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How far away are we from not using oil, coal, and nuclear and instead ethanol, wind, and solar?

Build on location is the standard mode, moving buildings is very difficult.
 



He adds a load and his bill goes down?
 
Depends, do you want rapid charging or all night long charging?

Exactly. Rapid charging (sometimes known as "SuperCharge" by Tesla standards) or "Level 3" charging is not recommended for everyday use because over time it is not friendly to current battery technology battery lifetime.

If you've charged your car overnight, and you go to the end of your range, it's okay to do a quick 20 or 30 minute SuperCharge to get another 140 to 175 miles, and maybe even one more to get another 140 to 175 miles. By that point, if you're driving alone and you're not snorting crystal meth or sucking down a 12 pack of Red Bull, you're going to have driven as far as most people can in a day, and you're going to be sleeping, thus overnight charging again.

Few if any people have a Level 3 charger installed at home. And Level 3 WOULD require a ridiculous number of panels.
 

MY neighbor used to charge his small motorcycle battery by paralleling it with his car battery, with NO current regulation. His small battery couldn't take it...he finally repaired the alternator on the motorcycle after destroying several motorcycle batteries.
 

The next time you are cruising up the valley, stop here and ask for a tour... actually call ahead:

https://www.guardianglass.com/AboutGuardian/Newsroom/News/GI_005415

This Guardian Glass in Kingsburg, CA. You can see it from Hwy 99. If they are still doing float, they are the only glass manufacturer in California. If you have never seen how glass is made, it's worth the trip. I suggest this to you so you can get some idea just how much energy it takes to run a factory like this. Most people just don't have any idea how much power it takes to get the wheels to go around on a commercial scale. I don't recall if they are gas or electric, but energy is energy.

The company is so massive the website is too big to make sense of here. Just give them a call.
 
According to your neighbor it subtracts, not adds.....typo?

Oh FFS, I'm saying that he told me his overall bill is lower than when he had straight utility from the electric company.
His Leaf has not ADDED all that much to his OVERALL lower bill.
He HAD been paying $400 to 500 a month, now his overall bill, WITH the lease payment on the solar, is closer to $250.
I would guess the Leaf adds maybe 20 bucks a month to the bill.

Why is that so hard to understand?
 
We subsidize Iowa farmers who use their corn to make ethanol which is then shipped by rail all the way to the refineries in Newark, NJ. The alternative would be cheap Brazilian ethanol that could be brought in by tanker that would tie up just outside the refineries. But we have a restrictive tariff on their ethanol to protect the rich Iowa farmers, Thanks, Sen. Grassley.

 
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Because you left out some information....

Not to get too technical but I have been involved in alternate energy since Jimmy Carter was elected, and I spent many years working in the nuclear power industry.
 
How much progress has been made? How much progress remains before we can use ethanol, wind, and solar instead of fossil fuels? What is still standing in our way?

answer: Congress and Trump's deregulations
 

What about the cost of drilling and finding new wells and maintaining refineries? What about the pollution? What about the fact that fossil fuels eventually run out?

Imagine how many jobs we can create focusing on renewable energies.
 
Affordability for the masses.

It's getting there. We're about at the point where VCR's were in the late-1970's, when a decent VCR was still around three or four hundred bucks. Even though you could get a base model for 200, it was crap and not worth getting.

By the late 1980's even a good VCR was in the 250 dollar range.
This is technology, every year is a decade.
 
Base load plants are hydro, coal, and nuclear, and take a lot of time to start up and shutdown, while peaking plants are usually combined cycle natural gas and can start/stop comparatively instantly.
Renewables are added to the grid when available and can do much to reduce fuel use by coal/gas etc. So far, that is what we have to work with in most places like it or not.

Electric cars need a lot less maintenance, definitely a plus.
 

It's not as bad as that, it's just that fast charging heats the batteries up a lot more than overnight charging, and they can take the heat, just not over a lifetime, unless you don't mind shortening the battery life by about 30 percent.
 

I am not disputing any of that, Chuck.
Unlike some here, I actually DO NOT foresee us getting completely off either central utilities OR carbon based fuels anytime soon.
But what is unsustainable is the notion that we can just continue with the status quo. We absolutely NEED renewables to be developed to their max potential, so that we build FEWER carbon based central utility plants.
Decentralized and localized residential power is the future but we will still need contributions from the big utilities to power the big commercial and industrial users first and foremost.
And I am okay with that, if we can keep them cleaner and explore things like thorium nukes.
 

Actually we could grow the sugar cane and use the bagasse and make ethanol in the deep South.
 
How much progress has been made? How much progress remains before we can use ethanol, wind, and solar instead of fossil fuels? What is still standing in our way?
Ethanol damages engines. Delivery of wind powered submarines and airplanes is behind schedule.
 
Get back to us in 2028 when the actually accomplish that.
 

Hell, make vodka with it and sell it to the Russians! Burning corn is flatout stupid. They have been trying to get alcohol out of cellulose, but i haven’t been hearing much about that lately.
 
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