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Your constitution is only as powerful and as weak as the citizens of your country allow it to be. If the President, and the congress, agree that attacking Syria or any other country is a preemptive or defensive strike to protect the US, who's going to challenge that decision? Are you or someone else going to take the government to court? Do you think the Supreme Court would overrule congress and the President when it comes to national defense?
In my view, the only time that happens is if the President and congress disagreed.
Your constitution is only as powerful and as weak as the citizens of your country allow it to be. If the President, and the congress, agree that attacking Syria or any other country is a preemptive or defensive strike to protect the US, who's going to challenge that decision? Are you or someone else going to take the government to court? Do you think the Supreme Court would overrule congress and the President when it comes to national defense?
In my view, the only time that happens is if the President and congress disagreed.
Sometimes I am envious of your parliamentary system.
House Speaker John Boehner will support strike on Syria
You know, I have long said that it does not matter what Obama wants, the GOP will obstruct. I mean, as I have said many times before, Obama could find the cure for cancer or stop world hunger and the GOP would filibuster. That's what they do. The party of "No." The do-nothing bunch. Those partisan hacks with such a hatred for the black Obama, they can't think or see straight. Their hatred for him is stronger than their love for country, as we have seen so many times.
I have come to expect that. In fact, on this issue, attacking Syria, I was hoping the GOP would hold their course and go against Obama's desire to attack Syria.
But noooooooooooo........
On this, they will support him. I guess their hate for Obama does not overcome their love for war. What was I thinking in the first place? The GOP say "No," to a war? No way.
Not to worry as the antithesis is also applicable. If the GOP says 'go to war' Obama will do the opposite and...do nothing.
...which is what he wants ultimately.
I guess their hate for Obama does not overcome their love for war. What was I thinking in the first place? The GOP say "No," to a war? No way.
It wouldn't be like them to support the highly unfavorable war as they know later on in time it will be fully owned by Obama. That would just make 2016 like taking candy from a baby.
Partisan First.
Back pockets Second.
American people Third.
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OK, it's good that Boehner, along with Cantor, are putting aside differences to back Obama on this............. But do we really need to do this? That is the question. Whatever intel Obama showed Boehner, it evidently persuaded him. However, Obama needs to persuade the American people, and keeping the reasons secret from the American people is not going to cut it.
Obama, show the American people what you have. We demand it.
It wouldn't be like them to support the highly unfavorable war as they know later on in time it will be fully owned by Obama. That would just make 2016 like taking candy from a baby.
Partisan First.
Back pockets Second.
American people Third.
I wouldn't be so sure that Boehner was persuaded by evidence. Wouldn't be surprised if Obama offered him a few political carrots in the coming political battles to sweeten the deal. Can't believe Boehner is going along with this.
Boehner is a monkey humping a football...I am surprised that he wasn't shown asking Obama's permission to agree.
Not to worry as the antithesis is also applicable. If the GOP says 'go to war' Obama will do the opposite and...do nothing.
...which is what he wants ultimately.
Thats just the goofiest of positions. Some support it, some dont. thats shockingly similar to the vote tally of...gasp...the democrats in congress (and BTW...on this site as well). But...all you can see is "the republicans" vs Obama. And you think THEY are deranged.You know, I have long said that it does not matter what Obama wants, the GOP will obstruct. I mean, as I have said many times before, Obama could find the cure for cancer or stop world hunger and the GOP would filibuster. That's what they do. The party of "No." The do-nothing bunch. Those partisan hacks with such a hatred for the black Obama, they can't think or see straight. Their hatred for him is stronger than their love for country, as we have seen so many times.
I have come to expect that. In fact, on this issue, attacking Syria, I was hoping the GOP would hold their course and go against Obama's desire to attack Syria.
But noooooooooooo........
On this, they will support him. I guess their hate for Obama does not overcome their love for war. What was I thinking in the first place? The GOP say "No," to a war? No way.
Thats just the goofiest of positions. Some support it, some dont. thats shockingly similar to the vote tally of...gasp...the democrats in congress (and BTW...on this site as well). But...all you can see is "the republicans" vs Obama. And you think THEY are deranged.
Like I said in an earlier post. Methinks Obama knows exactly what he's doing on this and we are all being played like a fiddle. He's acting all bad-ass like he wants to blow Syria off the map. But it's all an act. This way, he can avoid the war, put it to the people, (as if congress actually represented the people,) and come out looking like a hero, unlike his predecessors who rushed head-on into a middle east quagmire.
original statement stands. There have been plenty of news reports on democrats and their votes and positions on Syria. Yet all you can see is teh eeeevil republicans and their opposition to Obama.All we can see is what we've been shown. And we surely have been shown that the Republicans vs. Obama at every turn, regardless. Except, of course, when there might be a good ol' war available, but I digress.
Knowing this, I think Obama is playing it (them,) to the hilt. We will see.
original statement stands. There have been plenty of news reports on democrats and their votes and positions on Syria. Yet all you can see is teh eeeevil republicans and their opposition to Obama.
Do YOU support an attack on Syria? To what end? Do you support the Arab funded war discussed by Kerry or the 75,000 US troops required to secure chemical weapons depots? Do you support the rebels in Syria? If so...does that make you just another neocon republican war monger? If not is it just because you hate Obama because he is black?
You REALLY cant see how stupid your position is?
What is it do you suppose my position is? And are you REALLY saying that you are focusing on the republicans vs Obama situation without even knowing YOUR OWN position?Well, I CAN see how stupid your position is. Maybe I will look at mine a bit closer. Of course, you wouldn't even consider doing the same. That's what makes me the wiser person here Vance.
Like I said in an earlier post. Methinks Obama knows exactly what he's doing on this and we are all being played like a fiddle. He's acting all bad-ass like he wants to blow Syria off the map. But it's all an act. This way, he can avoid the war, put it to the people, (as if congress actually represented the people,) and come out looking like a hero, unlike his predecessors who rushed head-on into a middle east quagmire.
What is it do you suppose my position is? And are you REALLY saying that you are focusing on the republicans vs Obama situation without even knowing YOUR OWN position?
Oh yes. You REEK of 'wisdom'....
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