how much will the Big Beautiful Bill save you every year ?

[Cassandra]

I made this post on another site where the discuss turned into Republicans promoting a bill that will end their political careers:

Are some of you saying that voters in the midterm will vote against a party and president who:

• Are you thinking that people who make tips will vote against the president who enabled them to keep those tips without taxes?
• Are some of you thinking that people who work overtime will vote against the president who enabled them to make that money and not be penalized with higher taxes?
• Are some of you thinking that senior citizens will vote against someone who will give them a $4,000 deduction on their Social Security payment? This one might be a problem since Trump ran on discontinuing taxes on Social Security, but still, this deduction is something that Democrats did not give them.
• Are some of you saying that voters who get the SALT benefit will vote against someone who raised their SALT benefit from $10,000 to $30,000?
• Are some of you thinking that people will be upset that some people who get food assistance have to do something to earn that assistance? (Not me!) Note -- The SNAP program will become more dependent upon states to fund.
• Are some of you saying that the general public will be upset that funding for Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS will be cut? Not the people I know.
• Are you saying that Americans will be upset that the government will establish a $1,000 investment contribution for children?
• Are some of you saying that Americans are upset with the deportations of criminals?
• Are some of you saying that Americans will be upset with a 21% tax on university endowments to help fund student loans?

I am thinking that when the propaganda lies of the left subside as this legislation is enacted, Americans in general are really going to like Trump and the Republican Party.

Of course, an aspect of the GOP strategy is to displace necessary services to the state level so that states have to RAISE TAXES to fund needed programs.

Well, maybe that would be an acceptable trade-off if the Federal government reduced spending on bloated wasteful programs like the military budget and tax cuts for the wealthy, but no its like a religion for them- always cut taxes for the wealthy and raise spending on D.O.D.
Con the U.S. working class with a bit of bread and circus while the 1% make off with all that they can.

 

[StillBallin75]

Lol waging outright class war by kicking millions of Medicare, doing stupid tarriffs that are essentially the equivalent of self-sanctions, massively expanding the ICE Gestapo, while simultaneously exploding the deficit by giving massive tax breaks to billionaires, then crying BUT No TAX ON TIPS

Is like shooting someone in the chest with a Desert Eagle 50AE and then pretending to render aid by patching up the massive chest wound you just created.

 

[hecatmoggie]

No way of knowing that you earn a living, let alone will receive tax relief. I guess it’s all just a guessing game.

ok then just say "I'm guessing" vs posting stuff as factual

that makes sense

 

[hecatmoggie]

By raisong the debt, for one. And cutting programs that cost but save money in the long run.

It is the epitome of penny wise and pound foolish.

ok then did for 8 years Obama and another 4 years Biden "raising debt" matter to you ?

no, and not to Democrats and not to Republicans either - raising debt has become irrelevant

the bold is an opinion

 

[BirdinHand]

Only those who are not qualified to receive healthcare will lose care

Wrong.

I pointed out that the middle class will benefit the most

Wrong.

 

[hecatmoggie]

LOL
$286 for the year is 'pretty good' in your eyes?
It seems you are a cheap bribe to ignore the real damage.
The 2017 Trump tax cut was a joke and this new Big Bullshit Big is that on steroids.
Do I expect the Trump minions to praise it blindly?
Of course, that is what minions do.

what was the big Democrat tax cuts bill ? I can't remember .... oh, yeah ... maybe they never had one ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

It isn't going to happen.

Stop believing the lies.

you think the BBB won't pass then ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

You want to argue that a trillion in interest payments does not matter? That interest rates don't matter?
Dang. High Schools really should teach financial literacy.

12 of last 16 years of national debt additions were Democrat Presidents .... liberals never cared about national debt then

and with this bill? and the Trump 1.0 Presidency ? we can now agree none of them care about national debt

run it to $100 trillion, doesn't matter

 

[The Brad Dad]

what was the big Democrat tax cuts bill ? I can't remember .... oh, yeah ... maybe they never had one ?

Correct, Dems don’t actively try to **** over working class Americans.

 

[BirdinHand]

12 of last 16 years of national debt additions were Democrat Presidents .... liberals never cared about national debt then

and with this bill? and the Trump 1.0 Presidency ? we can now agree none of them care about national debt

run it to $100 trillion, doesn't matter

Excellent.

Next time the Democrats have power, we will remember that.

Enjoy your $2400.

Some of us aren’t such each marks for bribes and have actual integrity.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Correct, Dems don’t actively try to **** over working class Americans.

tax cuts = **** over Americans

I guessing taxing me $5000 more a year would be a blessing and a bonus ? lol

 

[The Brad Dad]

tax cuts = **** over Americans

I guessing taxing me $5000 more a year would be a blessing and a bonus ? lol

You’re so close.

This isn’t the United States of You. Don’t give a flying car about you.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Excellent.

Next time the Democrats have power, we will remember that.

Enjoy your $2400.

Some of us aren’t such each marks for bribes and have actual integrity.

are liberals/Democrats so upset that they'll send all their extra money to the Fed Govt ?

no - never ..... talk the talk, but you'll keep all the money you'll get from tax cuts too, won't you ? and so will all the rich Democrats

remember

 

[Hamish Howl]

I doubt it.

Have you considered the idea that it's not actually Jesus that you're worshiping?

Because your attitudes seem more likely inspired by Baal Hammon.

 

[BirdinHand]

liberals/Democrats so upset that they'll send all their extra money to the Fed Govt

Nah - in fact, I’ll have our tax guy find a way to send as little of our money to this federal government as possible. And to delay sending any money as long as possible

We aren’t W2 employees, there is no payroll withholding. Uncle Sam and Trump’s administration will wait as long as we can until they get any money from us

 

[Crunchtime]

Have you considered the idea that it's not actually Jesus that you're worshiping?

Because your attitudes seem more likely inspired by Baal Hammon.

Name calling is all you got. You’re empty otherwise.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Name calling is all you got. You’re empty otherwise.

I didn't call you any names.

 

[Crunchtime]

Nah - in fact, I’ll have our tax guy find a way to send as little of our money to this federal government as possible. And to delay sending any money as long as possible

We aren’t W2 employees, there is no payroll withholding. Uncle Sam and Trump’s administration will wait as long as we can until they get any money from us

That’s a patriot for you. Not surprised. It’s all about ideology and not the country.

 

[Slartibartfast]

That’s a patriot for you. Not surprised. It’s all about ideology and not the country.

Patriotism should always be conditional in support of a moral government and culture. Otherwise it’s blind.

 

[Crunchtime]

I didn't call you any names.

Get a job. It will keep you out of trouble.

 

[Crunchtime]

Patriotism should always be conditional in support of a moral government and culture. Otherwise it’s blind.

And you’re saying what? That this government is immoral but the previous government wasn’t? That the American culture is somehow less moral than other cultures? Only just recently?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Nah - in fact, I’ll have our tax guy find a way to send as little of our money to this federal government as possible. And to delay sending any money as long as possible

like everyone does, I agree

We aren’t W2 employees, there is no payroll withholding. Uncle Sam and Trump’s administration will wait as long as we can until they get any money from us

I'd do the same if I could


see? you don't give the US Fed Govt any more money than you have to ... its odd you vote Democrat who wants to take more of your money and bash Republican's for taking less

 

[Slartibartfast]

And you’re saying what? That this government is immoral but the previous government wasn’t?

Yes

That the American culture is somehow less moral than other cultures? Only just recently?

Yes, since Nov 2023 when society decided to go with fascism.

 

[BabaVoss]

Trump's big ugly steaming pile of a bill will cost all Americans a great deal.

 

[Crunchtime]

Yes

Yes, since Nov 2023 when society decided to go with fascism.

Yes

Yes, since Nov 2023 when society decided to go with fascism.

That says a lot about you. You should Ellen in the UK or Rosy in Ireland. See ya