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How the FDA lets chemicals pour into America's food supply

Cope said:
Back of the napkin:

Calories in vs Calories out = weight, Healthy or obese.

Yes, OTHER factors matter. NONE matter as much as diet.
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None matter much as diet to how much you weigh. That's been proven. (You can't out-exercise a bad diet, etc.)

But this is about health.

The number one and two direct killers behind driving accidents are cigarettes and alcohol.

RFJK doesn't want to make America healthier, he wants us to look thinner.

That's a personal preference and NONE of his ****ing business.

He's starting out with "chemicals!!!" b/c he figures that will be common ground, knowing nobody is going to say, "Oh yes, sprinkle on a few more chemicals, I LOVE those." But the Make America Healthier Again agenda is to dig into actual medicines and to have *full* control over what we are "allowed" to ingest. You'll note none of Make America Healthy again addresses the "chemicals!!!!" that are belched into our air and water and soil on a daily, actually hourly basis, nor cigarettes, nor alcohol, hmmmmm. Sure. Not eating a food dye will overcome all that. :rolleyes:

In fact that's probably why it focuses on kids, plus the fact that, again, "kids" should be a common denominator. This administration is looking for an "in" on what everybody will get behind so they can get a toehold on owning everything. Literally everything. Now it's "Big Pharma." (While easing regulations on what shit is belched into our air and water.) No MAGAs here are noticing this?


Cope said:
If you want to get into why American are worse at controlling those other factors as well, we can.

They are lazy, sedentary, feel good about being fat (because society tells us to make it so), we make shit for food, and call it nutrition. We don't exercise, and we stopped promoting PE in elementary schools to focus on the failing educational system,. Some lot of good that did us huh?

Got any others?

The very few that can't be controlled for, like genetics, can be significantly altered by (you guessed it) DIET.

We are fat, and obese as a nation because WE CHOSE IT, and others continue to excuse it

To use your analogy:

Cost benefit analysis for me: Better for you? Kale or Soda?

Now do that with EVERYTHING you chose to put in your body. It isn't the ONE thing, it's the sum total of ALL the things. Primarily DIET

Step ONE: Stop Choosing it, and others, STOP excusing it.
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EnchantedMuggle said:
None matter much as diet to how much you weigh. That's been proven. (You can't out-exercise a bad diet, etc.)

But this is about health.

The number one and two direct killers behind driving accidents are cigarettes and alcohol.

RFJK doesn't want to make America healthier, he wants us to look thinner.

That's a personal preference and NONE of his ****ing business.

He's starting out with "chemicals!!!" b/c he figures that will be common ground, knowing nobody is going to say, "Oh yes, sprinkle on a few more chemicals, I LOVE those." But the Make America Healthier Again agenda is to dig into actual medicines and to have *full* control over what we are "allowed" to ingest. You'll note none of Make America Healthy again addresses the "chemicals!!!!" that are belched into our air and water and soil on a daily, actually hourly basis, nor cigarettes, nor alcohol, hmmmmm. Sure. Not eating a food dye will overcome all that. :rolleyes:

In fact that's probably why it focuses on kids, plus the fact that, again, "kids" should be a common denominator. This administration is looking for an "in" on what everybody will get behind so they can get a toehold on owning everything. Literally everything. Now it's "Big Pharma." (While easing regulations on what shit is belched into our air and water.) No MAGAs here are noticing this?
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RFK never mentions being ‘thinner”. Our food supply for the most part is not healthy. I don’t believe the government should have “full” control over what we are allowed to digest but I do believe they should make it clear to us what we are choosing to put into our bodies. You specifically mention kids. Do you believe that currently our children are eating a healthy diet? If so, can you explain the surge in health issues seen in a record breaking numbers of children due to their diet and lifestyle? Diabetes and other illnesses.
 
TamleeB said:
RFK never mentions being ‘thinner”. Our food supply for the most part is not healthy. I don’t believe the government should have “full” control over what we are allowed to digest but I do believe they should make it clear to us what we are choosing to put into our bodies. You specifically mention kids. Do you believe that currently our children are eating a healthy diet? If so, can you explain the surge in health issues seen in a record breaking numbers of children due to their diet and lifestyle? Diabetes and other illnesses.
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MAHA is all about obesity -- and what medications we are to be allowed.

And then worries about chemicals in foods...while saying nothing about cigarettes, alcohol or industrial waste. Or car emissions...or any emissions. Those are okay.

Do you believe having chartreuse taken out of your cupcake icing will overcome what we belch out into the air and water on the daily as a nation?

This is so obviously not about health. It's about having an "in" to have total control. Right down to control over our very bodies.

MAGAs are 100% on board with this.

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Are American children or adults healthy? No. Since the 70s but especially the 80s, it has no longer been think about others or wait for anything. It has been greed is good. More more more. I want I want I want. Who with their McMansion and giant SUV for a family of 3 and "**** your needs, I'm getting mine, go starve" mentality is going to stop what they put into their mouths?

The current administration tells us the answer is: simply FORBID foods.

No choice. Just forbid.

Nanny state times ten.

Again: MAGAs are fully on board with this.
 
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EnchantedMuggle said:
MAHA is all about obesity -- and what medications we are to be allowed.

And then worries about chemicals in foods...while saying nothing about cigarettes, alcohol or industrial waste. Or car emissions...or any emissions. Those are okay.

Do you believe having chartreuse taken out of your cupcake icing will overcome what we belch out into the air and water on the daily as a nation?

This is so obviously not about health. It's about having g an "in" to have total control.

MAGAs are 100% on board with this.
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MAHA is about health. It all starts with the choices we make on what we want to put into our bodies. It starts in childhood. He addresses the actual benefits and downfalls of the food and medications. The air and water is another entire issue.
Do you believe our food supply is safe? That the direction our food supply has gone over the past 30 plus years is healthy? I do NOT believe it as much about “control” as being informed. We have been misled about the ingredients in our foods for years. We have been feeding our children foods with ingredients that are not even allowed in other Countries.
 
TamleeB said:
MAHA is about health. It all starts with the choices we make on what we want to put into our bodies. It starts in childhood. He addresses the actual benefits and downfalls of the food and medications. The air and water is another entire issue.
Do you believe our food supply is safe? That the direction our food supply has gone over the past 30 plus years is healthy? I do NOT believe it as much about “control” as being informed. We have been misled about the ingredients in our foods for years. We have been feeding our children foods with ingredients that are not even allowed in other Countries.
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Do you believe how we allow industry, cars, etc. to belch toxins at us is safe?

Do you think anyone can be "all about health and worried about increase in chronic disease" and literally ignore that subject entirely?

Are you interested in purchasing some waterfront property in Arizona?
 
Revelation said:
it is for me.

the Doc told me the next Vax will kill me. that sounds Very Toxic to me...........i found the Door quickly, the man saved my life. he was an Old Wise Doctor in a small town and didn't care what Pharma was preaching.

i need to find him and bless him.

since then, i warn others; even if they don't pay attention. most don't.

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Now that's scientific evidence for sure.
 
TamleeB said:
MAHA is about health. It all starts with the choices we make on what we want to put into our bodies. It starts in childhood. He addresses the actual benefits and downfalls of the food and medications. The air and water is another entire issue.
Do you believe our food supply is safe? That the direction our food supply has gone over the past 30 plus years is healthy? I do NOT believe it as much about “control” as being informed. We have been misled about the ingredients in our foods for years. We have been feeding our children foods with ingredients that are not even allowed in other Countries.
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We should care about what we are exposed to, not just in the form of foods but anything that's in the environment. Very true.

Now, since this thread has a huge political lean, lets cue in JFKj and also Mr. Trump's lack of environmental understanding because what we eat is directly related to how the food is made available. A clean environment makes for better foods.

Please note #4 for just some good clean fun.
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Top 5 Environmental Actions You Should Know from President Trump’s First Day | Environmental and Energy Brief

On January 20, 2025, President Trump began his second term with the signing of 26 executive orders (EOs), which included the recission of almost 80 EOs of the previous administration. […]
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MAGAs are such hypocrites. It seems to be ok to muck up the world we live in but it is ok to complain about stuff.
 
Lovebug said:
Now that's scientific evidence for sure.
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it is if you ever had an alergic shock to medicine of ANY kind

it isn't if you have no clue, never studied pharmaceuticals or worked in the medical field which i have.

suit yourself. i just give you the facts, you have to sort them out. of course you have two choices: right or wrong.


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The soda companies get 25% of their sales from SNAP so they are bribing people to shill for them online.

 
EnchantedMuggle said:
Do you believe how we allow industry, cars, etc. to belch toxins at us is safe?

Do you think anyone can be "all about health and worried about increase in chronic disease" and literally ignore that subject entirely?

Are you interested in purchasing some waterfront property in Arizona?
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I don’t believe any subject should be completely “ignored”. How do you feel about nuclear fuel? Do you consider it a clean energy source? And by the way there really was no need for your sarcastic ending remark.
 
Lovebug said:
We should care about what we are exposed to, not just in the form of foods but anything that's in the environment. Very true.

Now, since this thread has a huge political lean, lets cue in JFKj and also Mr. Trump's lack of environmental understanding because what we eat is directly related to how the food is made available. A clean environment makes for better foods.

Please note #4 for just some good clean fun.
environmentalenergybrief.sidley.com

Top 5 Environmental Actions You Should Know from President Trump’s First Day | Environmental and Energy Brief

On January 20, 2025, President Trump began his second term with the signing of 26 executive orders (EOs), which included the recission of almost 80 EOs of the previous administration. […]
environmentalenergybrief.sidley.com environmentalenergybrief.sidley.com

MAGAs are such hypocrites. It seems to be ok to muck up the world we live in but it is ok to complain about stuff.
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I have no problem with working on the environment. What would you like to see changed? By the way, there are use as many Democrats that are hypocrites as Republicans. ;)
 
Manc Skipper said:
Thankfully MAGATs are nowhere near half the country. They do control much of antisocial media though.
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America made a choice in November. There was clearly a reason for that decision. At this point it is likely mid terms could go the same way. ;)
 
I'm guessing that increase is due to the illegals.

 
TamleeB said:
I don’t believe any subject should be completely “ignored”. How do you feel about nuclear fuel? Do you consider it a clean energy source? And by the way there really was no need for your sarcastic ending remark.
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How does MAHA feel about it?

If the goal is to make people "healthy" again, why are all toxins except the ones in foods ignored?

They're not even mentioned. Especially the ones where the current administration wants to relax regulations...hmmm.

Why are you unable to answer this question? Or heck, anybody, since Tamlee doesn't seem to want to. The question is open. So...how come?
 
NOLA Dude said:
Oh MAGATs. How clever! Did you hear that in 2nd grade?
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I actually find the name calling rather telling. In fact it is often humorous. At this point it is there only hope. ;)
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
How does MAHA feel about it?

If the goal is to make people "healthy" again, why are all toxins except the ones in foods ignored?

They're not even mentioned. Especially the ones where the current administration wants to relax regulations...hmmm.

Why are you unable to answer this question? Or heck, anybody, since Tamlee doesn't seem to want to. The question is open. So...how come?
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Wait…..you didn’t answer my question. What is your opinion of nuclear energy? I answered your question, how about you answer mine.
 
TamleeB said:
I actually find the name calling rather telling. In fact it is often humorous. At this point it is there only hope. ;)
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It's quite obvious they can't refute the post they are responding to when they resort to the juvenile insults. It's basically like them waving the white flag.
 
TamleeB said:
Wait…..you didn’t answer my question. What is your opinion of nuclear energy? I answered your question, how about you answer mine.
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How about you answer the question I have asked you several times already, well before you asked this one?

You didn't answer it.

If you can't, I welcome anyone else to.

Strange how MAGAs are so silent on this question.
 
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