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How racist are liberals?

Is the left racist?


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You can't have a racist liberal. Racism is a form of conservatism. Not all conservatives are racist but all racists are conservative.
What a stupid statement, one must be completely ignorant of history and political philosophy to say something so blatantly untrue
 
I don't think the idea of pure liberalism has room for racism in it.

Poll is a false octochotomy.
Modern racism is an invention of liberalism. So you’re wrong and you need to acquire more education before commenting on topics like these
 
Modern racism is an invention of liberalism. So you’re wrong and you need to acquire more education before commenting on topics like these
I totally agree....I work within a pretty rough and ready work environment...if racism existed to any great extent I'd see it here...but there is none.
 
I hear this one a lot from the right, like a LOT. Accusations of racism right to left might equal or outnumber the reverse.


You bet!

The left HATES WHITE CONSERVATIVES
 
Modern racism is an invention of liberalism. So you’re wrong and you need to acquire more education before commenting on topics like these
An invention of liberalism, or an invention of liberalism's retarded Commie little brother, Social Marxism?
I will pose it is the latter.
 
Let's see......didn't Joe Biden call black men 'predators' on our streets while advocating for the 1994 violent crime bill. Joe Biden quote:

We have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created. They are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale. Its sad commentary on society, We have no choice but to take them our of society.

While Hillary referred to black men as 'super-predators' Hillary Clinton referring to black gang members as "super-predators" who need to be "brought to heel" in support of criminal sentencing reforms in 1996.
 
I hear this one a lot from the right, like a LOT. Accusations of racism right to left might equal or outnumber the reverse.

Racism in the US, today, is not defined by segregation, Jim Crow and the KKK. It’s institutionalized or structural.
Our state and federal policies, laws and practices inadvertently limit access to income, goods, services and opportunities for for the poor and those effect the quality of their neighborhood, housing, education, income, food, air, water, medical treatment, and the types of interactions they have with the criminal justice system. It’s not deliberate racism but because of the way our institutions are structured the laws we make work to keep certain groups poor and keep them from participating in the benefits and protection of society.

Almost nobody notices this structural racism. But it is there and minorities suffer the consequences.

Longevity is an example. Minorities have consistently shorter lives than the general population. Convenience stores selling prepackaged snack foods are the primary food source in poor neighborhoods. Transportation to grocery stores is complex and expensive; daily or weekly trips are maximally difficult. Diets and health are poor.

Health services and insurance available to the poor make it difficult to catch diseases in time to cure. Many medical regimes require consistent attention to schedule of medications and diet. When there is no assurance that they will be followed rigidly the regime will be denied. Illnesses last longer, people are out of work longer, earning power is lowered and people die sooner. Dying sooner mean less time to accumulate wealth. Poverty not wealth is passed to the next generation of minorities.

Nobody did anything deliberately to create this situation, but the result is segregation of the poor and the racism of it is very real.
 
Racism in the US, today, is not defined by segregation, Jim Crow and the KKK. It’s institutionalized or structural.
Our state and federal policies, laws and practices inadvertently limit access to income, goods, services and opportunities for for the poor and those effect the quality of their neighborhood, housing, education, income, food, air, water, medical treatment, and the types of interactions they have with the criminal justice system. It’s not deliberate racism but because of the way our institutions are structured the laws we make work to keep certain groups poor and keep them from participating in the benefits and protection of society.

Almost nobody notices this structural racism. But it is there and minorities suffer the consequences.

Longevity is an example. Minorities have consistently shorter lives than the general population. Convenience stores selling prepackaged snack foods are the primary food source in poor neighborhoods. Transportation to grocery stores is complex and expensive; daily or weekly trips are maximally difficult. Diets and health are poor.

Health services and insurance available to the poor make it difficult to catch diseases in time to cure. Many medical regimes require consistent attention to schedule of medications and diet. When there is no assurance that they will be followed rigidly the regime will be denied. Illnesses last longer, people are out of work longer, earning power is lowered and people die sooner. Dying sooner mean less time to accumulate wealth. Poverty not wealth is passed to the next generation of minorities.

Nobody did anything deliberately to create this situation, but the result is segregation of the poor and the racism of it is very real.
So Asians are doing really shit then, yeah?
 
So Asians are doing really shit then, yeah?

Some are and some aren't.Look up some statistics about poor Asians. Hmong aren't doing well.

from Pew Research comes this:
according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of government data. While Asians overall rank as the highest earning racial and ethnic group in the U.S., it is not a status shared by all Asians: From 1970 to 2016, the gains in income for lower-income Asians trailed well behind the gains for their counterparts in other groups.

An increase in income inequality matters because of the potential for social and economic consequences. People at the lower rungs of the income ladder may experience diminished economic opportunity and mobility and have less political influence. Researchers have also linked growing inequality to greater geographic segregation by income. In addition, there is evidence that rising inequality may harm overall economic growth by reducing consumption levels, causing excessive borrowing by lower- to middle-income families, or limiting investment in education.
 
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I hear this one a lot from the right, like a LOT. Accusations of racism right to left might equal or outnumber the reverse.
Uh huh

So, here's the thing. Humans are tribal, and that influences everyone in different ways. Structural racism impacts pretty much everyone, regardless of personal intentions or ideas or feelings, which is why it is so dangerous.

Holding leftist political ideas doesn't magically cure racism. In fact, we now understand that some of the past assimilationist or "cure racism by pulling up your bootstraps" policies advocated by the left were essentially racist, as they essentially eradicate the culture of the impacted community, or placed the blame for racism on those negatively impacted by racism. One of the main ways this manifests is with a distaste for racial integration in schools, and people sorting

That said, the flaws of the left don't hold a candle to the decades of racism by the right wing and Republicans. It was the right wing that pushed for segregation, and Republicans who decided in the 1970s (and ever since) to play up racism as an electoral strategy. This has only accelerated in the past few years, with Trump inviting white supremacists and other explicit racists into the Republican fold; and, of course, rejecting any suggestions that racism is still an issue.

We also see leftists (and most Americans, really) recognizing that structural racism, discrimination, segregation and other racial issues still persist; and that they want to actually address the issue. It is the left, not the right, that is embracing anti-racism. Sometimes this doesn't work out well (e.g. Robin DiAngelo), sometimes it does (Ibram X. Kendi).

Of course, the real reason why conservatives today try to tag the left with the "racist" label is because they realize that overt racism is no longer acceptable, and thus they try to use it as a snarl word and false accusation, in an attempt to exculpate themselves for their own moral failings, draw attention away from their own racist actions, and attack their political rivals.
 
My liberal college professor dad hates Jews and rarely misses an opportunity to drop an N-bomb if he thinks it's appropriate.
Cool story bro. That obviously proves what tens of millions of people really believe. :rolleyes:
 
Cool story bro. That obviously proves what tens of millions of people really believe. :rolleyes:

Ugh...

Go away. I'm not interested in you.
 
What a stupid statement, one must be completely ignorant of history and political philosophy to say something so blatantly untrue
his comments are nothing more than trolling.. rich urban liberal elites are permeated with racists
 
There is a distinction between "the left" as in individuals and left in terms of policy. Left wing policy absolutely keep minorities down. No doubt there are people on both sides who are racist ( as an aside do people chose to be prejudiced?) but it is liberal policy that holds peole back an I guess by extension those who vote liberal.

Obviously the civil rights and labor laws have kept minorities down. And let's not get started on Medicare, Medicaid and the ACA, disasters for minorities.
 
Obviously the civil rights and labor laws have kept minorities down. And let's not get started on Medicare, Medicaid and the ACA, disasters for minorities.
many of the welfare-socialist handouts have kept generations of some minorities dependent on the government
 
many of the welfare-socialist handouts have kept generations of some minorities dependent on the government

Oh, the old welfare queen argument. Not factual, outdated, but still alive. Include me and my parents. They were on relief during the depression, I benefit from welfare in the form of SS and Medicare, plus another government medical program when I was uninsurable. Count me dependent. My wife too, as tho not on Medicare, she is shamelessly dependent on pre-existing conditions protection. And We are even members of a minority! Rumor has it that these programs also help other white people as well, and get this: they exist in Europe where there are no minorities like we have here. And Trump wants to create more dependency with a better version of the ACA. Will socialists like him ever learn?
 
...... rich urban liberal elites are permeated with racists

I've heard conservatives say rich urban liberal elites are racist over and over but no one has ever posted any quotes or statistics proving that they are racists. Perhaps you could oblige?
 
Ugh...

Go away. I'm not interested in you.
lol

No surprise that you completely failed to address the far more substantive post.

Anyway, feel free to use the Ignore feature. Either way, I have no problems calling out any worthless anecdotes you happen to post.
 
The Left is the most racist!
Proponents of counting us as,
Black. Latino. Asian. Pacific Islander. Native American. White. etc.
Constantly creating awareness based on skin color, race.
That is racist. Fostered by the left.


Moi
 
I hear this one a lot from the right, like a LOT. Accusations of racism right to left might equal or outnumber the reverse.

Modern progressives are so racist it's hard to tell them apart from white supremacists.
 
There are clearly some differences between races...there are no non- blacks of west African descent in the top 100m sprinters in the world for instance, there are no great black swimmers... there are also IQ differences..but in moral terms there are no differences...and that is the only measure that really matters.


Of the top ten 100m sprinters of all time, only one is from east Africa. 4 of the top 5 (one in a tie) are from Jamaica, whom are descended from west African.

"swimmers", "IQ". You are so exposed and discredited.
 
it is CRITICAL that Southern Conservatives (where the KKK and such came from) talk as much as possible about other people being racist.

it's just attacking other people for their own racist beliefs. and it's pretty smart to do so.
 
Obviously the civil rights and labor laws have kept minorities down. And let's not get started on Medicare, Medicaid and the ACA, disasters for minorities.

well actually there are many ways those laws have hurt black Americans, high minimum wage has kept the lower orders of blacks out of meaningful employment, labor laws have benefitted illegal aliens who’ve taken the jobs on the rung between low skill and middle skill, non discrimination laws have not actually changed black unemployment, in fact even in the south and Apartheid South Africa there was very little private sector based discrimination against qualified black workers
 
well actually there are many ways those laws have hurt black Americans, high minimum wage has kept the lower orders of blacks out of meaningful employment, labor laws have benefitted illegal aliens who’ve taken the jobs on the rung between low skill and middle skill, non discrimination laws have not actually changed black unemployment, in fact even in the south and Apartheid South Africa there was very little private sector based discrimination against qualified black workers
So black people would be better off without minimum wage, civil rights laws and other labor protections? Strange that few black people seem to see it that way. Bad Martin Luther King! You never should have gone to Tennessee to help striking workers.
 
So black people would be better off without minimum wage, civil rights laws and other labor protections? Strange that few black people seem to see it that way. Bad Martin Luther King! You never should have gone to Tennessee to help striking workers.

Maybe if those minorities had a stable family environment and had an incentive to stay in school with a stable family they, blacks you refer too, wouldn't need government help. And yes I believe King would agree.
 
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