How Barack Obama Bombed the “Paris of Africa” into a Hell Hole of Murder, Slave Trade, Sex Trafficking and Mass Starvation

[ralfy]

We did have involvement, but Gaddafi was not innocent. He was brutal dictator for decades. He was also a sponsor of terror (very limited but did happen) and he got bombed for it back in the 1980s.

1986 United States bombing of Libya - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Gaddafi hated Israel and supported terror attacks on them. He was a steaming pile of turds.

Be well.

The U.S. worked with him and many other dictators. That's why when the U.S. attacks it does so not to ensure "freedom and democracy" but to gain advantages over others. In this case, it was to stop Libya from forming an oil bourse. Similar happened with Iraq, which was selling oil on euros, and Iran also forming an oil bourse.

Meanwhile, other terrorists were formed stemming from radicals funded by the U.S., recruited by U.S. ally Saudi Arabia, and trained by U.S. ally Pakistan.

 

[surada]

He was also part of a pan-Arab nationalist movement that swept the region to counter Western imperialism. That's why his RCC was inspired by Nasser of Egypt, and that movement even included Saddam Hussein, who by the 1970s made Iraq one of the most modern secular states in that part of the world.

The problem is that although the U.S. supported Arab nationalism because it countered the Soviets, it also led to nationalization of oil industries, which threatened Western energy sources, especially when U.S. conventional production peaked after 1970.

That's why the U.S. routinely worked with "monsters" like clerico-fascist regimes in Saudi Arabia over the petrodollar scheme while keeping dictators like Saddam and the Shah of Iran propped up to maintain access to oil. In fact, it does that over money and various strategic advantages:

FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO YEMEN – Zoltán Grossman

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The gist is that we're looking at multiple "monsters" attacking and working with each other, with some bigger than others.

The oil business in Iran and Iraq was developed under the British model.. Saudi Arabia was not.

Nationalization was written into the 1938 concession after 50 years.

In 1970 Gaddafi hired Abdullah Tariki and all but destroyed their oil business.

 

[surada]

The U.S. worked with him and many other dictators. That's why when the U.S. attacks it does so not to ensure "freedom and democracy" but to gain advantages over others. In this case, it was to stop Libya from forming an oil bourse. Similar happened with Iraq, which was selling oil on euros, and Iran also forming an oil bourse.

Meanwhile, other terrorists were formed stemming from radicals funded by the U.S., recruited by U.S. ally Saudi Arabia, and trained by U.S. ally Pakistan.

All that nonsense about the gold dinar and central banking in Libya was just rumor and ignorant speculation.

Al Qaeda was never a large group.. mostly recruited from Yemen and KSA for construction work in Afghanistan. They opposed the Soviets by building roads.

 

[surada]

If any one thing should convince people that Hillary Clinton isn't fit to run a bath never mind a Country like America,it was her reaction on hearing of the lynching of Gaddafi,we came we saw he died,then she laughed like some crazed axe killer,disgusting Woman,those Islamists were also lynching black people,wonder what Obama thought about that? then to top it all they killed the US Ambassador who had been helping them.

You don't seem to know anything about ambassador Stevens or Benghazi.

 

[Sword 1944]

You don't seem to know anything about ambassador Stevens or Benghazi.

I know the guy was attacked and sexually assaulted by the Islamist terrorists we supported to overthrow Libya,talk about blowback.

 

[Sword 1944]

The oil business in Iran and Iraq was developed under the British model.. Saudi Arabia was not.

Nationalization was written into the 1938 concession after 50 years.

In 1970 Gaddafi hired Abdullah Tariki and all but destroyed their oil business.

Don't you mean destroyed foreign looting of the oil?

 

[Sword 1944]

The standard of living was improved by Idris... Not Gaddafi. He died in 2011..and Hillary had nothing to do with it.

Some tin pot king improved living standards LOL! do me a favour.

 

[Sword 1944]

 

[Rogue Valley]

Attention folks.... @Sword 1944 is a Russian on a VPN.

 

[Sword 1944]

Attention folks.... @Sword 1944 is a Russian on a VPN.

That nonsense just proves you lost the argument.

 

[Rogue Valley]

That nonsense just proves you lost the argument.

Just alerting the good folks in this neck of the DP woods about you.

You are a Russian agent. You support the war criminal V.V. Putin.

Anyone can verify this by visiting the Russia/Ukraine/Belarus forum here.

 

[Sword 1944]

Just alerting the good folks in this neck of the DP woods.

You are a Russian agent. You support the war criminal V.V. Putin.

Give it up you sound more silly by the day.

 

[Luce]

Obama's entire foreign policy record was nothing short of disaster. He continued the occupation of Iraq, stared a new war in Libya (and got a diplomat killed), and let Putin take over Crimea without consequence. And all of this after he won the Nobel Peace Prize (what a joke that award is).

The only thing he got right was killing Bin Laden, but that sort of fell into his lap.

Point of order: He got his peace prize before he did anything at all.

But yes, his foreign policy was cold shit on toast.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Give it up you sound more silly by the day.

I've been here every day for a decade I'm going to be here for the duration. I've outlasted all the propagandists the Kremlin has sent here to DP.

This will be no different with you.

 

[Sword 1944]

I've been here every day for a decade I'm going to be here for the duration. I've outlasted all the propagandists the Kremlin has sent here to DP.

This will be no different with you.

Looks like you didn't learn anything in that decade.

 

[Luce]

Looks like you didn't learn anything in that decade.

He didn't learn to parrot Russian propaganda? How awful.

Bad Rogue Valley! No Pravda!

 

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[LouC]

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And?

 

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[LouC]

<Stupid Lie Tweet Snipped>

That Tweet is a flat out lie.

But President Obama, as I said then, and still say now, did not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, and not just because he later proved to be a rampant War Monger, but because at the time he had received it he had done nothing for Peace in this World, and Lord knows he certainly did nothing afterwards, for Peace in this world.

 

[ralfy]

<Stupid Lie Tweet Snipped>

That Tweet is a flat out lie.

But President Obama, as I said then, and still say now, did not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, and not just because he later proved to be a rampant War Monger, but because at the time he had received it he had done nothing for Peace in this World, and Lord knows he certainly did nothing afterwards, for Peace in this world.

The tweet refers to The Guardian, a left-wing outlet which reported on the number of bombs dropped by the Drone King. If it's a lie, then what's the correct number of bombs dropped?

 

[noonereal]

How Barack Obama Bombed the “Paris of Africa” into a Hell Hole of Murder, Slave Trade, Sex Trafficking and Mass Starvation - CovertAction Magazine

First, Obama falsely portrayed Gaddafi as a monster; then, he lied about the need for harsh sanctions to punish him for crimes he never committed and, finally, he launched an illegal war under a pretext as phony as Lyndon Johnson’s Tonkin Gulf Resolution and George W. Bush’s Weapons of Mass...

covertactionmagazine.com

Why post nonesense?

 

[LouC]

The tweet refers to The Guardian, a left-wing outlet which reported on the number of bombs dropped by the Drone King. If it's a lie, then what's the correct number of bombs dropped?

I never said the LINKED Article in the Tweet was a lie, just the persons text in the Tweet is the lie.

Sorry for not being more clear before.

 

[LouC]

TEST

 

[ralfy]

Why post nonesense?

Because it's not nonsense.