How dumb is Trump? He blames the Democrats for a government shutdown

[noonereal]

CBS reports, "President Trump said Sunday that a government shutdown is likely unless top Democrats back down from their negotiating position.

"I just don't know how we are going to solve this issue," Mr. Trump said in a phone interview with CBS News.

"Mr. Trump also expressed confidence that the American people will side with him if government funding expires in the coming days, and he believes Democrats will pay a political price for not working with him, on his terms, to further cut spending."

Trump's Republican Party controls both Houses of Congress and the White House!

Why is this dumb?

Most, yes most Americans will belive him.the more he says it, the more belive him.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Negotiate with them, the big thing they're pushing for is to roll back cuts to Medicare. They could work something out if MAGA wasn't thinking that this is Road House.

Republicans are proposing a SEVEN WEEK clean CR. Plenty of time to negotiate in seven weeks.

Democrats are too scared of the activist base that lambasted them for working with Republicans in March. They are now beholden to that side of the party.

 

[noonereal]

Chuck Schumer is lying to everyone again.
He is shutting down the government for free healthcare for illegal aliens.

What if someone close to you read this?

Come on. Dont post such trash.
Thanks

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Chuck Schumer is lying to everyone again.
He is shutting down the government for free healthcare for illegal aliens.

You lie with the best of them.

That's how Republicans support Trump. They lie.

I noticed you and other Republicans ignored the reality of my two posts, 116 and 117.

 

[JMB1911A1]

If Republicans had just agreed with Chuck Schumer and nuked the filibuster, this wouldn't be an issue. I guess Chuck is now happy that Republicans have more respect for the institutions of the Senate than he does.

 

[Ikari]

Republicans are proposing a SEVEN WEEK clean CR. Plenty of time to negotiate in seven weeks.

Democrats are too scared of the activist base that lambasted them for working with Republicans in March. They are now beholden to that side of the party.

Heard that before, think this is our first CR? MAGA ****tards don't know how to pass an actual budget.

No more buying into MAGA lies. They can negotiate or they can shut down the government. It's on MAGA.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Heard that before, think this is our first CR? MAGA ****tards don't know how to pass an actual budget.

No more buying into MAGA lies. They can negotiate or they can shut down the government. It's on MAGA.

Democrats advent passed budgets either. They are ****ing incompetent in that building.

Like I said before, I guess Chuck is now happy that Republicans have more respect for the institutions of the Senate than he does and did not nuke the filibuster like Chuck wanted to.

 

[Ikari]

Democrats advent passed budgets either. They are ****ing incompetent in that building.

Like I said before, I guess Chuck is now happy that Republicans have more respect for the institutions of the Senate than he does and did not nuke the filibuster like Chuck wanted to.

MAGA has **** all respect for the Republic. They'll refuse all negotiations, shut down the government, all for Dear Leader. America be damned.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Negotiate with them, the big thing they're pushing for is to roll back cuts to Medicare. They could work something out if MAGA wasn't thinking that this is Road House.

What “cuts to Medicare” are you talking about?

 

[Pyrite]

The bottom line is that trump and the GOP refuse to talk to the Dems, or negotiate....

SOH Johnson shut the House down. Republican members are on vacation.

So much for any "negotiating" or "compromise" in order to stop the GOP Government Shutdown.

 

[JMB1911A1]

What “cuts to Medicare” are you talking about?

The OBBB act cut Medicare support for illegal aliens and instituted a work/community service requirement for Medicaid recipients who are not disabled and aged 19-64 years old. Democrats want to roll those changes back.

 

[JMB1911A1]

SOH Johnson shut the House down. Republican members are on vacation.

So much for any "negotiating" or "compromise" in order to stop the GOP Government Shutdown.

The House already passed the CR. It is being filibustered in the Senate by the Democrats . Good thing for Chuck Schumer that the Republicans did not take his advice and kill the filibuster.

 

[Captain America]

Trump owns the executive branch, the senate and the supreme court. If there is a shut down on his watch, he owns it.

Regardless, the partisan spin-doctors will try to somehow turn it around to make it look like it's those, "stupid democrats" fault.

And the MAGA cultists will believe it.

Rinse and repeat.

So, how do you guys like tyranny so far? Well, it's not like you weren't warned.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Here is what Democrats are demanding and why they are filibustering the clean CR that has already passed the House.

• Restoring funding for NPR. Why should government fund this?
• Funding for foreign climate change programs. Let foreign government pay their own bills.
• Revocation of the rural hospital fund. Proof that Democrats really don’t care about rural healthcare after all.
• Removal of changes to Medicaid/Obamacare that helped prevent illegals from taking advantage of the system.

 

[dseag2]

I'm happy to let the remaining hardline Democrats refuse to read the room and make this huge mistake in thinking it won't be seen as their fault.

Democrats are the ones demanding new budgeting to be added to the CR. Democrats still think they can gaslight this, but it only really works on their dwindling number of supporters.

People in this thread who think it will be the Republicans fault because they aren't willing to nuke the Filibuster are just being goofy. You want the Republicans to take away the Democrats only power as the minority ... for what, exactly?

US Congressional rules were always designed to give the minority party bargaining power over important legislation. That Democrats choose to use that to demand more spending on illegal aliens and USAID is just the Democrats playing a game of chicken with themselves.

Yeah, right.

Who gets blamed for a shutdown? Polls show nation is divided.

New polling in the hours before the midnight Oct. 1 shutdown shows how Americans view the congressional impasse.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Captain America]

Where does the buck stop?

Hell, who knows? The current administration spends more time blaming others for their screw-ups than they do actually trying to fix them. Full on defensive mode 365/24/7. Sheesh....

The answer to that simple question used to be a very easy one.

As I mentioned before, KING TRUMP OWNS the executive branch, KING TRUMP OWNS the house, KING TRUMP OWNS the Senate. Hell, KING TRUMP even OWNS the SCOTUS. He has demolished the three "separate but equal" branches of our government. Yet, it's somehow the democrat's fault

The democrats refusing to kiss the ring and succumb to KING TRUMPS tyranny? Hmmmmm.. Damn traitors, I say!

Yeah, it's all the evil democrats fault. The buck stops with the democrats. No doubt. 100%. Run with that.

 

[jmotivator]

Yeah, right.

Same poll:



Like I said, everyone knows who decided to shut the government down.

 

[jmotivator]

It's amazing watching this gaslighting.

There was a clean Continuing Resolution passed by the House available (still is!) that would fund the government at precisely the same level as it was being funded yesterday and the Democrats filibustered it.

There is no way to spin this that isn't the Democrats fault. They were literally given the opportunity to keep the government open at current spending levels and they said no.

 

[jmotivator]

Well, that didn't take long.

The Democrats have moved to the "OK, it's true, and it's a good thing." stage of their spinning and the Government hasn't even been closed 12 hours.

At this pace they may fold before the weekend.

 

[trixare4kids]

Chuck Schumer is lying to everyone again.
He is shutting down the government for free healthcare for illegal aliens.

Yeah, Schumer is lying, probably to keep his job as the far left progressives are closing in on his future job prospects. In fact most of the more high level Democrats from the party are also lying. So are their dutiful lackeys from the leftist echo chambers.

Schumer said none of the Covid subsidies due to expire at the end of 2025 went or would go for the healthcare of illegal aliens, the undocumented.

Proof of Schumer's lying is right here:

Reimbursements to Providers for Uninsured Patients:

• The CARES Act established the COVID-19 Uninsured Program, administered by the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), which provided over $18 billion in relief funds to healthcare providers for treating uninsured individuals diagnosed with COVID-19. Providers could submit claims for care provided to undocumented immigrants without verifying immigration status, effectively using federal dollars to cover these costs. This was a departure from standard restrictions, as the program focused on pandemic response rather than individual eligibility.
• Funding for Community Health Centers (CHCs): CHCs, which serve as a primary care safety net for many low-income and immigrant communities, received $1.32 billion under the CARES Act (plus an additional $100 million in grants for treatment in underserved areas). These federally qualified centers are exempt from PRWORA restrictions and provided free COVID-19 testing, treatment, and vaccines to undocumented patients without regard to status.
• State-Level Expansions Using Federal Matching Funds: Several states (e.g., California, Connecticut, New York, Washington) used federal emergency Medicaid dollars to cover COVID-19 testing and treatment for undocumented immigrants, leveraging flexibilities in the FFCRA. While not all states participated, this amplified the federal subsidies' reach. https://x.com/i/grok/share/a0Lp6sJcSMmeQCjVJYJ5bYtqD

 

[Greenbeard]

Yeah, Schumer is lying, probably to keep his job as the far left progressives are closing in on his future job prospects. In fact most of the more high level Democrats from the party are also lying. So are their dutiful lackeys from the leftist echo chambers.

Schumer said none of the Covid subsidies due to expire at the end of 2025 went or would go for the healthcare of illegal aliens, the undocumented.

Proof of Schumer's lying is right here:

Reimbursements to Providers for Uninsured Patients:

• The CARES Act established the COVID-19 Uninsured Program, administered by the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), which provided over $18 billion in relief funds to healthcare providers for treating uninsured individuals diagnosed with COVID-19. Providers could submit claims for care provided to undocumented immigrants without verifying immigration status, effectively using federal dollars to cover these costs. This was a departure from standard restrictions, as the program focused on pandemic response rather than individual eligibility.
• Funding for Community Health Centers (CHCs): CHCs, which serve as a primary care safety net for many low-income and immigrant communities, received $1.32 billion under the CARES Act (plus an additional $100 million in grants for treatment in underserved areas). These federally qualified centers are exempt from PRWORA restrictions and provided free COVID-19 testing, treatment, and vaccines to undocumented patients without regard to status.
• State-Level Expansions Using Federal Matching Funds: Several states (e.g., California, Connecticut, New York, Washington) used federal emergency Medicaid dollars to cover COVID-19 testing and treatment for undocumented immigrants, leveraging flexibilities in the FFCRA. While not all states participated, this amplified the federal subsidies' reach. https://x.com/i/grok/share/a0Lp6sJcSMmeQCjVJYJ5bYtqD

That all ended years ago.

 

[lynnwinslow]

This bullshit started WAAAAAY before today.
Trump and the Trumplicans had plenty of time to right the ship and they blew it.


Here are some sources so you can get up to speed about how the budget process works.

How Presidents guide the budget process

 

[trixare4kids]

That all ended years ago.

They are lying to you.

 

[Greenbeard]

They are lying to you.

Are "they" in the room with us now?

At the moment, the only one lying to me is you! Trump's CARES Act hasn't been in effect for years.

 

[trixare4kids]

Schumer said the undocumented don't get the subsidies when in fact they did get them.

Jeffries claimed federal law prohibits the use of taxpayer dollars to provide medical coverage to undocumented individuals, and it DOES but the facts show undocumented illegal immigrants received Covid health care subsidies.

They are both incapable of telling the truth.

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