Wyrmdog
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And if you live your life with out trying bacon once - it's your loss.
Pigs are such a magical animal.
And if you live your life with out trying bacon once - it's your loss.
that doesn't matter. Your claim was
If it is as you so state how is it even possible that the acts themselves are sin? They would not be sin. The whole believe in christ and repent is in itself telling that the acts are not advocated but looked down upon and if not outright taboo, but that through repenting via the teachings of christ that the person may still seek salvation. In that they are then not condemned eternally for a single act of sin to which all mankind is prone to.
So again, where is this advocacy garbage, or are you in err?
Based on what are you more than positive. Even in the Quran it does not state that Jesus hated gays. So how can you draw this conclusion?
What you're doing here is simply hearrasy. The Quran does not state that Jesus condemned Gay's themselves.
Though the Quran does state that Jesus was indeed the messiah
Christians do not state that Jesus is God, they clearly state that he is the son OF God.
Uh, no, human's created religion and god so as to explain many things to which they could not.
If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not a christian, so please subside with this "you" "you" "you".
Pigs are such a magical animal.
Interesting - let me ask you this then. On what basis do you have that proves that the 10 commandments are indeed authentic? And if the 10 commandments are the only written text of god (word of god), then what does that make the old testment, new testment and quran? Seems they're all the jibber jabber of human's - not god.Same rules in Judaism and Islam and almost in christianity ..
10 commandment ... So why would I argue in something that been mentioned more than one time ...
Beside I believe in islam .. and when you believe in God .. He enlight your way ... and He said ...
15:96] who set up another god beside GOD. They will surely find out.
[15:97] We know full well that you may be annoyed by their utterances.
[15:98] You shall sing the praises of your Lord, and be with the prostrators.
[15:99] And worship your Lord, in order to attain certainty.
Also He said ....
49:7] And know that GOD's messenger has come in your midst. Had he listened to you in many things, you would have made things difficult for yourselves. But GOD made you love faith and adorned it in your hearts, and He made you abhor disbelief, wickedness, and disobedience. These are the guided ones.
So from 10 years I wasnt the same as now .. but with patience .. reading .. surfing .. knowing about other religions ... comparing ... thinking .. You gather more knowledge and then you are free to chose which religion did really touch your hearts and mind ...
I tried many times to doubt in islam but everytime i do that .. I fail .. I m very certain of what I believe ... Thank God .
If islam adopt homosexuality ... I wouldnt be by now a muslima .. I would know that is a fake corrupted religion to fit the human sin lifestyle
Please dont call dark ages civilization ... I know that civilized people can differ between wrong and right .. and when Men play woman role or a woman play man role that is not acceptable .. each one of us has his/her role ...
How shameful when a man allow another men to sleep with him .same for 2 women .
God rules cant be change by human rules .. human are sinner weak ... if we leave our destiny in human hands .. we will be all doomed ...
The only one who would benefit to change and reform religion is Satan ..
I dont see any changes in the world ... I see that history repeat itself
God mentioned all of this nations before ... so what did change ? I dont see anything new came up in this century ??? Actually I see more dark ages coming by allowing more sin ...
Prophet Loot .. Job .. Noah ... all those prophets suffered from people who wants to refuse God law just because it doesnt fit their own lifestyle and how did this people end up ???
Why do you think God sent messengers or holy books ? to annoy us ?? bothering us with stories ??? no to protect us from Satan sedition .
The only religion I saw spreading hates is the KKK ...
and I guess all of them was christian .
Well for starters I quite seriously doubt that you've ever seen my world. Secondly it seems that you've only had your eyes open to what you wanted to see and the prejudice that you already had to begin with rather than seeing what was actually there.I dont believe it .. who you are trying to fool ... if I lived only in Egypt and I havent seen your world .. I might doubt in my information ..
No, I don't see that as shameful at all, I see that as a modern society recognizing that there's no shame in being who you are - are you fearful of homosexuality? Again, I seriously doubt you've ever lived where I've lived so don't speak as if you understand me at all newbie.Shery said:I have lived where you live and seen how people act and behave .. and what they believe in ... it is a shame that you have a LOT OF CHURCH AND SYNAGOGUE FOR GAYS ??? dont you feel that is a shameful thing ???
Forgiveness again does not equate to advocacy. So again, it is your claim, the burden of proof rests with you to prove to me and the rest of this forum that christianity advocates homosexuality.Shery said:No matter what you say to me ... that wont change nothing from reality.
Simple, there are always two sides to any story. While islam focuses on the prophet mohammed, christianity focuses on christ. While islam focuses on justice, christianity focuses on unconditional love. Is there any story that is more right than the other? nope. Just flip sides of the same coin - the end result is the same.Shery said:Based on what ???
See here is my point ... you are now showing your true face ..
but here what islam said about Gays .. So as long as we believe in Jesus as one of our prophets So certainly ... he wouldnt love what God doomed before ..
7:80] Lot said to his people, "You commit such an abomination; no one in the world has done it before!
[7:81] "You practice sex with the men, instead of the women. Indeed, you are a transgressing people."
[7:82] His people responded by saying, "Evict them from your town. They are people who wish to be pure."
[7:83] Consequently, we saved him and his family, but not his wife; she was with the doomed.
[7:84] We showered them with a certain shower; note the consequences for the guilty
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11:69] When our messengers went to Abraham with good news, they said, "Peace." He said, "Peace," and soon brought a roasted calf.
[11:70] When he saw that their hands did not touch it, he became suspicious and fearful of them. They said, "Do not be afraid, we are being dispatched to the people of Lot."
[11:71] His wife was standing, and she laughed when we gave her the good news about Isaac, and after Isaac, Jacob.
[11:72] She said, "Woe to me, how could I bear a child at my age, and here is my husband, an old man? This is really strange!"
[11:73] They said, "Do you find it strange for GOD? GOD has bestowed His mercy and blessings upon you, O inhabitants of the shrine. He is Praiseworthy, Glorious."
[11:74] When Abraham's fear subsided, and the good news was delivered to him, he proceeded to argue with us on behalf of Lot's people.
[11:75] Indeed, Abraham was clement, extremely kind, and obedient.
[11:76] "O Abraham, refrain from this. Your Lord's judgment has been issued; they have incurred unavoidable retribution."
[11:77] When our messengers went to Lot, they were mistreated, and he was embarrassed by their presence. He said, "This is a difficult day."
[11:78] His people came rushing; they had grown accustomed to their sinful acts. He said, "O my people, it would be purer for you, if you take my daughters instead. You shall reverence GOD; do not embarrass me with my guests. Have you not one reasonable man among you?"
[11:79] They said, "You know well that we have no need for your daughters; you know exactly what we want."
[11:80] He said, "I wish I were strong enough, or had a powerful ally!"
[11:81] (The angels) said, "O Lot, we are your Lord's messengers, and these people cannot touch you. You shall leave with your family during the night, and let not anyone of you look back, except your wife; she is condemned along with those who are condemned. Their appointed time is the morning. Is not the morning soon enough?"
[11:82] When our judgment came, we turned it upside down, and we showered it with hard, devastating rocks.
[11:83] Such rocks were designated by your Lord to strike the transgressors
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So give me one reason why would Prophet Jesus or if he is God as you are saying .. which he is not ... why would he loves people been doomed at prophet Lot time ???
They are doomed unless they repent is what the bible says.Shery said:They are Sodom .. and the same story in your bible .. and they were doomed as well.
Prove to me that god exists then.Shery said:Of course jesus is the messiah Christ Issa Jesus .. and no human didnt create religion .. Human are very weak .. Look at the sky and see how small you are ?? so creation was only made by God .. either this earth .. universe or religion.
Shery said:and as long as I explained the you you you before .. why you keep repeating yourself !?
I'll drink to that :cheers:I see a lot of religions spreading hate, including yours and your irrational hatred of the Jews. All religion is flawed, all your gods are equally false and imaginary. And all religion has at some point been abused by those in charge to trick the people into a line of action they would normally not take. Mankind will be better off without these artificial constructs of our imagination; here's to the time when man can put its reliance on gods aside.
Interesting - let me ask you this then. On what basis do you have that proves that the 10 commandments are indeed authentic? And if the 10 commandments are the only written text of god (word of god), then what does that make the old testment, new testment and quran? Seems they're all the jibber jabber of human's - not god.
yes - it is the other side to the BHKad coin.
Well for starters I quite seriously doubt that you've ever seen my world. Secondly it seems that you've only had your eyes open to what you wanted to see and the prejudice that you already had to begin with rather than seeing what was actually there.
No, I don't see that as shameful at all, I see that as a modern society recognizing that there's no shame in being who you are - are you fearful of homosexuality? Again, I seriously doubt you've ever lived where I've lived so don't speak as if you understand me at all newbie.
Forgiveness again does not equate to advocacy. So again, it is your claim, the burden of proof rests with you to prove to me and the rest of this forum that christianity advocates homosexuality.
Simple, there are always two sides to any story. While islam focuses on the prophet mohammed, christianity focuses on christ. While islam focuses on justice, christianity focuses on unconditional love. Is there any story that is more right than the other? nope. Just flip sides of the same coin - the end result is the same.
They are doomed unless they repent is what the bible says.
Prove to me that god exists then.
You must have me confused with someone else. So do explain to me the you you you part.
Good point.I'm sorry, but does anyone here respect bhkad? At all?
Respect is earned, neither of them have done so in the least.
In otherwords because you can't think of any other explaination other than that of devine intervention being the cause of the 10 commandments is the reason why you think man did not write them - other than that you have no proof?The 10 commandments make sence to me ..
very wise commandments that wouldnt come out from a man.
I don't see anywhere on the 10 commandments where god said he'd protect the quran. And since the 10 cammandments are the only source to which you've stated that god wrote you can not use the quran as a reference - god did not write the quran. If I showed you a book and told you that it is the written word of god what prevents you from accepting that it is the written word of god other than your belief?Shery said:Because Cain start the killing thing ... So I dont think Men are wise at all .
old testment and new one .. to me are holy books that been reformed by human and corrupted .. but still parts of it true ... but I dont take it as my reference .. My reference is Quran ... which God promised to protect Quran from corruption ... and I trust God promises .
I act as I find ... when I pray against you .. it means that the previous post was offensive to my world or some events happened by your world against my world .
What makes you think for a moment that I'm from the US, German, Italy or even the western world? Like I said, don't pretend to know me when you don't newbie.I been 3 times to The US ... and germany and italy .. I cant talk about italy and germany as much as the US .. because the US I spent more than 6 month at the first time. I m not saying that all your life is negative .. you might have coupld of good things such as shopping .. and hmmmm I think shopping.
I don't. what I do care about is false representation, lies and willful ignorance. All of which you've shown here.Shery said:If you are not ashamed .. so why even care about God !
Actually you seem very weak and I see that from your obvious insecurity in needing to somehow seem "not weak".Shery said:you must be kidding me ! ... No problem to be gay as long that Jesus is your savior .. and christianity do not tolerate homosexuality this way !
Yeah antichrist will always claim that Sin is a civilized thing ...
Only weak would see your hell as heaven and Thank God I m not weak.
Learn to read. I didn't say the quran mentions the prophet mohamed I said your religion focus from mohamed and his teachings.Shery said:Where in any of this verses ... mentioning anything about Prophet MOhamed ???? it is all about prophet Loot and Prophet Ibrahim !
Believe in the teachings of christ, recognize your sin and don't sin any more and then perhaps you will achieve salvation. If you were better read in the bible you would understand this.Shery said:Repent means to you .. believe that jesus is your savior .. no problem be gay . Jesus loves you
I'm asking you to. As you see it as proof positive that god exists then show me that god indeed exists. Would you believe me were I to tell you that I am god?Shery said:He will prove to you ... later
Christianity is not me, nor is western world for that matter. My society does not observe what you've described nor does my community.Shery said:YOu .. means your community .. Society .. western world .. christianity ...
Not healthy ... eats dirts .. and you still insist to eat it ..
Ok fine .. eat it !
OK .. so let me bring this close to you ...
You would agree that your government brought laws and rules that you must follow .. and if you break it .. you may get punished ..
But You will have to follow this country or government rules and laws .. though this laws and rules has been made by human
but You dont agree to follow the law and rules that been sent by God to human ...
Conclusion ... You follow the thing that you can see and touch .. the law that been applied by other human
But you refuse the law of God .. because you think it is fake and not worth to be followed ??? right ???
And we must obey and follow the government but the government should not follow God rules and Laws
because human laws and rules are much better than God 's law ..!!
No. I believe religion is the expression of ones soul, of ones faith and belief. Religion, forced by a government upon people, is a cheap and tawdry thing that insults and distorts the true meaning of the religion. Religion, not taking freely upon a person, is worthless and more than that destructive and wrong. You seek a world where everyone is forced, by the government, to follow the religion and the rules of the god you believe. I seek a world where every person is free to practice the religion that their soul calls to and where religion is pure because it is the CHOICE of the person to practice it.
How I see christian of Today ?
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In our holy book in Islam .. God told us to never mistreat the people of the book .. but is the christian of today is the one who been mentioned in Quran ?
No ... God meant those who has a good hearts and when they hear Quran they cant stop their tears from falling from what they have heard in Quran .
But the christian of Today ... become the religion of the antichrist
Any law been forbiden by God .. is applied and blessed by the christian community ... Such as abortion . adoption .. homosexuality ...Anal sex ...Sex with woman in her courses time ...
All that is acceptable by the christian religion
Judaism and Islam forbid pork ... and both circumsize men for cleaniness .
Christian allow pork and dont circumsize men ...
The christian go to their church to bend their knees infront of a statue ...
The pope hold in his hand a stick that carry a man who been crusified and he call him jesus !!!!
Is that the magic stick Mr pope ?????
Why I m saying that christianity of today =the religion of the antichrist ?
First mission of the antichrist is to make people believe in him instead of believing in God .
This mission was accomplished ...
Jesus was never crucified ... and this man who been crucified is unknown man which I strongly believe .. he was Judas who betrayed jesus ..
So when he betrayed Jesus .. God punished and he appeared to people in the form of jesus .. so People took him and crusified him instead of Jesus
Crusification been always a punishment ... and God dont punish His prophets ..but He would punish the people who betray HIM and HIS prophets .
So this man who been crusified was Judas .. who was able to survive after all this torture because he is the beast .. and he came back to life to revenge and to spread his wrong message ... and after years and years .. in Egypt th christian claims that they have found a Judas bible that clear him from betraying jesus
And this bible is used by many christians .
So the antichrist which is Judas .. Successed to make more than half of this world worship him instead of worshiping GOD ...
while I m watching one of my favorites movies .. which is "last samurai "
I realized that from long time ago the western world always supply countries with arms to kill their own people
This is the christian strategy supply 2 different parties at the same country .. and leave them to kill eachother
This is exactly what the antichrist would do .. turn men against their own brothers ... which what Bush and Blair and Sarkozy trying to do now with Qatar and Saudia ... against Iran ..
But I have bad news for you ... Your plots wont successed .. because your antichrist will no longer be able to support you Inshallah .
You have destroyed Afghanistan .. Iraq ...and what comes around .. goes around .. and it will be back to you Inshallah ..
let see how antichrist and priest who allow gays to get marry in holy places such as Synagogue and church ..will help you to stand against God anger .
The plot of Satan is weak ... and the man on the cross wont help u
and you will see Inshallah ...
those who you call them terrorist are my people ... in your eye they are terrorist ... in my opinion .. they resist your invasion to their countries ..
they defend their proud and dignity and trying to get freedom ...
God is fair ..
and if you are the right side .. you wouldnt fear my prayers .. because if I m the bad one .. God wouldnt reply me back .. God is fair and He knows who deserve what ... He created this world and He knows how to manage it .
Hang on there, you speak as if you know what God's rules are. So tell me then what are god's rules? How do you know without doubt that they are indeed god's rules?
Oh my God "shery the Muslim" insulted the Pope and Jesus! We must run to the streets and riot killing a couple of hundred of people who had nothing to do with this!.....:roll:
Is your burka on too tight?
I think its cutting off the O2 from your brain...
Show me one single insult to prophet jesus ???
I dont dare to insult him .. he is one of our prophet ...
I dont dare to paint prophets or mock them as you do ...
but I sare to mock the pope .. though I didnt insult him .
I think I was very clear .. and dont try to put words on my mouth ..
because I dont even dare to insult prophet jesus ..
The only people who dare insult God and Prophets is western people .
Oh Sherry please cut the hypocrisy. Please tell me what your Koran and Sharia law advocate for Jews and Christians if they accept dhimi status under your muslima ways?
Please enlighten us kufurs (like atheists like myself) would be treated under sharia law.
Sherry what is wrong with eating pork? Don't give me the usual argument about being unclean, or having parasites in their meat..... A) If you actually see other farm animals, they can have very unclean habits. B) Parasites can found in halal animals.......
Your Allah must have really got confused about the male foreskin. First he creates one because it serves a purpose in sexual intercourse, but then he realizes that if muslima men are too lazy to use soap and water it will no longer be nice and clean for muslima women. Oh yes circumcision, makes so much sense when God 'designed the forskin' in the first palce.
Sherry have you actually got any proof, apart from your Koran that says Jesus wasn't cruicified? I mean its bad enough that Chrisitians believe that he came back from the dead, but muslimas some how think that he just floated to heaven.... Ha ha, I like that one.
You know what, how about you provide me with some proof that Jesus even existed, outside of the New Testament or the Koran.
Oh Sherry you forget the Muslimas love invading other nations. Sherry why don't you tell us about the Muslimas that thought it would be a great idea to bring Persia into the Ulema? How they destroyed Persian culture, destroyed the religion of Zoroastrianism.
How the Ulema invaded, by force whole areas of the Middle East. Sherry don't you know that before you ancestors lost to the Arab armies, Egyptians were Chrisitians, Jews, and animists. Interesting how muslimas forget their past......
How about you share your knowledge of the Imperialist Ottaman Turks that invaded Europe, and where only stopped from turning Europe into a muslima nation, by the Austrians outside tha gates of Vienna.
Sherry, how about you tell us about the Moors, that weren't just content to live in their native North Africa, but had to 'convert' the infidels in the peninsula of Iberia (now Spain and Portugal).
Sherry how about you share with us the history of the Muslima armies that tried to invade Sicily?
Sherry how about telling us how Muslima farmers grow opium in Afghanistan, and how the Taleban and Al-Queda traffic this crop to earn cash so that they can fight the infidels.
Western society is not the anti-christ, neither is the Middle East. But lets face it your culture is sex obsessed, and not in healthy way. What kind of religion obsesses about homosexuality, anal sex between heterosexuals, has a god that creates women but then wants them to be modest, because the men he created can't control themselves? What kind of society whole handedly rejects enlightenment, individual values, capitalism, and scientific inquiry, yet uses the very technology generated by infidel values?
As has been said before, if your culture does not change to infidel ways once you run out of oil, you can have all you Korans, madrases, sharia law, pious men and women, but you muslimas will be poor and un-educated fools. only wallowing in theocracy. And then who will you blame for your woes?
Your hypocrisy is amazing Muslima.