How many people did you lose to Covid?

[OrphanSlug]

4, none immediately close but distant relatives of mine or my girlfriend's.

 

[CaughtInThe]

the OP missed the boat. he should have included vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Simple question. Let's only count people you were fairly close to.... family, friends, long-term acquaintances, neighbor you saw regularly, that sort of thing. Not your brother-in-law's co-worker that you met once several years ago.

I lost three that hurt. There were five others that I sorta-kinda knew, but I'm not going to count them... just the ones whose loss was somewhat personal to me .

TIA for your participation. Poll is private.

I listed zero as nobody I am related to or are otherwise close to died, though some had it twice, and a 90 year old uncle had it three times. I did have a telecom vendor colleague I worked with on several projects who did die from Covid. I have as of yet, not been infected.

 

[Goshin]

My brother died (without covid) because of the pandemic. Most area hospitals were over run. He had a surgical emergency that was diagnosed within 30 minutes of arrival to ER, but because of the local major facilities were over run with covid.....the hospital he was sent to did not have the capacity for immediate surgery. The surgeon arrived too late for surgery to matter.

Man, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear it.

I had (scheduled) heart surgery during the worst surge (Jan 21). My cardiologist listed it as essential, and the county hospital has a heart specialist center. Otherwise the entire rest of the hospital was packed with Covid patients. Even so they almost canceled on me.

Good thing they didn't. I was told afterward that my aorta valve was in extremely bad condition, and I probably wouldn't have lived much longer without the surgery.

 

[Grand Mal]

A quick Google says that's not actually correct, with a ton of articles on why. This is one of the better explanations... physicians often list details of cause of death on the death certificate, included specific effects caused by the disease. That doesn't mean the person didn't die as a direct result of Covid... just that the physician wrote a detailed death cert.


https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/cdc-6-percent-covid-deaths

Another article:

"But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email."

And then add in that most Americans have some sort of "comorbidity", like being overweight at a minimum, and many people have some condition they are not even aware of that could be counted as contributing factors.

I knew a 26yo with no previous health issues who nearly died of Covid: the blood effects caused him to have a massive heart attack of the sort few survive. If he'd died the cause of death would have been cardiac arrest resulting from Covid effects, even though he had no prior history of heart issues.

Tommy Lasorda's son died of AIDS but Tommy will deny it and point to the line on the death certificate that says 'pneumonia'.

 

[Grand Mal]

Nobody I know died of it. Everyone I know who got it were fairly young, though. Young to me, anyway, in my sons generation.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Tommy Lasorda's son died of AIDS but Tommy will deny it and point to the line on the deaath certificate that says 'pneumonia'.

Tommy Lasorda would have a hard time making such a claim as Tommy Lasorda himself passed away in January of last year.

 

[Grand Mal]

Tommy Lasorda would have a hard time making such a claim as Tommy Lasorda himself passed away in January of last year.

Oops.
It was awhile ago when I read that.

The Tragedy of Baseball Icon Tommy Lasorda and His Gay Son Lost to AIDS

Dodgers manager Lasorda “exemplified the horrendous personal struggle gays and their families faced during the AIDS crisis.”

www.poz.com

"Lasorda was enraged when it was widely reported that his son had died of complications of AIDS. Lasorda insisted his son wasn’t gay, though the younger Lasorda’s friends said otherwise.”

 

[KevinKohler]

Zero.

I heard of people, friends of friends, sorta thing. But no one I personally knew. So far.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Oops.
It was awhile ago when I read that.

The Tragedy of Baseball Icon Tommy Lasorda and His Gay Son Lost to AIDS

Dodgers manager Lasorda “exemplified the horrendous personal struggle gays and their families faced during the AIDS crisis.”

www.poz.com

"Lasorda was enraged when it was widely reported that his son had died of complications of AIDS. Lasorda insisted his son wasn’t gay, though the younger Lasorda’s friends said otherwise.”

I have to claim ignorance in regards to his son. I was a big L.A. Dodger fan when Lasorda managed the team. but was never aware or knowledgeable about his children.

 

[Grand Mal]

I have to claim ignorance in regards to his son. I was a big L.A. Dodger fan when Lasorda managed the team. but was never aware or knowledgeable about his children.

He was pretty flamboyantly gay. It was probably ignored by the press to spare Tommy Sr. the embarrassment, macho sports guy and Italian male and all. The news media wasnt always as predatory as they are now.
If you go to that link and scroll down theres a pic of Tommy Jr.

 

[Goshin]

The distribution of this poll is a bit surprising. More people in "Zero" or 3-5 than not.

 

[RAMOSS]

People that I was close to, 0. My mother isolated herself, and have gotten vaxxed and boosted. My sister and her family got vaccinated and boosted,

I , do however, know 4 people who died of covid. I also had co-workers who had family members die of covid .

 

[SMTA]

Simple question. Let's only count people you were fairly close to.... family, friends, long-term acquaintances, neighbor you saw regularly, that sort of thing. Not your brother-in-law's co-worker that you met once several years ago.

I lost three that hurt. There were five others that I sorta-kinda knew, but I'm not going to count them... just the ones whose loss was somewhat personal to me .

TIA for your participation. Poll is private.

Zero
My family and friends were all smart enough to mask up, get vaxxed, and used common sense

 

[Goshin]

Zero
My family and friends were all smart enough to mask up, get vaxxed, and used common sense

That's good, but bear in mind there were some people who took all reasonable precautions and died anyway. Just sayin'.

 

[donhughesmusic]

Zero, but we were lucky. My wife's 94 year old grandmother got it after she was vaxxed with one booster. She had an easier time with it than I did. I got it before vaccinations were open to everyone. I was on home oxygen for a week and had an elevated heart rate for a month and a half after I got over it (37 at the time and healthy). She didn't even need to go to the hospital.

 

[NWRatCon]

A quick Google says that's not actually correct, with a ton of articles on why. This is one of the better explanations... physicians often list details of cause of death on the death certificate, included specific effects caused by the disease. That doesn't mean the person didn't die as a direct result of Covid... just that the physician wrote a detailed death cert.


https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/cdc-6-percent-covid-deaths

Another article:

"But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email."

And then add in that most Americans have some sort of "comorbidity", like being overweight at a minimum, and many people have some condition they are not even aware of that could be counted as contributing factors.

I knew a 26yo with no previous health issues who nearly died of Covid: the blood effects caused him to have a massive heart attack of the sort few survive. If he'd died the cause of death would have been cardiac arrest resulting from Covid effects, even though he had no prior history of heart issues.

I was going to post some of the same information. That claim was debunked years ago. Some conspiracy ideologues will post anything, anywhere to disrupt a thread.

I lost my oldest sister. She caught covid the week before her vaccination and succumbed 3 days later. She died at home. She was 68.

 

[Renae]

No one I know has passed from covid, or with covid. A number of folks got it, but that's it.

 

[wist43]

A quick Google says that's not actually correct, with a ton of articles on why. This is one of the better explanations... physicians often list details of cause of death on the death certificate, included specific effects caused by the disease. That doesn't mean the person didn't die as a direct result of Covid... just that the physician wrote a detailed death cert.


https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/cdc-6-percent-covid-deaths

Another article:

"But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email."

And then add in that most Americans have some sort of "comorbidity", like being overweight at a minimum, and many people have some condition they are not even aware of that could be counted as contributing factors.

I knew a 26yo with no previous health issues who nearly died of Covid: the blood effects caused him to have a massive heart attack of the sort few survive. If he'd died the cause of death would have been cardiac arrest resulting from Covid effects, even though he had no prior history of heart issues.

You're talking about comorbidities, my comment was related to "just covid".

As I said, the CDC themselves pegged the number of "just covid" deaths at 6%.

That said, you have to take all of these statistics - and anything the government says on any topic - with a grain of salt.

They have an agenda, and will lie to advance that agenda. The will omit, fudge, overstate, downplay, ignore, etc, any and all evidence to fit the template - and the media will dutifully report it as gospel.

I'm sure they're cooking up more batches of crisis for us as we speak. Whether it's Monkeypox, or some new designer virus - they're just getting started.

The world is going to be a far different place in 10 years.

 

[Goshin]

You're talking about comorbidities, my comment was related to "just covid".

As I said, the CDC themselves pegged the number of "just covid" deaths at 6%.

That said, you have to take all of these statistics - and anything the government says on any topic - with a grain of salt.

They have an agenda, and will lie to advance that agenda. The will omit, fudge, overstate, downplay, ignore, etc, any and all evidence to fit the template - and the media will dutifully report it as gospel.

I'm sure they're cooking up more batches of crisis for us as we speak. Whether it's Monkeypox, or some new designer virus - they're just getting started.

The world is going to be a far different place in 10 years.

 

[NWRatCon]

It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning...

 

[wist43]

It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning...

Well, for someone who has lived a few years... where America is today, and where we were 50 years ago??

I was hoping none of this would start before I passed, but alas, I'm still kickin'

 

[wist43]

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Just to give you some food for thought...

A dude fell off a ladder and died - he was counted as a covid death.

Another guy was shot and killed by police - he was counted as a covid death.

Anyone who had covid within 60 days of their death, was counted as a covid death, whether it was a factor or not.

Hospitals were paid for every covid death... flu death?? No cha-ching

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And so it goes on and on. Fauci and the other fraudsters were caught lying so many times it's ridiculous.

Now, the only logical inference one can draw from that, is that they were artificially inflating the numbers to create fear in the population.

 

[Fledermaus]

Just to give you some food for thought...

A dude fell off a ladder and died - he was counted as a covid death.

Another guy was shot and killed by police - he was counted as a covid death.

Anyone who had covid within 60 days of their death, was counted as a covid death, whether it was a factor or not.

Hospitals were paid for every covid death... flu death?? No cha-ching

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And so it goes on and on. Fauci and the other fraudsters were caught lying so many times it's ridiculous.

Now, the only logical inference one can draw from that, is that they were artificially inflating the numbers to create fear in the population.

Just some food for thought.

COVID is under reported world wide with millions unaccounted for .

 

[reflechissez]

Since only 6% of covid deaths were due only to covid - I think it's safe to assume most of the claimants in this thread lost someone due to a comorbidity complicated by covid.

Several states have revised their numbers downward after the CDC reduced the number of days before a death that someone with covid could he counted as a "covid death".

When they ratcheted the timeframes down from 60 days to 30 days, "covid death" numbers were reduced by 25%.

The further problem that still exists, is that even if someone died from something completely unrelated to covid, they are still counted as a covid death if they tested positive within 30 days of their death.

Then there is the issue hospitals being incentivized to lie. Every "covid death" rang the cash register. Those numbers are surely not accurate either.

I appreciate all the sources you provided to back this up. Thanks.