How we know democrats are full of crap

[MAGAnificent]

the current batch of GOP politicians are far worse.

ROFLMAO.

Yet, I can agree that the Dems also make false statements.

Much more so than republicans. The so-called border bill they recently failed to get passed during the Biden Administration is a great example. It was largely a big fat lie.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

You do realize that all this back and forth started because one of you guys brought it up right? I have given it a rest. I’ll explain again……..

Ok, but anyone I’d free to stop.

Your side cheated

Not my side.

Your side used lawfare

Unethical folk of all sorts use lawfare.

What do you think it is when the GOP leader of the Senate uses Senate rules to block a floor vote for a SCOTUS nominee based on “elections have consequences” (a true bastardized notion of the concept, as they certainly do which is why Obama deserved to have his heard as he was the elected holder of the office at the time) when Obama had eight months left in his term, but allow two for Trump with less time left on his if not “lawfare”?

This blatant hypocrisy of you partisans on BOTH sides really crisps my cookies. You’re so ready to call the other guy out on theirs but won’t acknowledge your own.

Your side used censorship

MAGA’s don’t? More hypocrisy.

Your side even tried to kill the man.

MY side puts criminals in prison. If MY side was in charge Trump would have been charged criminally for using a fraudulent charity to steal. He wouldn’t be POTUS now. He’d still be in prison doing his time for using a charity to rip off both the government and people wanting to give to make things better. As prison is where such a person belongs.

You MAGA folk truly need to see the nature of your dog in this hunt. He’s belongs in a cell.

 

[MAGAnificent]

What do you think it is when the GOP leader of the Senate uses Senate rules to block a floor vote for a SCOTUS nominee based on “elections have consequences” (a true bastardized notion of the concept, as they certainly do which is why Obama deserved to have his heard as he was the elected holder of the office at the time) when Obama had eight months left in his term, but allow two for Trump with less time left on his if not “lawfare”?

What McConnell (who I was never a fan of) did in that regard is legal and has been preached by both sides. It is within the rules and does not amount to lawfare. Sicking the FBI, the intelligence services, and the courts on a political opponent in hopes of preventing his entry into a presidential race is lawfare.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

And welcome in the massive and ever growing nanny state.

I work and they sit back and suck off my sweat. No thanks.

What I described in not a “nanny state”. “We’ll help you along for a given time and expect you to boot strap yourself and contribute to the system that’s going to help the next person after you that needs the same help.”, is not a “nanny state”.

I was fully down with the Gingrich/Clinton compromise on welfare. Five years to get your stuff together then it stops. Lifetime support is only for the disabled who have been robbed by fate ifvthe means to support themselves.

I understand human nature, animals in general actually. Nature have animals exert only the energy needed to survive. You work for them and they will never work to support themselves. You are perpetuating laziness.

See above. Mine is all about an oath to self-reliance. Nothing lazy about it.

And unless you’re a graduate of the 25 year social science lab class I took part in couple with my studies in “human dynamics” to bolster it I’ll keep my own counsel on the nature of the animal called human. Sorry if that offends. It’s not meant to but I think I can make a strong case.

As for your “one side gives lip service” to the middle class nonsense lol. Democrats don’t give a shit about the middle class.

I agree. That’s the definition of “lip service”. You pretend to care. I thought you knew that.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

What McConnell (who I was never a fan of) did in that regard is legal and has been preached by both sides. It is within the rules and does not amount to lawfare.

You need to look up “lawfare”.

It specifically means when you use to rules to unfair advantage. When you make the rules a weapon.

So saying, “Those are the rules.” , well duh!

 

[mike2810]

ROFLMAO.

glad you got a laugh out of it

Much more so than republicans. The so-called border bill they recently failed to get passed during the Biden Administration is a great example. It was largely a big fat lie.

- want to talk about the 2020 election fraud some GOP are still spewing?

I have stated for years that Congress is broken. It has become way to partisan to get anything done.

 

[MAGAnificent]

- want to talk about the 2020 election fraud some GOP are still spewing?

Some of which the democrats attempted to repeat in 2024 and failed to get away with. as there was no pandemic to hide it behind.

I have stated for years that Congress is broken. It has become way to partisan to get anything done.

On that, we are in complete agreement. With the lack of congressional term limits, politics in DC has become entirely too tribal. After they serve a couple of terms, they become owned by lobbyists and forget who they are actually supposed to be representing. They also become addicted to power.

 

[mike2810]

Some of which the democrats attempted to repeat in 2024 and failed to get away with. as there was no pandemic to hide it behind.

and the GOP and Trump supporters have yet to provide or release the evidence they claim they have regarding the stolen election.
Numerous audits prove the claim is false.

On that, we are in complete agreement. With the lack of congressional term limits, politics in DC has become entirely too tribal. After they serve a couple of terms, they become owned by lobbyists and forget who they are actually supposed to be representing. They also become addicted to power.

agree.

 

[Brack]

You know it was fraud lol. Just have the integrity to admit it.

However. you never link to any evidence that shows that there was election fraud during the 2020 election.

 

[MAGAnificent]

and the GOP and Trump supporters have yet to provide or release the evidence they claim they have regarding the stolen election.
Numerous audits prove the claim is false.

It's not just about audits. It's about actions and optics. First, the democrats used pandemic panic porn to fast-track unsecure mass mailout balloting in several swing states without taking the time to first clean up the voting rolls. The results were many voters receiving multiple ballots. Many married women received a ballot for their married name and another in their maiden name. Others received ballots in more than one state. Optics: In the 2024 election in some democrat controlled precincts in Pennsylvania, they attempted to steal a Senate seat by counting obviously invalid ballots, were told by the State Supreme Court to stop doing so, continued anyway until the governor ultimately stopped them. It does not a take a stretch to assume they employed the same tactic in the 2020. And again, there is that no objective individual seriously believes that a non-charismatic candidate like Biden, who barely campaigned at all legitimately garnered 81 million votes, vastly surpassing charismatic democrats like Obama and Bill Clinton.

 

[Brack]

And again, there is that no objective individual seriously believes that a non-charismatic candidate like Biden, who barely campaigned at all legitimately garnered 81 million votes, vastly surpassing charismatic democrats like Obama and Bill Clinton.

And folks still forget that there was a pandemic back in 2020.

 

[mike2810]

It's not just about audits. It's about actions and optics. First, the democrats used pandemic panic porn to fast-track unsecure mass mailout balloting in several swing states without taking the time to first clean up the voting rolls. The results were many voters receiving multiple ballots. Many married women received a ballot for their married name and another in their maiden name. Others received ballots in more than one state. Optics: In the 2024 election in some democrat controlled precincts in Pennsylvania, they attempted to steal a Senate seat by counting obviously invalid ballots, were told by the State Supreme Court to stop doing so, continued anyway until the governor ultimately stopped them. It does not a take a stretch to assume they employed the same tactic in the 2020. And again, there is that no objective individual seriously believes that a non-charismatic candidate like Biden, who barely campaigned at all legitimately garnered 81 million votes, vastly surpassing charismatic democrats like Obama and Bill Clinton.

yes, the optics of the Trump supporters. A false narrative to fit Trump believe that the election was stolen.

What is so funny is when in 2020 a GOP person won their election did they cry election fraud? Nope.

 

[MAGAnificent]

yes, the optics of the Trump supporters. A false narrative to fit Trump believe that the election was stolen.

What is so funny is when in 2020 a GOP person won their election did they cry election fraud? Nope.

What you are apparently missing is that I am pointing out some election fraud in the 2024 election as well. How many times do I have the repeat the democrat party attempt to steal a Senate seat in PA in 2024?

 

[MAGAnificent]

And folks still forget that there was a pandemic back in 2020.

Which is part of why the democrats were able to get away with 2020 election fraud.

 

[mike2810]

What you are apparently missing is that I am pointing out some election fraud in the 2024 election as well. How many times do I have the repeat the democrat party attempt to steal a Senate seat in PA in 2024?

Until you provide links to the evidence that proves what you are saying is true it is nothing more than an opinion.

How about the 2020 election with the Republicans trying to steal the election in Arizona?

Attorney General Mayes Releases Unredacted Copy of Indictment in Fake Electors Case

PHOENIX – Attorney General Kris Mayes today released an unredacted copy of the indictment issued in late April by the State Grand Jury in the ongoing investigation into the fake elector scheme in Arizona.

www.azag.gov

the case is working through the courts.

The cases against fake electors and where they stand - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

As part of Donald Trump and his allies’ nationwide effort to undermine the 2020 presidential election, 84 total fake electors across seven states signed false electoral certificates claiming that Trump won the election in their states. As of June 2024, fake electors from Arizona, Georgia...

www.citizensforethics.org

 

[Brack]

Which is part of why the democrats were able to get away with 2020 election fraud.

In Pennsylvania, no-excuse mail-in voting was passed by the GOP-controlled legislature in 2019, which was a few months before the COVID pandemic. During the 2020 PA election, Biden won the same 13 PA counties that Obama did back in 2012.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Until you provide links to the evidence that proves what you are saying is true it is nothing more than an opinion.

Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots in McCormick-Casey race

Republicans have accused Pennsylvania Democrats of attempting to "steal" the Senate election after officials in blue counties admitted to defying court precedent and election law.

www.foxnews.com

 

[The Brad Dad]

It's not just about audits. It's about actions and optics. First, the democrats used pandemic panic porn to fast-track unsecure mass mailout balloting in several swing states without taking the time to first clean up the voting rolls. The results were many voters receiving multiple ballots. Many married women received a ballot for their married name and another in their maiden name. Others received ballots in more than one state. Optics: In the 2024 election in some democrat controlled precincts in Pennsylvania, they attempted to steal a Senate seat by counting obviously invalid ballots, were told by the State Supreme Court to stop doing so, continued anyway until the governor ultimately stopped them. It does not a take a stretch to assume they employed the same tactic in the 2020. And again, there is that no objective individual seriously believes that a non-charismatic candidate like Biden, who barely campaigned at all legitimately garnered 81 million votes, vastly surpassing charismatic democrats like Obama and Bill Clinton.

Trump generated the bulk of those 81 million votes. The “pandemic porn” you’re referring to was to the tune of 10k Americans dying a day from covid over a stretch of time. Covid was real and cost Trump the election. Republican claims of election fraud were never proven and thrown out of every single court it was brought before.

 

[The Brad Dad]

However. you never link to any evidence that shows that there was election fraud during the 2020 election.

Because there isn’t any. In fact the only fraud on display was Trump threatening Georgia if they didn’t steal votes for him

 

[Nickyjo]

Politicians rarely lose when they get more votes during their reelection. It means more folks liked his policies. Unless some anomaly happens, like massive cheating, it almost always means they win.

Also it shits in the face of folks who say that a massive wave came to remove the unpopular candidate. If he was so unpopular his numbers would have shrunk. Understand bud?

He lost in 2020. I assume you, bud understand that. Too bad he didn’t.

Yes you are full of Hate. Don’t care about trumps hate levels.


I voted for him for his policies yet folks like you continue to bring up his past.

If you were running for president and I wanted to give you a taste of what you are doing to Trump I would say that in the past you disagreed with our country’s border policy and decided to deliberately and purposefully undermine that policy by teaching violent illegals how to stay in this country. Your efforts and actions led to the rape of thousands of women and children as well as the vicious murder of hundreds of innocent Americans. You also aided in the trafficking of human beings as well as the fentanyl epidemic.

What in the world are you talking about in that last paragraph? How did my work with asylum seekers - work that was praised by immigration judges and INS (ICE), and was in accord with US law and three ratified treaties - cause crime? I disagreed with Reagan’s absurd asylum actions, but was part of Bush One’s efforts to correct them. How did that cause crime?

 

[Captain America]

A MAGA questioning anyone's intelligence is beyond laughable.

Magas arecsimply the biggest collection of idiots ever assembled.

I know, right?!?

You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Trump generated the bulk of those 81 million votes

Well, he must have left Kamala out in 2024.

 

[mike2810]

Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots in McCormick-Casey race

Republicans have accused Pennsylvania Democrats of attempting to "steal" the Senate election after officials in blue counties admitted to defying court precedent and election law.

www.foxnews.com

/sarcasm
ignoring a court order. Seems they are following President Trump and his cabinet staff lead.

 

[MAGAnificent]

/sarcasm
ignoring a court order. Seems they are following President Trump and his cabinet staff lead.

I am curious. What court order did Trump and staff ignore?

 

[mike2810]

I am curious. What court order did Trump and staff ignore?

I take it you do not keep up with some events then.


- Baring the AP from the Oval Office press conference.
- At first ignoring court order regarding the Garcia case.
- there are others regarding deportation




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Bondi defiant, says Abrego Garcia will stay in El Salvador 'end of the story'

Attorney General Pam Bondi doubled down on claims that it is up to El Salvador to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia – even as a judge is still weighing the case in court.

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