were flat on Biden. Shit there were even less Biden yard signs than normal in Democrat heavy areas.

Trump did have larger rallies because he actually had enough supporters to fill larger venues. Trump had more folks standing outside watching monitors than Biden could get inside.

And yet, for the first time in my memory of presidential elections dating back to 1960, people celebrated publicly at Trump’s defeat. That is the huge point you miss. Biden was eminently qualified to serve, as his accomplishments during his term indicated. But people came out in great numbers as much to get rid of Trump as to elect Biden. And as usual, as he had done several times before, Trump claimed that an election that displeased him was rigged. That’s Trump’s thing. Why do you seem to believe Trump and not people like the ever loyal Bill Barr and Trump’s appointed cyber security guy, who said the election was secure — and who promptly got fired by Donald for saying so?

 

[Daddyo]

source.

nah, they just delayed and gave excuses and finally brought Garcia back

not doing your research for you.

How did coming back work for Garcia lol?

 

[Daddyo]

He didn’t, the country’s racism and misogyny did the trick.

Nah the cheating wasn’t possible this time around. Back to normal vote numbers

 

[The Brad Dad]

Nah the cheating wasn’t possible this time around. Back to normal vote numbers

Yeah cause that’s how cheating works lol

 

[mike2810]

How did coming back work for Garcia lol?

Well if the Trump administration will follow what the court rules he will be free till his court date.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/abrego-garcia-detention-trial

Federal judge denies detention for alleged MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Judge rules against detaining alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia after his controversial deportation and return, highlighting tensions in Trump's immigration policies.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Nickyjo]

Well if the Trump administration will follow what the court rules he will be free till his court date.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/abrego-garcia-detention-trial

Federal judge denies detention for alleged MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Judge rules against detaining alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia after his controversial deportation and return, highlighting tensions in Trump's immigration policies.

www.foxnews.com

Somehow I think detaining him was pure vindictiveness by the Trump administration.

 

[Daddyo]

Yes it was. A federal court forced the WH to swallow its illegal “rule” so it reversed.

What they should have done is simply move the AP to the back of the room and rarely or never call on them for a question just like democrats do to Fox.

 

[Daddyo]

Someone else in a different thread made the exact same argument. It’s funny that you guys suddenly believe no one in this history of elections ever casts a vote against the other candidate. Trump was coming off of his mishandling of covid, after a pretty controversial and polarizing administration. You can’t imagine that there might be a good large swath of the country that wanted to vote against him? You guys need to get real; you keep thinking everyone worships Trump outside of maga

And you guys need to stop thinking that because you hate Trump so intensely that everyone must hate his that much. First he was so bad that he increased his vote count from the first election, a sign that always means victory. He didn’t lose support he increased it. Next he increased support with minorities, yet another usual sign of victory. In summary you say he was so awful that folks voted in massive numbers to rid themselves of him yet his support went up.

Then there wasn’t even a hint of this massive wave about to lift the Biden ship up and over Trump.

Then the very next election, after Trump is now a convicted felon, none of the blue wave Trump hating voters, that you say lifted Biden to victory, could muster the energy to insure Trump lose in 2024. They just let him win this time.

The only election with millions of easy cheat ballots just so happened to be the only election with a massive increase in votes lol.

One thing I’m absolutely sure about is that if Republicans were willing to cheat at the levels of democrats, you would demand voters use ID and never allow unrestricted mail in ballots.

Just as if illegal immigrants voted mostly Republican Biden would have had the border sealed tighter than a bulls ass in fly season.

 

[Daddyo]

Yeah?

Can you give me some examples?

Court just upheld his use of the guard in California.

Try watching Fox or Newsmax a bit. You will get some positive Trump news to go along with all that negative.

 

[The Brad Dad]

And you guys need to stop thinking that because you hate Trump so intensely that everyone must hate his that much. First he was so bad that he increased his vote count from the first election, a sign that always means victory. He didn’t lose support he increased it. Next he increased support with minorities, yet another usual sign of victory. In summary you say he was so awful that folks voted in massive numbers to rid themselves of him yet his support went up.

Sorry, we have no means of knowing if Trump’s vote totals went up organically. We’ll never know if he really won states like Florida.

 

[The Brad Dad]

What they should have done is simply move the AP to the back of the room and rarely or never call on them for a question just like democrats do to Fox.

I’m happy you’re happy with a regime that wants questions like “What time did Trump take his ensure today” white we’re at war

 

[Daddyo]

No law. Just informing them of their rights, those rights guaranteed by US law and three US ratified treaties. Why do you have a problem with that? And the people we informed of their rights were violent? Didn’t know that.

Including shooting people in the legs.

I believe her because Trump told me and the whole world about how he abused women. I believe her because a jury did, and because other women also accused Trump of what he bragged about.

He didn’t need to call Putin a liar. He didn’t need to believe him either, and disbelieve our intelligence agencies.

He called illegals rapists. Offered no proof. He compared legal immigrants like my dad and grandparents to poisonous snakes. Offered no proof. He accepted none of refugees who had already been approved for resettlement in the US after extensive vetting. Then he said South Africa was a tyrannical government, but apparently could only find White victims of their tyranny to bring here as refugees, no Blacks disregarding the others, already approved. Why was that, do you think?

We already know the sanitized description of your actions. I’m trying to explain to you what that information actually did. While you educated many peaceful illegals, who were coming simply to seek work and a better life, who did not qualify for asylum, how to say the right things to get to stay. You also educated lots of bad guys, who would have been returned home immediately, what to say to stay. In doing so you doomed hundreds of innocent Americans to death. Yes hundreds of Americans were murdered by illegals who knew what to say to get to stay. Thousands of women and children were raped by some of those folks you helped game the system. I think it’s disgusting what you did.

Trump told you how women would allow him to do anything to get a leg up on their careers or a pageant. Nearly identical to the woman you voted for lol. Carroll said she was going to lie to get him and you give that zero weight lol. Pathetic.

 

[Nickyjo]

We already know the sanitized description of your actions. I’m trying to explain to you what that information actually did. While you educated many peaceful illegals, who were coming simply to seek work and a better life, who did not qualify for asylum, how to say the right things to get to stay. You also educated lots of bad guys, who would have been returned home immediately, what to say to stay. In doing so you doomed hundreds of innocent Americans to death. Yes hundreds of Americans were murdered by illegals who knew what to say to get to stay. Thousands of women and children were raped by some of those folks you helped game the system. I think it’s disgusting what you did.

Trump told you how women would allow him to do anything to get a leg up on their careers or a pageant. Nearly identical to the woman you voted for lol. Carroll said she was going to lie to get him and you give that zero weight lol. Pathetic.

You have offered no proof if your assertions that informing people of their rights doomed hundreds of Americans to death. The US government had no objections to what we did. In fact, in this case and with respect to similar efforts they were happy with what we did. As one official put it, it helped to separate the wheat from the chaff. If my work caused so much evil, why did the government fly me to Guantanamo to meet with detained asylum seekers, why did the immigration service under Trump cooperate with an organization I volunteered with in El Paso if they felt our efforts were freeing criminals to prey on US citizens and legal residents?

 

[Daddyo]

You have this false belief that millions of American voters during the 2020 election voted on Dominion touch screen machines. However, over 90% of American voters voted on paper ballots during the 2020 election. And Dominion machines do tabulate votes from paper ballots. Link

Audit in Michigan County Refutes Dominion Conspiracy Theory - FactCheck.org

A hand count of paper ballots in Antrim County, Michigan, has verified the election results there, refuting a “forensics report” promoted by President Donald Trump that baselessly claimed the election equipment in the county was “designed” to create “systemic fraud and influence election...

www.factcheck.org

No I don’t. However you have this false belief that there needs to be a very high percentage of votes cast on a dominion machine for cheating to be election altering. I listed the thousands of votes in a few select states that could change the entire outcome. Shit in Florida 500 votes in 2000 changed the entire election.

10 percent of 150,000,000 is 15,000,000. Many times more votes than the differences in those swing states. So saying 90 percent vote on paper is meaningless and irrelevant. You say it only to falsely make it appear as if there is no way for dominion machine cheating to alter an election. This of course is false.

Dominion has both vote machines and tabulation machines. One can’t cheat and the other can. Once again you give information design to fool those who don’t know these facts.

 

[Daddyo]

It passed in 2010, none of the subsidies or the significant insurance regulations (including the creation of metal tier plans) happened until 2014. You were trying to buy in the pre-ACA market. The thing the ACA was created to fix.



No kidding things were different before the ACA was implemented, that's why it was created. The pre-ACA individual insurance market was shit, that was the impetus for reforming it.



Precisely, silver plans didn't exist until 2014. Because, for all intents and purposes here, Obamacare didn't exist until 2014.



None of this is a matter of belief. Legal limits on out-of-pocket liability (including deductibles) have existed since the ACA went into effect in 2014, those are a matter of public record, not belief. For that matter, the premiums and deductibles of all ACA marketplace plans, going back to the first ones in 2014, are available for inspection. For many, many reasons, having any basic knowledge about any of this makes it very easy to spot bullshit stories.

You've been telling this bullshit story for a while, about how the ACA ruined your situation and all you had available were some awful ACA plans. Now, this late in the game, it becomes clear that your story (assuming any of it actually happened) is about trying to navigate the pre-Obamacare insurance market.



Your story literally has nothing to do with that. How is this not clear to you by now?



I admire your commitment to the bit, but obviously this isn't subject to opinion or recollection. ACA premium subsidies did not exist prior to 2014. Nor did ACA plans or ACA marketplaces. Your story is not about the ACA, it's about the world the ACA was created to fix.

What I have been telling you and others is precisely what happened. Obamacare was passed and my insurance premiums doubled. My former employer began to raise our contributions as a result. I decided to shop Obamacare because there were subsidies available. The insurance agent quoted me what he described as an Obamacare silver plan. It was even more expensive than my private group plan from work and totally unusable. I didn’t qualify for any subsidies.

And you can call me a liar for this aswell. I was without insurance for a brief period before getting on my wife’s plan. I was penalized 200 bucks for every month (if I recall correctly) that I was without insurance when I did my taxes. That made me hate the ACA even more.

Now you may not like the truth but it is the truth. I also provided you with information suggesting that very high deductibles were possible pre 2014. The ACA was certainly being sold pre 2014 as my info showed. So you suggesting that it somehow began in 2014 is a lie. The ACA didn’t fix my premiums it exploded them. They doubled! That doubling caused me to shop ACA which was even higher and unusable. Again these are facts no matter how many times you feel it necessary to suggest that I’m lying.

 

[Daddyo]

That's a telling point.

They avoided the 2012 election and rolled out during the 2014 campaign.


ACA was a disaster, but not an unmitigated disaster.

My private insurance from my old job doubled.
The ACA silver plan was even more.
The deductible made it unusable.
I was penalized monthly when I did my taxes for every month I was without insurance.

It was a disaster.