how much will the Big Beautiful Bill save you every year ?

[Greenbeard]

what did Biden give me ?

nothing - no tax reductions, only high inflation quarter after quarter

Paying your taxes at some point might be a nice gift for you to give subsequent generations.

 

[Citizen]

if someone is on Medicare and working OT and going to Dr 2-3 times a month yes I suppose so yes

LOL, no one on MEDICARE is working OT

 

[Gaius46]

Not a dime. It'll likely cost me more. It'll
likely cost everyone more. There is
no such thing as a free ride.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Biden handed off the fastest growing economy in the world, the lowest unemployment in decades, and he brought inflation down below 3%. Trump has already increased inflation and our GDP growth is NEGATIVE. He is already a failure by all measures and spent $200 billion more in his 1st 100 days than last year under Biden.

Inflation-adjusted data from the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics would suggest that per term, Republican presidents have added slightly more debt to the U.S. national debt than Democratic presidents. Looking at U.S. presidents from 1913 through the end of the federal fiscal year 2024, Republican presidents added about $1.4 trillion per four-year term, compared to $1.2 trillion added by Democrats.

https://www.investopedia.com/democrats-vs-republicans-who-had-more-national-debt-8738104

excuses excuses

 

[hecatmoggie]

LOL The 1% have had the biggest windfall in the history of the world mostly due to low taxes. You are being played and your children will pay for it. Wise up.

Richest 1% bag nearly twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together over the past two years​

Published: 16th January 2023

• Super-rich outstrip their extraordinary grab of half of all new wealth in past decade.
• Billionaire fortunes are increasing by $2.7 billion a day even as at least 1.7 billion workers now live in countries where inflation is outpacing wages.
• A tax of up to 5 percent on the world’s multi-millionaires and billionaires could raise $1.7 trillion a year, enough to lift 2 billion people out of poverty.

The richest 1 percent grabbed nearly two-thirds of all new wealth worth $42 trillion created since 2020, almost twice as much money as the bottom 99 percent of the world’s population, reveals a new Oxfam report today. During the past decade, the richest 1 percent had captured around half of all new wealth.

“Survival of the Richest” is published on the opening day of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Elites are gathering in the Swiss ski resort as extreme wealth and extreme poverty have increased simultaneously for the first time in 25 years.

“While ordinary people are making daily sacrifices on essentials like food, the super-rich have outdone even their wildest dreams. Just two years in, this decade is shaping up to be the best yet for billionaires —a roaring ‘20s boom for the world’s richest,” said Gabriela Bucher, Executive Director of Oxfam International.

“Taxing the super-rich and big corporations is the door out of today’s overlapping crises. It’s time we demolish the convenient myth that tax cuts for the richest result in their wealth somehow ‘trickling down’ to everyone else. Forty years of tax cuts for the super-rich have shown that a rising tide doesn’t lift all ships —just the superyachts.”

Billionaires have seen extraordinary increases in their wealth. During the pandemic and cost-of-living crisis years since 2020, $26 trillion (63 percent) of all new wealth was captured by the richest 1 percent, while $16 trillion (37 percent) went to the rest of the world put together. A billionaire gained roughly $1.7 million for every $1 of new global wealth earned by a person in the bottom 90 percent. Billionaire fortunes have increased by $2.7 billion a day. This comes on top of a decade of historic gains —the number and wealth of billionaires having doubled over the last ten years.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-rele...h-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years

its simple

about $2.4 trillion comes in from income taxes - what % do poor people pay of that and what % of that does rich pay? or just give number, either way

can you do that? or do you even care ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Righties are so bad at economics, they don’t understand how inflation works (1T today isn’t the same as 1T in 2006)

Bush and Trump added more to the debt than Biden Obama.

Trump outspend and added more to the debt than Biden. Bush outspend and added more to the debt than Obama.

ok I'm going to call the bolded a flat out fallacy/inaccuracy/dishonest statement unless you can show me different

I gave you one of many links showing how much each president added

be a good debater and show me your link and numbers that prove mine wrong

if you can't then just admit you're spreading false information

 

[hecatmoggie]

A booming economy that was the envy of the world, record high stock market, full employment, no wars.

Yep. Bush/trump.

on Biden (since liberals cannot remember 3-4 years ago)

(thank you Joe Biden for some incredible inflation)

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/05/us-monthly-inflation-rate-chart/

 

[hecatmoggie]

That’s irrelevant.

LOL


it sucks to see how much Democrat Presidents have added .... doesn't it ?

but ya'll play the blame game well .... NEVER accept responsibility for anything, that's Democrat Party 101

 

[hecatmoggie]

Paying your taxes at some point might be a nice gift for you to give subsequent generations.

I've always paid my taxes

I hate them all when I see our Fed Govt spending $37 trillion more than they have to spend

Its so over the top ridiculous at this point its not even funny. Eliminate incomes taxes, run the national debt to $100 trillion

it doesn't matter anymore

 

[Peter]

When have Republicans ever actually done anything about the debt or deficit?

 

[Greenbeard]

I've always paid my taxes

Your posts make clear you've always looked for more benefits for yourself along with lower taxes. The Boomer story in a nutshell, which is why we've been running deficits for half a century.

 

[HumblePi]

My link is the IRS.

So you have the definition right there, right?

 

[rahl]

ok I'm going to call the bolded a flat out fallacy/inaccuracy/dishonest statement unless you can show me different

We have the actual data lol

I gave you one of many links showing how much each president added

And because you are a Republican, you don’t understand economics or inflation. 1T in 2025 isn’t the same as 1T in 2006.

be a good debater and show me your link and numbers that prove mine wrong

if you can't then just admit you're spreading false information

 

[rahl]

on Biden (since liberals cannot remember 3-4 years ago)

(thank you Joe Biden for some incredible inflation)

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https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/05/us-monthly-inflation-rate-chart/

According to righties, Joe Biden was simultaneously incompetent, couldn’t tie his own shoes, but somehow masterminded GLOBAL inflation

 

[hecatmoggie]

Your posts make clear you've always looked for more benefits for yourself along with lower taxes.

Do you send extra money to the Fed Govt every year ? yeah - me either, you and I and everyone on this forum wants our hard earned money when we see in the daily news how its so grossly wasted

$37 trillion overspent FYI

The Boomer story in a nutshell, which is why we've been running deficits for half a century.

do you think adding $2 trillion in taxes each year this Fed Govt wouldn't spend that $2 trillion and probably even more? Show me anytime in the last 20 years our Fed Govt has spent less and less to try and fix this national debt issue

 

[hecatmoggie]

We have the actual data lol

no you don't, I showed you links/graphs

you're shown nothing

And because you are a Republican, you don’t understand economics or inflation. 1T in 2025 isn’t the same as 1T in 2006.

me ?

you're the one that thinks 16 trillion is less than 12 trillion




GW 4.2 and Trump 1.0 was 7.8 equals around 12 Trillion right ?

Obama was 7.6 and Biden 8.4 which is around 16 Trillion right ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

According to righties, Joe Biden was simultaneously incompetent, couldn’t tie his own shoes, but somehow masterminded GLOBAL inflation

he was the President

he's responsible for those 4 years that was his administration

excuses for Biden is all the left can ever do - he was that bad

 

[rahl]

no you don't, I showed you links/graphs

you're shown nothing

me ?

you're the one that thinks 16 trillion is less than 12 trillion




GW 4.2 and Trump 1.0 was 7.8 equals around 12 Trillion right ?

Obama was 7.6 and Biden 8.4 which is around 16 Trillion right ?


View attachment 67578525

Raw numbers

 

[rahl]

he was the President

And handled inflation better than any other nation.

he's responsible for those 4 years that was his administration

For handling inflation better than any other nation, I agree.

excuses for Biden is all the left can ever do - he was that bad

By handling inflation better than any other nation, and presiding over a booming economy with full employment, soaring GDP, wage growth and job creation?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Raw numbers

yes, its called national debt

And handled inflation better than any other nation.
For handling inflation better than any other nation, I agree.
By handling inflation better than any other nation, and presiding over a booming economy with full employment, soaring GDP, wage growth and job creation?

don't liberals believe in blaming the President before for everything ?

 

[AliHajiSheik]

So you have the definition right there, right?

I didn’t ask for the current definition, that’s why I included it in my first post. Sorry you didn’t notice it.

 

[George50]

LOL


it sucks to see how much Democrat Presidents have added .... doesn't it ?

but ya'll play the blame game well .... NEVER accept responsibility for anything, that's Democrat Party 101

You don’t understand what responsibility means.

 

[George50]

no you don't, I showed you links/graphs

you're shown nothing

me ?

you're the one that thinks 16 trillion is less than 12 trillion




GW 4.2 and Trump 1.0 was 7.8 equals around 12 Trillion right ?

Obama was 7.6 and Biden 8.4 which is around 16 Trillion right ?


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Again, irrelevant. What matters is what each president approved. That is what they are responsible for, not what previous presidents have approved. You don’t understand government or responsibility.

 

[George50]

Who knows if these people know what the hell they are talking about.
Or if this is just performative politics on their part?

What makes you think that the CEO of the Hospital who ran the clinic doesn’t know what he is talking about?

“Unfortunately, the current financial environment, driven by anticipated federal budget cuts to Medicaid, has made it impossible for us to continue operating all of our services, many of which have faced significant financial challenges for years,” Community Hospital CEO Troy Bruntz said in a statement.

Did you even read the article?

Given that the bill was signed in to law just today, what a coincidence they announce this on the same day.
This 'coincidence' sure give more credence that it is likely performative on their part.

Wrong again. The story was not posted the day you wrote your post.

Nothing has even happened yet, beyond the signing of the bill into law.

What’s your point? The Hospital administration can read the bill and they know what the impact is on their business.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Again, irrelevant. What matters is what each president approved. That is what they are responsible for, not what previous presidents have approved. You don’t understand government or responsibility.

blame someone else

ok - Biden is to blame for all of Trump's administration issues and Obama in Trump 1.0

there - easy


you're making excuses because the Democrat presidents added Trillions more in national debt than Republican's did - 100% FACT