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It seems pretty difficult to determine who has the moral high ground in Israel considering how much both sides leave out. Ask a christian or jew and they'll tell you that the IDF is only trying to protect Irael and that the palestinians don't want peace and just want to destroy israel. Muslims will usually tell you that the palestinians are victims of discrimination and will sometimes compare Israel's actions to nazi germany's policies on jews or the apartheid regime which ruled south africa until the early 90s (I'm not the one comparing them to either of those 2 things; do not take this sentence out of context).
Often the best solution to when 2 sides declare themselves as victims and demonize the other side, we can take the middle ground so what do we actually find?
On the palestinian side, we find 2 factions: Fatah and Hamas. The former wants an independent state and seems to be more willing to ccooperate with Israel while the latter is a designated terrorist organization which has sworn to destroy the jewish state (they take it a step further and deny the holocaust).
On the other side, we find Israel. On the freedom index, Israel has the highest scores higher than any middle eastern or arab country, followed by tunisia then turkey. They by far, excel the rest of the middle east in religious freedom While in most of the middle east, christians and atheists will face discrimination, in Israel The IDF also withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and have done a very good job in protecting Israeli citizens from terrorists. On the other hand, the IDF tends to go too far in protecting Israelites. Discrimination is quite prevailant; although there are laws against racism, it has not prevented the Israeli government from Israel has been accused of building settlements in the west bank. In fact, the IDF controls a majority of the west bank.
For there to be peace in Israel both sides must do a few things.
Israel:
Pass laws similar to the civil rights act and end eminent domain abuse
discontinue the construction of jewish settlements. The currently existing settlements must be converted into open cities
be willing to grant citizenship to palestinians in return for obtaining all of the west bank and end military rule there
If fatah is very uncooperative with the idea of annexation in return for equality then Israel must grant the west bank full autonomy. The IDF will still be allowed to have bases there but they will only be there to prevent terrorists. Jerusalem cannot be divided. The West Bank wall is a symbol of the segregation between the Jewish Israel and the Muslim west bank. It runs through Jerusalem and it divides it in half. In order for there to be peace, Netanyahu must tear down this wall.
topple the hamas regime, deindoctrinate the children, and be willing to grant the residents of gaza citizenship.
Palestinians:
prominent palestinian figures must denounce hamas as a terrorist organization.
end antisemitism and calls to destroy israel
the PNA police force must effectively contain terrorism
If these conditions can be achieved, Israel will have a very good relationship with Palestine especially considering that the Arab League refuses to grant Palestinian refugees citizenship.
Often the best solution to when 2 sides declare themselves as victims and demonize the other side, we can take the middle ground so what do we actually find?
On the palestinian side, we find 2 factions: Fatah and Hamas. The former wants an independent state and seems to be more willing to ccooperate with Israel while the latter is a designated terrorist organization which has sworn to destroy the jewish state (they take it a step further and deny the holocaust).
On the other side, we find Israel. On the freedom index, Israel has the highest scores higher than any middle eastern or arab country, followed by tunisia then turkey. They by far, excel the rest of the middle east in religious freedom While in most of the middle east, christians and atheists will face discrimination, in Israel The IDF also withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and have done a very good job in protecting Israeli citizens from terrorists. On the other hand, the IDF tends to go too far in protecting Israelites. Discrimination is quite prevailant; although there are laws against racism, it has not prevented the Israeli government from Israel has been accused of building settlements in the west bank. In fact, the IDF controls a majority of the west bank.
For there to be peace in Israel both sides must do a few things.
Israel:
Pass laws similar to the civil rights act and end eminent domain abuse
discontinue the construction of jewish settlements. The currently existing settlements must be converted into open cities
be willing to grant citizenship to palestinians in return for obtaining all of the west bank and end military rule there
If fatah is very uncooperative with the idea of annexation in return for equality then Israel must grant the west bank full autonomy. The IDF will still be allowed to have bases there but they will only be there to prevent terrorists. Jerusalem cannot be divided. The West Bank wall is a symbol of the segregation between the Jewish Israel and the Muslim west bank. It runs through Jerusalem and it divides it in half. In order for there to be peace, Netanyahu must tear down this wall.
topple the hamas regime, deindoctrinate the children, and be willing to grant the residents of gaza citizenship.
Palestinians:
prominent palestinian figures must denounce hamas as a terrorist organization.
end antisemitism and calls to destroy israel
the PNA police force must effectively contain terrorism
If these conditions can be achieved, Israel will have a very good relationship with Palestine especially considering that the Arab League refuses to grant Palestinian refugees citizenship.