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how much will the Big Beautiful Bill save you every year ?

Using this calculator - how much will ya'll save every year ?


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just giving you hard truths and facts


you no any other liberals can show any evidence at all that the lower income people of the US pay the bulk of the taxes - do you know why ?

because they don't - the wealthy do
LOL The wealthy pay because they can afford to pay and that is the only "fair" way to levy taxes. When they pay less we put more debt on our credit card and give the money to them instead. That makes sense to you?
 
just say that fair share = paying everything and more so people can get free stuff

at least that's honest
LOL Most Americans just want to pay their bills and get through the month. They would all love to be able to afford to pay income tax. They still pay property taxes, sales taxes and many other regressive fees to the Govt. They don't want or get "free stuff".
 
you are in favor of no accountability and drunkard spending - clearly - and when this Fed Govt overspends by $37 trillion you think the spending is a taxation issue


its fascinating - I'm curious how much money do you send to the Fed Govt every year ? you think we should all pay more taxes, I assume your'e sending more on your own ?
We're a big country, one of the wealthiest in the world, and should be able to take care that every single citizen should have the inalienable rights to basic healthcare and food. Not everyone is paying a fair share. Our tax code favors the wealthiest Americans. There's a vast wealth inequality in this country as far as income tax goes. The top 10% of the wealthiest own a majority of the nation's wealth, while the bottom 50% own very little. The richest 1 percent of Americans own 50 percent of U.S. stock and mutual funds. As a matter of fact, the United States has more Inequality and disparities of wealth between rich and poor than any other major developed nation. And, the wealthiest of the wealthy will get even wealthier because the tax breaks given to them by Trump do not expire.
 
LOL The wealthy pay because they can afford to pay and that is the only "fair" way to levy taxes
just acknowledge they pay way more than their "fair share"

When they pay less we put more debt on our credit card
their taxation has NOTHING to do with you spending money on a credit card

and give the money to them instead. That makes sense to you?
bologna



the truth is, the US Fed Govt has brought in more money each year and every year for the past 25 years in taxations

AND

they're used all that money and spent $25 Trillion more they they brought in

if you cannot understand that's a spending problem then I cannot help you
 
LOL Most Americans just want to pay their bills and get through the month.
just spend 30% more than you bring in - isn't that what the US Fed Govt does ?

They would all love to be able to afford to pay income tax.
its the USA - you want money? go earn it

They still pay property taxes, sales taxes and many other regressive fees to the Govt. They don't want or get "free stuff".

they do and since they don't have much? the rich STILL pay the majority of it all don't they ?

yes - poor people don't pay income taxes or taxes at all much .... and they still use the same great social systems than every American does because the rich pay for it all to be there
 
We're a big country, one of the wealthiest in the world, and should be able to take care that every single citizen should have the inalienable rights to basic healthcare and food.
we could but the money is all spent on many many other things

Not everyone is paying a fair share.
true - lower income pay almost nothing

Our tax code favors the wealthiest Americans
the tax codes are for EVERYONE - use them, they're there

. There's a vast wealth inequality in this country as far as income tax goes.
you're right - poor people pay nothing in income taxes

The top 10% of the wealthiest own a majority of the nation's wealth, while the bottom 50% own very little.
they earned that wealth, yes


The richest 1 percent of Americans own 50 percent of U.S. stock and mutual funds
true - now, can you go buy stock? right now - is it available to you to do that ? then GO DO IT its equal and fair to everyone

. As a matter of fact, the United States has more Inequality and disparities of wealth between rich and poor than any other major developed nation. And, the wealthiest of the wealthy will get even wealthier because the tax breaks given to them by Trump do not expire.

the tax breaks should be for everybody - especially those who pay the most in taxes

that's just common sense
 
just spend 30% more than you bring in - isn't that what the US Fed Govt does ?


its the USA - you want money? go earn it



they do and since they don't have much? the rich STILL pay the majority of it all don't they ?

yes - poor people don't pay income taxes or taxes at all much .... and they still use the same great social systems than every American does because the rich pay for it all to be there
Yes and we don't need all those "poor" people one bit either do we? The rich make their money by growing it on trees in your feeble mind.
Really the rich get most of their money by taking it from the "poor" and without them to buy their goods or services there would be no rich people at all.
 
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we could but the money is all spent on many many other things


true - lower income pay almost nothing


the tax codes are for EVERYONE - use them, they're there


you're right - poor people pay nothing in income taxes


they earned that wealth, yes



true - now, can you go buy stock? right now - is it available to you to do that ? then GO DO IT its equal and fair to everyone



the tax breaks should be for everybody - especially those who pay the most in taxes

that's just common sense
You have no common sense or you would know that going into debt or taking away programs for the less fortunate so we can give more money to those that have more than they can ever spend is pure insanity.
 
we could but the money is all spent on many many other things


true - lower income pay almost nothing


the tax codes are for EVERYONE - use them, they're there


you're right - poor people pay nothing in income taxes


they earned that wealth, yes



true - now, can you go buy stock? right now - is it available to you to do that ? then GO DO IT its equal and fair to everyone



the tax breaks should be for everybody - especially those who pay the most in taxes

that's just common sense
Yes, it was being spent on many things that were essential to life for many people in Sudan like life-saving medication’s for HIV and food. Now it’s being spent for Trump’s rallies and for $400 million to upgrade the fancy jet Trump just got as a gift from Qatar. Talk about pork spending, that one actually oinks.
 
Yes, it was being spent on many things that were essential to life for many people in Sudan like life-saving medication’s for HIV and food. Now it’s being spent for Trump’s rallies and for $400 million to upgrade the fancy jet Trump just got as a gift from Qatar. Talk about pork spending, that one actually oinks.
It's more like $1.5 Billion to upgrade that jet to Presidential standards and will take YEARS. Money is no object for Trump and remember that he will be gifted the plane if he ever leaves office.

If the Qatari plane is retrofitted to presidential standards, it could cost $1.5 billion and take years, according to a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details that aren’t publicly available.

Testifying before Congress this week, Meink discounted such estimates, arguing that some of the costs associated with retrofitting the Qatari plane would have been spent anyway as the Air Force moves to build the long-delayed new presidential planes, including buying aircraft for training and to have spares available if needed.

In response, Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., said that based on the contract costs for the planes that the Air Force is building, it would cost about $1 billion to strip down the Qatar plane, install encrypted communications, harden its defenses and make other required upgrades.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-qa...ty-questions-8498cc3d222fd7864c3dd2c9c97d7e69
 
1000 @ $2.40 and I'm not

remember Biden and $4-$5.50 gas and no breaks ?

I do
$2.40?
It’s $3.20 where I’m at.
Oh, you expect lower prices under Trump.
He said $1.98 in some places. No one ever found it. Lying again.
 
Your belief that a bandaid is all those hospitals need to treat the gaping wound the bill creates in their funding is laughable an so so typical. Half assed "fixes" for the humongous problems that you create is not "winning".

The new analysis highlights that the $25 billion fund falls short of what is needed. Even if every single dollar of the new fund went exclusively to rural hospitals, it would not fill even half of the gap in funding created by the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA). More specifically, the OBBBA generates $58 billion in Medicaid cuts over the next ten years for rural hospitals. But the rural transformation fund is limited to $25 billion over this time period, which is only 43 percent of previous funding levels (if all the funds were to go to rural hospitals). Many of America’s states with large rural populations would fare especially poorly under the fund. Manatt’s estimates show that southern and mid-western states with sizable rural populations that have expanded Medicaid face the largest remaining gaps.
Reductions in Medicaid funding of this magnitude would likely accelerate rural hospital closures and reduce access to care for rural residents, exacerbating economic hardship in communities where hospitals are major employers. A state-by-state analysis of the impacts can be found here.

“We appreciate the recognition of Senate leadership regarding of the plight of rural hospitals and of the significant impacts the reconciliation package may have on rural health care. However, the proposed Rural Health Transformation Fund by itself doesn't offset the cuts to Medicaid coverage. The changes to Medicaid will result in significant coverage losses, reduce access to care for rural patients, and threaten the viability of rural facilities,” said Alan Morgan, CEO of the National Rural Health Association.

https://www.ruralhealth.us/blogs/2025/06/federal-medicaid-cuts-imperil-rural-–-impacts-of-the-rural-transformation-fund
From another thread on the same topic.
Your notion of 'punish hundreds of thousands Medicaid users' is false, unless you are counting the Medicaid users who are:

“Yeah, but who does it cut Medicaid for? Illegal aliens, people who won’t get off grandma’s couch despite being able-bodied adults,” Jennings said.​
Hunt dived deeper into the issue and said the bill threatens rural hospitals, particularly those that need federal support.​
“It is a protection of the Social Security. I actually know too much about this because I used to be a health care policy reporter on Capitol Hill. So putting that hat on for a second, the people that are really going to suffer, and the reason this is a problem for Lisa Murkowski and Josh Hawley are the rural hospitals with emergency rooms into which people like that may walk, and if they don’t have Medicaid, they’re not getting any,” Hunt said. “That hospital is not getting any money from that person or from the federal government.​
Jennings remained unfazed and said the bill included specific provisions to safeguard rural hospitals.​
“Well, the Senate included a massive fund for rural hospitals. I think it was $50 billion, or do they wind up, I forget where they wind up, but a massive fund to cover just what you’re talking about,” Jennings said.​

I'm leaning more to Jennings' side on this.


Which isn't what's going on, so it isn't applicable. 🤷‍♂️
Seems like you are a victim of your own decision to buy into the left's false narratives, and now you are upset about it? 🤷‍♂️
Further:
Nothing new.
Lots of people claims lots of things which aren't true.
Lots of people make claims based on falsehoods to blame shift away from themselves, especially if they are being political.
 
It's more like $1.5 Billion to upgrade that jet to Presidential standards and will take YEARS. Money is no object for Trump and remember that he will be gifted the plane if he ever leaves office.

If the Qatari plane is retrofitted to presidential standards, it could cost $1.5 billion and take years, according to a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details that aren’t publicly available.

Testifying before Congress this week, Meink discounted such estimates, arguing that some of the costs associated with retrofitting the Qatari plane would have been spent anyway as the Air Force moves to build the long-delayed new presidential planes, including buying aircraft for training and to have spares available if needed.


In response, Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., said that based on the contract costs for the planes that the Air Force is building, it would cost about $1 billion to strip down the Qatar plane, install encrypted communications, harden its defenses and make other required upgrades.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-qa...ty-questions-8498cc3d222fd7864c3dd2c9c97d7e69
All the 'waste, fraud and abuse' is coming from right inside the White House.
 
I assume I get the same $60 a paycheck tax break as the last we spent trillions of dollars. I’d rather the country not take on giant sums of debt for a tax break that makes no difference in my life but the “fiscal conservatives” are in charge again and spending like drunken sailors. Again.
 
Yes and we don't need all those "poor" people one bit either do we?
not for getting $ from income taxes we don't

The rich make their money by growing it on trees in your feeble mind.
Really the rich get most of their money by taking it from the "poor" and without them to buy their goods or services there would be no rich people at all.

rich don't "take"

you're right - goods and services make the world go round ..... its not "taking" .... anymore so than the poor people are "giving" ............... well, except for taxes, right? and that literally IS taking
 
You have no common sense or you would know that going into debt or taking away programs for the less fortunate so we can give more money to those that have more than they can ever spend is pure insanity.

we're not GIVING them anything, its taking LESS

and me? I'm thankful for every dime less the Fed Govt takes from me, absolutely
 
Yes, it was being spent on many things that were essential to life for many people in Sudan like life-saving medication’s for HIV and food. Now it’s being spent for Trump’s rallies and for $400 million to upgrade the fancy jet Trump just got as a gift from Qatar. Talk about pork spending, that one actually oinks.

not our job to finance Sudan
 
$2.40?
It’s $3.20 where I’m at.
Oh, you expect lower prices under Trump.
He said $1.98 in some places. No one ever found it. Lying again.

locally I can get $2.59

I LOVE how liberals throw around the "lying" word .... do you think it improves your position to do that ?

I can't help it you live in a high gas prices state - that's your choice, not mine
 
not our job to finance Sudan

The United States has never 'financed' Sudan. That's a very uneducated statement. The US has provided significant humanitarian aid and has also supported peace efforts, including those leading to South Sudan's independence.
 
The United States has never 'financed' Sudan. That's a very uneducated statement. The US has provided significant humanitarian aid and has also supported peace efforts, including those leading to South Sudan's independence.

so we give them money and financed their independence

great - they can be independent of our $$$ too then, right ?
 
so we give them money and financed their independence

great - they can be independent of our $$$ too then, right ?
We do not "give them money". Prove what you claim, if you think you can.
 
We do not "give them money". Prove what you claim, if you think you can.

someone said "Yes, it was being spent on many things that were essential to life for many people in Sudan like life-saving medication’s for HIV and food. Now it’s being spent for Trump’s rallies and for $400 million to upgrade the fancy jet Trump just got as a gift from Qatar. Talk about pork spending, that one actually oinks."

you're saying they were lying ?



now, a little googling and you will find

The United States Announces $95 Million in Additional Humanitarian Assistance for South Sudan
By U.S. Embassy Juba
3 MINUTE READ

August 12, 2024

 
On overtime / tips etc ?

Using this calculator - how much will ya'll save every year ?

Too many variables to consider seeing as we don't know how the economy is going to do.
 
someone said "Yes, it was being spent on many things that were essential to life for many people in Sudan like life-saving medication’s for HIV and food. Now it’s being spent for Trump’s rallies and for $400 million to upgrade the fancy jet Trump just got as a gift from Qatar. Talk about pork spending, that one actually oinks."

you're saying they were lying ?



now, a little googling and you will find

The United States Announces $95 Million in Additional Humanitarian Assistance for South Sudan
By U.S. Embassy Juba
3 MINUTE READ

August 12, 2024

Do you understand what the difference is between direct support to a government, and direct aid and support to humanitarian causes? Do you get that? When it existed, USAID provided over $2 billion in humanitarian assistance to Sudan and neighboring countries. The next question is, do you have any understanding of exactly what 'humanitarian relief' actually is? I don't think you do. Humanitarian aid is provided to save lives, alleviate suffering, and protect human dignity. This means providing food, water, shelter, and medical care and essential medicines.
 
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