How much will you trust a President Trump with classified information?

[Casper]

you seem to confuse out in the open investigations with prosecutors vs behind the scenes harassment with IRS investigations, audits etc

Oh come on TD, misuse of power is misuse, period.

 

[Logicman]

Simple question --- how much will you trust a President Trump when he receives a security clearance and has access to crucial top security information?

I'll trust him a lot more than Crooked Hillary, who should be in jail for her abuse of power and confidential matters.

 

[TurtleDude]

Oh come on TD, misuse of power is misuse, period.

uh an investigation of corruption is not a misuse of power. using the IRS to audit an organization because of their politics is a clear and obvious abuse of power.

 

[MaggieD]

uh an investigation of corruption is not a misuse of power. using the IRS to audit an organization because of their politics is a clear and obvious abuse of power.

Just FYI, your Inbox is full.

 

[jet57]

Incompetent pretty much sums it up. But since you'd like more of an explanation ....

He doesn't even know what the political philosophy he supposedly stands for means. When asked what conservatism is says "Uh...well... we, like, conserve things."
He has shown how little knowledge he has of foreign affairs.
He first he spoke against Israel and now he's totally on their side.

There are more reasons. I'm just tired of thinking about them.

Overall --- I don't trust him whatsoever with anything to do with leading our country.

Very well said. Thank you.

I just think he's a colossal jerk

 

[Casper]

uh an investigation of corruption is not a misuse of power. using the IRS to audit an organization because of their politics is a clear and obvious abuse of power.

Yes it is when done for political reasons, which was what the GOP has done. Abuse of power is always wrong.

 

[Born Free]

True and I hope they hold the Senate, problem is so many will vote against Trump the Dems will probably get the Senate back. No, neither side Learns.

And nobody will vote against Crocked Hillary.

 

[Casper]

And nobody will vote against Crocked Hillary.

Sure they will, just not enough to offset those voting against Trump.

 

[Born Free]

Sure they will, just not enough to offset those voting against Trump.

We'll have to wait and see now won't we. The Pubs have been on a role of late WINNING back the Senate and the House under Obama's failures and of course Hillary's failures, now all that is left is the White House for a home run sweep. Just saying.

 

[Casper]

We'll have to wait and see now won't we. The Pubs have been on a role of late WINNING back the Senate and the House under Obama's failures and of course Hillary's failures, now all that is left is the White House for a home run sweep. Just saying.

The problem is the GOP, well a part of the GOP, decided that Trump would be the alternative to Hillary, they could not have helped Hillary win any better if it had been a conspiracy by the DNC.

 

[Born Free]

The problem is the GOP, well a part of the GOP, decided that Trump would be the alternative to Hillary, they could not have helped Hillary win any better if it had been a conspiracy by the DNC.

You can say that until the cows come home but it changes nothing. Election day is all that matters. We'll see. So far my horse has won twice in a row and up for a third win.

 

[eohrnberger]

I'll trust him a lot more than Crooked Hillary, who should be in jail for her abuse of power and confidential matters.

Exactly my thought as well. Hillary has already proven herself to be unable or unwilling to properly handle classified information.

 

[Casper]

You can say that until the cows come home but it changes nothing. Election day is all that matters. We'll see. So far my horse has won twice in a row and up for a third win.

Your horse won what twice in a row? I assume Trump is your horse, the only thing he won was the GOP nomination, big difference from winning the election. I have no horse in the race, I do not belong to a Party, my only concern is for the Nation, and with that neither candidate will be good for the Nation.

 

[Josie]

Very well said. Thank you.

I just think he's a colossal jerk

Me too. And I think Hillary is a colossal hag, liar and law breaker.

 

[FluffyNinja]

The fool is easily riled up, his reactions are knee-jerk, and he generally spouts off at the mouth like a 5th grader in a "yo mamma" cut-down competition. So, yeah......there's that. Gonna have to vote "not trust".

 

[jet57]

Me too. And I think Hillary is a colossal hag, liar and law breaker.

Yeah I don't think she's all that great. She's not Trump, so she gets my vote. As I said before, she'll do alright with classified material for sure, but I don't trust her with the social issues she's yelling about. If she gets a super majority then we may seem some action, but short of that, shes just going to occupy the chair like Obama is.

Trump doesn't have the juice nor the wherewithal to be president. He'll never get a super majority, congress will therefore strangle him, and all he'll have to work with is foreign policy and the rest of the world can't stand him. I just see him losing his temper at least twice a day and acting like the jerk that he is.

 

[jimbo]

The point is that whether he is elected or not, either way we can expect him to use his clearance to assist him in business and harm people who have offended him.
He is also most definitely petty enough to view America as the enemy after being defeated. God only know what he is capable of.

The man is completely bankrupt of morals. I sincerely would trust just about any criminal with the clearance before I would trust that criminal.

If Trump is not elected, he will not have a security clearance. How will he use his non clearance to assist him in business or harm people who have offended him?

If I were a Clinton supporter, I would not toss bankrupt of morals around. Lest someone point out the other candidates morals, including her being the only candidate ever to violate the rules of handling classified materiels.

Then there's petty. Hillary and Bill have skirted the law for 30 years using their influence first as governor then as highly placed federal employees. They have had their hand slapped only once. Care to guess when? If you guessed when they stole White House furniture when their lease was up you would be correct.

 

[FluffyNinja]

If Trump is not elected, he will not have a security clearance. How will he use his non clearance to assist him in business or harm people who have offended him?

If I were a Clinton supporter, I would not toss bankrupt of morals around. Lest someone point out the other candidates morals, including her being the only candidate ever to violate the rules of handling classified materiels.

Then there's petty. Hillary and Bill have skirted the law for 30 years using their influence first as governor then as highly placed federal employees. They have had their hand slapped only once. Care to guess when? If you guessed when they stole White House furniture when their lease was up you would be correct.

So Hillary is a liar? One of the worst to seek the office? You buy that nonsense?

 

[Logicman]

Exactly my thought as well. Hillary has already proven herself to be unable or unwilling to properly handle classified information.

Amen to that.

 

[FluffyNinja]

Truman lied about dropping the A-bomb on a "military base" in Hiroshima.

LBJ lied about an "unprovoked" attack on a US warship in the Gulf of Tonkin (58,000+ US soldiers died in 'Nam in the subsequent years).

JFK lied about the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Reagan lied about selling weapons to the Iranians (an anti-American criminal state).

Nixon lied about US infiltration into and bombing in Cambodia (triggering violent and deadly protests in the US).

In the 1840's Polk lied to the people saying "Mexico has shed American blood on US soil" (thereby getting us into the Mexican War).

Teddy Roosevelt lied about starting a revolution in Panama.

FDR lied about an "unprovoked" German attack on the US Greer.

Heck, Lincoln even suspended habeas corpus (no trial, for the civically challenged) and ordered the largest mass execution in US history....

And yep, we still trusted all of these guys with presidential clearance! I recently posted this list in another thread. I could extend it greatly, however, these were just the incidents which came to mind first. I guess all of the above simply get a pass for their lies and abuses of powers?

I AM NO HILLARY SUPPORTER, but what I can tolerate less than Hillary, is intellectual dishonesty and those who ignore history just to garner votes or support or simply for political expediency. Are some of you still going to sit there and stick to the claim that she's the "most corrupt candidate" and "worst liar that's ever sought the office of POTUS"?

 

[antiquity]

Truman lied about dropping the A-bomb on a "military base" in Hiroshima.

LBJ lied about an "unprovoked" attack on a US warship in the Gulf of Tonkin (58,000+ US soldiers died in 'Nam in the subsequent years).

JFK lied about the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Reagan lied about selling weapons to the Iranians (an anti-American criminal state).

Nixon lied about US infiltration into and bombing in Cambodia (triggering violent and deadly protests in the US).

In the 1840's Polk lied to the people saying "Mexico has shed American blood on US soil" (thereby getting us into the Mexican War).

Teddy Roosevelt lied about starting a revolution in Panama.

FDR lied about an "unprovoked" German attack on the US Greer.

Heck, Lincoln even suspended habeas corpus (no trial, for the civically challenged) and ordered the largest mass execution in US history....

And yep, we still trusted all of these guys with presidential clearance! I recently posted this list in another thread. I could extend it greatly, however, these were just the incidents which came to mind first. I guess all of the above simply get a pass for their lies and abuses of powers?

I AM NO HILLARY SUPPORTER, but what I can tolerate less than Hillary, is intellectual dishonesty and those who ignore history just to garner votes or support or simply for political expediency. Are some of you still going to sit there and stick to the claim that she's the "most corrupt candidate" and "worst liar that's ever sought the office of POTUS"?

What exactly has any of the above have to do with the price of tea in China? Maybe you are thinking all those wrongs justify the Queen of Corruption's actions.

Kind of like two wrongs make a right. They did it so it is okay. sort of things.

And yes by all means to me her dishonesty is a very good reason not to support her and her lying arse.

 

[FluffyNinja]

What exactly has any of the above have to do with the price of tea in China? Maybe you are thinking all those wrongs justify the Queen of Corruption's actions.

Kind of like two wrongs make a right. They did it so it is okay. sort of things.

And yes by all means to me her dishonesty is a very good reason not to support her and her lying arse.

At this point I will just assume you didn't read this last part of my post.

"I AM NO HILLARY SUPPORTER, but what I can tolerate less than Hillary, is intellectual dishonesty and those who ignore history just to garner votes or support or simply for political expediency. Are some of you still going to sit there and stick to the claim that she's the "most corrupt candidate" and "worst liar that's ever sought the office of POTUS"?"

 

[antiquity]

So Hillary is a liar? One of the worst to seek the office? You buy that nonsense?

I would rate Hillary right up there with LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lie that escalated the Vietnam war costing 58K lives.

It not the severity of her lies but the accumulated list that that points to my conclusion. You know lying under oath before Congress about her not receiving or sending classified email on her private server when we now know she did. That in itself is a crime.

 

[antiquity]

At this point I will just assume you didn't read this last part of my post.

I did and stand by my post. If you are no supporter of Hillary why do defend her actions and blast people who point out her flaws.

 

[FluffyNinja]

I would rate Hillary right up there with LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lie that escalated the Vietnam war costing 58K lives.

It not the severity of her lies but the accumulated list that that points to my conclusion. You know lying under oath before Congress about her not receiving or sending classified email on her private server when we now know she did. That in itself is a crime.

My point is that we conveniently ignore or distort history in order to discredit candidates we don't like. The FACT is ALL of the lies and abuses committed by the Presidents listed above were WORSE than Hillary's alleged violations and you and anyone else who looks at it rationally should know it!

The next point is, many of those guys in the list were deemed heroes by the American people and almost all ere given a "pass" for their actions. Why?