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How a Papa Johns pizza surge near the Pentagon tipped off social media before Trump's decisive Iran strike

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Believe it or not, this is how intel is done.

I was in Naval Intelligence some time back. We monitored certain frequencies known to be used, not by the generals, but by their chauffers, as they would chat up their girlfriends while waiting for their boss to return from an important military meeting. They gave up tons of useful info during these calls.
 
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I recall way back before Nielsen Ratings. Networks would monitor water pressure in NYC from minute to minute. If thousands of toilets were being flushed in a surge, they could tell what channel was being watched because the surge and drop in water pressure corresponded to a station going to commercial.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
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Believe it or not, this is how intel is done.

I was in Naval Intelligence some time back. We monitored certain frequencies known to be used, not by the generals, but by their chauffers, as they would chat up their girlfriends while waiting for their boss to return from an important military meeting. They gave up tons of useful info during these calls.
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The main indicator were the B-2 bombers taking off and then re-fueling to full tank. Meaning they took off with full payload, even extreme payload by weight. Them having not switched off their transponders nor the re-fuelers switching off their transponders made it obvious to a large degree.

Moral of the story? Switch off you god damn transponders before you do anything like this. They only switched them off after the re-fueling.
 
The pizza / war connection has been publicly known for decades. The fact that they haven't figured out a way to cook their own ****ing pizzas without detection is unnerving.
 
Helix said:
The pizza / war connection has been publicly known for decades. The fact that they haven't figured out a way to cook their own ****ing pizzas without detection is unnerving.
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With the amount of money they blow they could easily have 24 hour in house pizza. Best yet it’s a security cost on the books.
 
TangoNoCash said:
With the amount of money they blow they could easily have 24 hour in house pizza. Best yet it’s a security cost on the books.
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You know, I'll eat Papa John's without bitching when someone else invites me to whatever and orders it, but honestly, I'd probably choose gas station pizza over that. There are about eleventy kajillion sources for pizza in this country, including frozen.
 
Helix said:
The pizza / war connection has been publicly known for decades. The fact that they haven't figured out a way to cook their own ****ing pizzas without detection is unnerving.
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I tried making pizzas a few times, and while I've never enjoyed a Papa John's pizza, it is much better both in taste and for morale.

MAGA.
 
I'm glad our operational security is air tight. Shouldn't this crap be spotted by our counterintelligence operatives? Everyone knew when the bombers took off and every pizza delivery boy knew when the strike was coming. I'm not happy.
 
BitterPill said:
I tried making pizzas a few times, and while I've never enjoyed a Papa John's pizza, it is much better both in taste and for morale.

MAGA.
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I generally use premade crusts. However, my family is pickier than shit about pizza, so I haven't made one of my own in years.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
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Believe it or not, this is how intel is done.

I was in Naval Intelligence some time back. We monitored certain frequencies known to be used, not by the generals, but by their chauffers, as they would chat up their girlfriends while waiting for their boss to return from an important military meeting. They gave up tons of useful info during these calls.
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Did you use the ICOM IC-R9000 receiver? I always wanted to buy one but they were extremely expensive and later they were banned in the US because they could monitor the cell phone frequencies.
 
Lou Malnati’s is the best pizza in the country and I will stand by that until my dying breath.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I'm Italian. Live in NY... There's a dozen mom and pop pizza places all around me.. I gladly pay extra for their pizza instead of the crap pizza franchises, pizza hut, Dominos, Papa John's, etc...
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Same here in Jersey. Lots of Italian mom and pop pizza shops. They're the best. If my only choices are Dominoes, Papa Johns, or Little Caesar's, I'm not eating pizza that day.
 
Some are say'n...

..... ..... Can't say who...

..... ..... ..... ..... But some...

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... That for faster delivery they just include be pizza guy in their SnapChat.

WW
 
Loulit01 said:
Same here in Jersey. Lots of Italian mom and pop pizza shops. They're the best. If my only choices are Dominoes, Papa Johns, or Little Caesar's, I'm not eating pizza that day.
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Little Caesars is the worst pizza I ever had.. Had it once at a friend of mines kid's birthday party.. I took 2 bites, gave the rest to their dog... Lol
 
Stealers Wheel said:
I recall way back before Nielsen Ratings. Networks would monitor water pressure in NYC from minute to minute. If thousands of toilets were being flushed in a surge, they could tell what channel was being watched because the surge and drop in water pressure corresponded to a station going to commercial.
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I think that was a hoax.

I recall a similar one with a football game, where they said water pressure dropped during commercials.

I've had civic engineers try to explain to me why that can't happen....but...
 
JohnRawls said:
The main indicator were the B-2 bombers taking off and then re-fueling to full tank. Meaning they took off with full payload, even extreme payload by weight. Them having not switched off their transponders nor the re-fuelers switching off their transponders made it obvious to a large degree.

Moral of the story? Switch off you god damn transponders before you do anything like this. They only switched them off after the re-fueling.
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With so much OSINT these days, it's really hard to pull off an operation like this without catching someone's attention.
 
Fearandloathing said:
I think that was a hoax.

I recall a similar one with a football game, where they said water pressure dropped during commercials.

I've had civic engineers try to explain to me why that can't happen....but...
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In the UK it was a surge in electric usage as people turned their kettles on to make a nice cup of tea during commercials.
 
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